Lights, camera.... emotion!!!

[Gonzalo]

Hello men. As an old timer and constant lurker of the forum, I'd like to share with you guys something which hit me pretty recently, plus would like to hear your opinions.

My introduction to the game was Doc Love and his ideas on Challenge. Pretty good concepts for a total newbie to grasp. Then I started reading the Bible, C&F, etc etc. And it went... well, *decent*. I noticed that I had no trouble approaching or opening a group, or even getting numbers. My problem was that once with the girl in isolation, there was "something" which I was missing to a large extent in order to get her feeling aroused. (It's not that it never happened, only that I couldn't do it consistently, because I didn't know how to trigger the things that make a woman become physically and mentally aroused).

I knew, however, that one can suscribe to the whole Alpha BS that is spread everywhere, and just "go" in for the kiss, as if rolling a dice... "did I come across alpha enough... or will she turn her head and leave me kissing her cheek...?". So it wasn't a thing of "going for it" that held me back... but rather "how do I make her WANT IT SO BAD, that she will be expecting me to go for it until her mouth is watering?".

Then I came across (hold your flame-guns) Ross Jeffries' SS. For those of you who haven't tried it, or who thing that reciting the freebie patterns you can find in asf will get you laid like a magic bullet... it's not like that at ALL! Anyways, he has enough marketing plug at his own site, so I just want to pose one of his ideas for discussion here:

He says, among other things, that women do things because they enter an emotional state, an altered state of consciousness if you will (analogous to the altered state an AFC enters when he comes acorss an HB). So now my question to you people who don't suscribe to SS is, how do you think "being a challenge" or C&F, etc, contribute to taking a woman out of the mind frame of "this guy wants to get into my pants... should I let him or not?", to some state where her emotions take care of her.

I'm not saying this altered state can only be achieved with X method. But I would like to know if this is something people think about, or if you are only worried about following a laundry list of steps which are supposedly to somehow magically make her appear naked next to you in the morning....

Discuss.

G

 

[tmpgstx]

Forget about methods and pick-up techniques. Most women are aware of them in the first place.

Either she likes you or she doesn't - simple as that. If she wants to take it further, she'll give off the vibes. Just look for them and take it to the next level.

If she's indecisive about it, doesn't hurt to be a little persistent either.

 

[Desdinova]

What I've always tried to do was get her so attracted that the first kiss was just automatic. Kino and c/f play a HUGE roll in this.

What I've discovered about c/f is that it helps take the woman on an emotional rollercoaster ride. She'll get an influx of many emotions hitting her in a short amount of time. Throw in a few "jerk" qualities, and she's feeling the excitement. Women gain excitement through their emotions. The more emotions they experience, the more exciting it becomes. It can't however be a constant run of negative emotions, it needs to be mostly positive, but a good chunk of negativity is needed. However, it can't be drastically negative. You're just merely touching on these emotions. If you tell her "Your zipper's undone", she looks, and then you tell her "damn, you're gullible", that's touching on her negative emotion.

It also has to be done playfully. You can't yell "YOU'RE A B1TCH" at her and expect her to like it. Tell her "You're a b1tch" while smiling and laughing. She'll experience the negative and positive emotion in waves. Turn that up a bit, and she'll be riding an intense rollercoaster. Throw in some kino; pat her head like a dog and say "good girl!" After it's all done, she'll consider you immensely exciting, and want to proceed further with you. You'll automatically get the kiss.

 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
What I've always tried to do was get her so attracted that the first kiss was just automatic. Kino and c/f play a HUGE roll in this.

What I've discovered about c/f is that it helps take the woman on an emotional rollercoaster ride. She'll get an influx of many emotions hitting her in a short amount of time. Throw in a few "jerk" qualities, and she's feeling the excitement. Women gain excitement through their emotions. The more emotions they experience, the more exciting it becomes. It can't however be a constant run of negative emotions, it needs to be mostly positive, but a good chunk of negativity is needed. However, it can't be drastically negative. You're just merely touching on these emotions. If you tell her "Your zipper's undone", she looks, and then you tell her "damn, you're gullible", that's touching on her negative emotion.

It also has to be done playfully. You can't yell "YOU'RE A B1TCH" at her and expect her to like it. Tell her "You're a b1tch" while smiling and laughing. She'll experience the negative and positive emotion in waves. Turn that up a bit, and she'll be riding an intense rollercoaster. Throw in some kino; pat her head like a dog and say "good girl!" After it's all done, she'll consider you immensely exciting, and want to proceed further with you. You'll automatically get the kiss.

Same time though, by saying "your zipper's undone" and then saying "made you look" that's completely positive, it creates a fun vibe.