Here's my theory. If a guy is dealing with mixed messages (doesn't know whether the girl is into him or not) the strategy instead of all this kino, c+f stuff, is to just LJBF her straight up once this stuff happens. This should let you know where her mind is. I mean, that is unless you like playing all these games. Has anyone tried this? I feel this is like one of those overlooked strategies that can get you out of the mind games before they get too far.
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LJBF as the ultimate DJ technique
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Bungo Pony
Master Don Juan
This is David Deangelo's technique - well actually he uses the LJBF line right from the beginning.
The thing is, if you build up your game enough, you won't have much of a problem reading her because she'll make it very clear that she likes you.
I usually took another route - if I got LJBF'ed, I'd make the girl social proof and use her to land other women. Eventually your social proof may come around and ask you out.
The thing is, if you build up your game enough, you won't have much of a problem reading her because she'll make it very clear that she likes you.
I usually took another route - if I got LJBF'ed, I'd make the girl social proof and use her to land other women. Eventually your social proof may come around and ask you out.
BungoPony, we always seem to see eye to eye. Anyways, I agree about the social proof. Who is David DeAngelo anyways? I need to contact him about stealing my idea 
Anyways, I think it's always stronger to just LJBF a girl from the start before she even has a chance to do it to you. The one doing the LJBFing always maintains somewhat of a more dominant position for the rest of the time the relationship is on, whether you stay friends or not. I think it takes balls to do it though, since most people here are so afraid of being in the "friends" zone, but in the end, they're the ones getting LJBF'ed, which puts them in a much worse position than if they had done the LJBFing.
Anyways, I think it's always stronger to just LJBF a girl from the start before she even has a chance to do it to you. The one doing the LJBFing always maintains somewhat of a more dominant position for the rest of the time the relationship is on, whether you stay friends or not. I think it takes balls to do it though, since most people here are so afraid of being in the "friends" zone, but in the end, they're the ones getting LJBF'ed, which puts them in a much worse position than if they had done the LJBFing.
I also use the "friends" line from the very beginning. And I sincerely mean it. I love being friends with girls. The sexual part, to me, is VERY over-rated. If you have one or two girls that will sex you well, then the rest of the girls you meet can just be friends for as long as you'd like them to be.
I usually say something along the lines of this early in the conversation:
"You seem really fun, I think this is the start of a great friendship (DeAngelo). I love it when I find somebody I can connect with, and know I'm going to enjoy sharing time with. I like you."
If they wanted to be more then friends by this time they would say something like "Uhhhh, well you don't want to be MORE than that?" and you could respond with "Well I like to let relationships just happen. Whatever happens, happens. There is no pressure, and the possibilities are endless".
This works very well as long as she is attracted to begin with. That is important and a part that DeAngelo doesn't state in his book. The LJBF technique won't MAKE her attracted to you, she has to do that on her own. It just demonstrates that you don't NEED her. Have fun.
-Blitz
I usually say something along the lines of this early in the conversation:
"You seem really fun, I think this is the start of a great friendship (DeAngelo). I love it when I find somebody I can connect with, and know I'm going to enjoy sharing time with. I like you."
If they wanted to be more then friends by this time they would say something like "Uhhhh, well you don't want to be MORE than that?" and you could respond with "Well I like to let relationships just happen. Whatever happens, happens. There is no pressure, and the possibilities are endless".
This works very well as long as she is attracted to begin with. That is important and a part that DeAngelo doesn't state in his book. The LJBF technique won't MAKE her attracted to you, she has to do that on her own. It just demonstrates that you don't NEED her. Have fun.
-Blitz
Bungo Pony
Master Don Juan
David Deangelo sends out a free newsletter at http://www.doubleyourdating.com - they're actually pretty good, but personally I wouldn't waste any money on his products (I already have).
I've never tried the LJBF technique since I never really needed to.
I've never tried the LJBF technique since I never really needed to.
AlwaysExcel
Senior Don Juan
I just LBJFed HBHispanic from my past FRs the other night. I had focused too much on attraction and not enough on rapport with her. Plus her ex/current/whatever-BF provided her with more real negative drama than I was willing to. She flaked on me for a third time and I acted annoyed but not passionately angry. I LBJFed her and told her that I didn't want to provide the drama she craved. She tried to protest that she was dedicated to her work and wasn't flaking. I told her not to interupt me and kept going. She hung up on me! Lol! I wrote her a short e-mail saying that she was rude and that I had liked her but I wasn't down with negative drama. I haven't heard from her since. It was an interesting experiment. I doubt I'll ever hear from her but we'll see. Whatever.
So that's my first experience with LBJFing a flake. I usually just stop calling instead of LBJFing but I wanted see what would happen if I changed it up.
So that's my first experience with LBJFing a flake. I usually just stop calling instead of LBJFing but I wanted see what would happen if I changed it up.
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if you are getting mixed signals
or you seem to be turning into a friend (and don;t want to be) make a definative move
you will likely crash and burn
but it is better than months of being a cuddle*****
or you seem to be turning into a friend (and don;t want to be) make a definative move
you will likely crash and burn
but it is better than months of being a cuddle*****