"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Lifetime sex number goals for the average guy?

Zarky

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So I've been thinking about good goals for young men as far as sex numbers go.

Now, I'm sure that YOU have already personally slept with hundreds if not thousands of women and can pick up 9s at the club at the drop of a hat, but I'm talking about the AVERAGE guy.

Here's my breakdown for goals. The first number is the number of women, the second number is the age. Each one would get a badge (if attained) and would provide a goal for men to strive for at each stage of their lives.

5x20
20x30
40x40
75x50
100xdeath

That is to say, the average guy should strive to bang 5 girls by the age of 20, 20 girls by the age of 30, 40 girls by the age of 40, 75 by 50, and 100 over his lifetime.

This takes into account that getting laid is quite a bit tougher for the average guy when he's in his teens, and becomes easier and easier until he hits 50, and then tapers off again.

So between birth and age 20 he'd have to bang 5.
Between age 20 and 30 he'd have to bang 15 more (1.5 per year).
Between 30 and 40 he'd have to bang 20 more (2 per year).
Between 40 and 50 he'd have to bang 35 more (3.5 per year).
Between 50 and the time he croaks he'd have to bang 25 more.

These would also be cumulative, so if he's only banged 1 by the time he reaches 20, he'll have to bang 19 rather than 15 to get his 20x30 badge. etc. This would encourage men to get started quickly and continue striving throughout life.

This would have to be for an average guy in an urban environment. If you don't have 100 women within a 50 mile radius you're going to have trouble with this.

Realistic? Should be challenging yet not impossible for the AVERAGE guy in an urban environment in a major western civilized country.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I've never thought about it as a number thing.

The goal is to be at a level where you can get with a girl if you want to. Beyond that, who cares what you do with that skill?
 

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Numbers don't matter. I don't many of us need to set a goal to get into bed with a girl.. Boners tell us when to do that lol.
 

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Now consider this:

The average man, by his own account, sleeps with 7 women TOTAL in his lifetime.

15% of men report sleeping withmore than 15 women.

So if you reach 20...relax, you don't have to prove anything.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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handle said:
I've never thought about it as a number thing.

The goal is to be at a level where you can get with a girl if you want to. Beyond that, who cares what you do with that skill?
Exactly.

Alex DeLarge said:
Numbers don't matter. I don't many of us need to set a goal to get into bed with a girl.. Boners tell us when to do that lol.
Exactly.

5string said:
Quality over quantity.
Oh, and uh, exactly.

I've banged far more women than the average guy. But quite frankly, a lot of those girls I didn't need to bang. And probably shouldn't have.

I wouldn't go placing a number on my goal with women. It's about putting yourself in a position where you have options. It's not about f**king X-number of girls. That kind of mindset just might be dangerous.
 

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I'd never get a badge in my entire life. Oh well. I don't really want to sleep with a hundred women.
 

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Women are a sympton of a winning condition not the final goal, no different than the quantity of digits in your bank account or the cars you own.

I disagree about all this importance given to women and their number.
They are a reward you get when you are in the right status, not a destination that should influence the direction of your way.
 

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This is the wrong mindset. As if having sex with the most women possible is the goal of life. Even for the guys capable of having sex with lots of women/decent looking women and better, it'd be a pretty empty life just walking around wanting to "up your count."

This is a product of a "sex sells" society and Axe body spray commercials and light beer commercials that tell you "getting the girl" is what makes you a man, when it couldn't be further from the truth.

I myself would be happy if I slept with 1 or 2 women my entire life that I had intense physical attraction to.

Sometimes this site reminds me of the guys at the gym I go to that just walk around the free weight area with their ipod on and their shoulders crossed, and the funny thing is, they aren't even that muscular to begin with.
 

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Are all these responses from guys with low numbers? ;)

Maybe I'm posting this in the wrong forum.

