"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Christian Troy

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Have any of you ever used the strategy of LJBFing a girl you are interested in?

Now I have never used this on a girl I was actually interested in....but there are several women who I have done this too after I could tell they were attracted, and it seems like they were all over me after that.

There was one case where I got a chicks number and told her I wasn't really into dating anyone right now because of several reasons, one being I had just gotten out of a LTR...but told her I would hang with her as friends....I went out to eat with her (her idea) and totally wasn't looking to get with this chick (HB 6.5), totally played her like a friend all night, didn't open the door for her when i picked her up...just basically acted like I was out with one of the fellas...well I go to drop her off...next thing I know she jumps the center console and is in my lap making out with me...ahaha.

So, has anyone ever tried this before with success?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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MikeYikes122

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Christian Troy said:
Have any of you ever used the strategy of LJBFing a girl you are interested in?

Now I have never used this on a girl I was actually interested in....but there are several women who I have done this too after I could tell they were attracted, and it seems like they were all over me after that.

There was one case where I got a chicks number and told her I wasn't really into dating anyone right now because of several reasons, one being I had just gotten out of a LTR...but told her I would hang with her as friends....I went out to eat with her (her idea) and totally wasn't looking to get with this chick (HB 6.5), totally played her like a friend all night, didn't open the door for her when i picked her up...just basically acted like I was out with one of the fellas...well I go to drop her off...next thing I know she jumps the center console and is in my lap making out with me...ahaha.

So, has anyone ever tried this before with success?
Yes! That's interesting you bring this up because when I was still kind of an AFC four or five years ago, I accidently used this on a girl I was dating/hooking up with.

The story is kind of funny. My roommate was a huge stalker and somehow he stumbled across her online journal (don't ask me why people use full names to register online journals.) Anyway, we excitedly sat down to read it and found that there wasn't much flattering info in it about me. Instead, she was talking about some other guy who she was semi-dating behind my back. I was crushed over it for a while because I was still kind of an AFC, but I came back to my senses and realized I had to LJBF her. She was really taken aback and put off by my request.

Of course, I didn't treat her like a friend. I came back and started reading stuff on the Don Juan forums and realized I should just cut her out of my life and forget about her altogether, which was exactly what I did. I would ignore her invitations to come over for parties, and I would barely say hey to her when I saw her.

When all this happened, she still had two years of college left and I had three. So naturally we ran into each other a lot over the remaining years, and a few times when I saw her out at bars and such. There were a couple of nights I could have taken her home easily for a hook-up, and really to be honest with I don't know why I didn't. I guess it was just the principle of the whole thing.

So the answer to your question, I think is, yes. This will work, or that's my experience at least.

I think it fulfills a simple theory. Girls are just going to want what they can't have, and when you're the one doing the LJBF routine, you're telling her she can't have you.
 

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Christian Troy said:
totally played her like a friend all night, didn't open the door for her when i picked her up...
I don't open the car door for any chick. Does that make me an ass hole?
 

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STR8UP said:
I don't open the car door for any chick. Does that make me an ass hole?
i dont open the car door either.

although i will open building doors.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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^ I think it's a bit old fashioned.

I wouldn't do it unless she is wearing old-fashioned lady-like clothing: evening dress and heels. That clothing is made to render physical exertion impossible.

As for escorting her about, that is a safety issue: the streets are LESS safe now than they were in the 19th century, so traveling in groups is more important now then ever.
 

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As for the door thing...you shouldn't go out of your way. It just screams "I'm trying to impress you!"

Both my cars have keyless entry so it isn't like I'm making her wait out in the cold, dangerous world. If you're approaching the car from her side, no big deal. Otherwise i wouldn't do it.

With buildings it's the same thing. Most of the time I will reach the door first, but if she gets there first I'm not going to jump in front of her and say "here, let me get that for you".

Just do what seems natural.
 
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