"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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chatzy is back up
phyzzle, maybe we can try it again another time. im sorry that the site was down when you cleared your schedule to be there.
 

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sunday 12-16-07 10 pm eastern or 8 pm mtn
topic : having a positive frame of mind
lead by : oakraiderz

everyone come .
 

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don't know who removed it but I'll sticky it again
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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as soon as sunday night chats topic is set for this week, i will update you guys. if anyone has any topic ideas, please let me know.
 

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the chat room will be open this evening, please stop in.
 

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Aboleo said:
So, why isn't there a link anywhere? A sosuave chat might be cool!
the link is on the first page of this thread, we all just kinda pop in and out catching each other except for the scheduled sunday night chats which are very interesting.
i will up date this link later this week with new topic schedules.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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penkitten said:
the link is on the first page of this thread, we all just kinda pop in and out catching each other except for the scheduled sunday night chats which are very interesting.
i will up date this link later this week with new topic schedules.

Yeah, I just couldn't get the link to work at first. I was on there for awhile right after you got off last nite.

Looking forward to Sunday (if I'm not working my ass off, anyways).
 

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this sunday nights chat session will be on the topic of a new bootcamp.
i would like to see as many new members that are in need of the bootcamp show up, and ready to suit up for it.
i would really like to see all members that have ever done a bootcamp as they can offer information on things that work and do not work.
we are looking to change up a few little details to make the bootcamp a better tool. if you have ideas, please come in to share with us.
i will take all the ideas and post them in a thread later so that our mature men of the forum can lay out something new.
once that is done, we will begin the new bootcamp .

we meet sunday night at 9 - 10 eastern time.

if you can not make it, but want to offer opinions and insight or concerns, please pm me.


*edit * people are in the chat room now , come chime in.
 
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tonights sunday night chat is supposed to be on the plate theory, however i did not round up that many whom are available tonight.... so come on in anyways, and we will just start topics as they come to your head and everyone can chime in...
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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We had a great discussion last night.
We had a lot of good people on.

And Penny said the world "Fvck!":eek: gasp! Imagine that! lil' ol Pennykitty!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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