The goal is to be at a level where you can get with a girl if you want to. Beyond that, who cares what you do with that skill?
"Get with a girl if you want to" is too nebulous. The only way to know if you could get with her is to do so. I sense a guy who doesn't follow through.

Numbers don't matter. I don't many of us need to set a goal to get into bed with a girl.. Boners tell us when to do that lol.
External goals are good, internal goals are sh!t.

Quality over quantity.
Absolutely disagree 100%. Women are fungible in my mind. That's like saying that you'd rather have good money than bad money. I'd rather have MORE money.

Then my next question would be, who here could claim any of the above badges? I'm going to guess nobody.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Zarky said:
So I've been thinking about good goals for young men as far as sex numbers go.

Now, I'm sure that YOU have already personally slept with hundreds if not thousands of women and can pick up 9s at the club at the drop of a hat, but I'm talking about the AVERAGE guy.

Here's my breakdown for goals. The first number is the number of women, the second number is the age. Each one would get a badge (if attained) and would provide a goal for men to strive for at each stage of their lives.

5x20
20x30
40x40
75x50
100xdeath

That is to say, the average guy should strive to bang 5 girls by the age of 20, 20 girls by the age of 30, 40 girls by the age of 40, 75 by 50, and 100 over his lifetime.

This takes into account that getting laid is quite a bit tougher for the average guy when he's in his teens, and becomes easier and easier until he hits 50, and then tapers off again.

So between birth and age 20 he'd have to bang 5.
Between age 20 and 30 he'd have to bang 15 more (1.5 per year).
Between 30 and 40 he'd have to bang 20 more (2 per year).
Between 40 and 50 he'd have to bang 35 more (3.5 per year).
Between 50 and the time he croaks he'd have to bang 25 more.

These would also be cumulative, so if he's only banged 1 by the time he reaches 20, he'll have to bang 19 rather than 15 to get his 20x30 badge. etc. This would encourage men to get started quickly and continue striving throughout life.

This would have to be for an average guy in an urban environment. If you don't have 100 women within a 50 mile radius you're going to have trouble with this.

Realistic? Should be challenging yet not impossible for the AVERAGE guy in an urban environment in a major western civilized country.
This is a very interesting breakdown. I'm not so sure if the average "non-gamer/seduction community" man would be able to do this. He would probably get stuck in an LTR or two along the way. So that would take away his potential time to bang those 2 girls per year in his 20s. Unless, of course he happens to be a player who doesn't cold approach(must have a hell of a social circle haha).
Keyword urban environment also. Don't get stuck in a rural location where almost all of the 7's and above are in LTR's.;) I like this layout though, what type of layout would you make for the average pick up artist/seduction/gaming enthusiast?
On a side note: I read your blog, can't wait for Part II and beyond.
 

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Obviously guys tend to sleep with more women in their youth then settle down, no average man sleeps with 25 women aged 40-50 because they're married
 

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Women are fungible to you? Do you enjoy the company of women?
 
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Lifetime sex number goals for the average man? Fortunately for me I am not an average man, I'm extraordinary man, and I decide my own goals and my own rules.

It was an interesting post though.
 

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"Between 40 and 50 he'd have to bang 35 more (3.5 per year).
Between 50 and the time he croaks he'd have to bang 25 more."

The "average man" usually gets married in his mid-30's, and banging 25 women after age 50 is probably unfeasible
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I was at 52 by 19 years old, 11 years ago. I remember it well because a girl (#54) broke up with me after she asked me. Said that was just ridiculous.


I'm not so sure about milestone goals now because i've lost track, but if it's under 30 a year, I get depressed.

I think it is possible for most guys to get to a level where 12 a year is reasonable. Twelve NEW girls a year.

Plus there is an added benefit: old girls you've had sex with come back around every few years, so you can theoretically coast once you reach a certain level, especially if you are good at networking and keeping in touch with people.

I've been the anti-relationship type, so I don't have big blocks of monogamy dragging down my numbers.
 
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