"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Life should not be this hard (for the socially unadjusted)

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Right, so you're socially normal, you chat her up and whatnot, get her number, but they always put up resistance and flakiness to meeting up because they knoW what's going to happen. Yet there's nothing wrong with you, you socialise fine. That's why this site will always exist.

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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Simply amazing. Great job :)
 

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de silva said:
That's really what virtually everyone on this board does. They are hit with a realization regarding their specific situation, and the next thing you know, they are writing long, rambling posts which they market as the answer to everybody's problems.
Yeah, but then these rants help some random guy, like myself, realize his faults, and he has a big "ah ha!" moment.
 
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GQ_Confidence_1 said:
When you haven't socialized for awhile or had friends, it's very easy to slip into this pattern of thinking..."but there's something wrong with me."

I'm a "nice guy". I'm this. I'm that. I'm ___.

You silently go through life thinking...but there's just something the matter with me. I shouldn't have this behavior. I'm doing something wrong.

Some of you guys are disqualifying yourself from the game of life with this horrible self image. You don't follow through as a result. You don't ask girls out. You don't go for the kino, you don't go for the kiss.

I would bet that most guys on here felt "normal" to some extent as kids. You had birthday parties, you played with your friends outside. There was nothing "wrong" or the matter. None of you guys were on the internet at age 10, 11, 12 debating all this stuff. You're out doing stuff automatically; for me, that's where I wanted to get back to.

The less you think about it, the better off you'll be. I've socialized more in the last year, than in the last 5 years combined. Once you get in the rhythm of it, you realize...what's the big deal?

God, I'm just a spitting image of this. It's scary how right you are dude. I think what's worse though is most of us have been doing this, this routine, for years.

I know I used to think like you mentioned when I was a kid. I couldn't care less and loved life and everyone in it. I was so happy no one could bring me down, and it showed! I had girls all over me, guys wanting to be friends. It just feels like you can go about your day and people will literally do everything for you, do all the work you need done to accomplish your goals, cater to you, etc.

Of course when you're up this high, the fall tends to be long and hard. I went through this once I started dating, and found out I was an afc. This really got my head in a million different places, I began to constantly doubt myself, I became very self-conscious, I wanted the old me back so badly I tried everything. And you know what? Trying to be my old self never felt so unnatural.

The thought of forgetting how to have fun is just incredibly depressing, as I always used to look at people like myself now and think "Damn, I never want to be in that guys shoes."

This really sheds light on EXACTLY what has happened to me over the past years. If we ever meet in life man, I owe you a beer. Hell, a keg. I just hope I can stop being an afc in relationships now.
 

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I actually like socializing very much but I lose interest in most people after talking and meeting them a few times. The rare individual who makes it past my short attention span and is able to connect with me usually ends up as one of my few friends.

At this point, the ideal social life I see is one where I can hang out with a completely different group of people every month. I enjoy talking and connecting with many people even at a superficial level on a regular basis rather than settling into a clique of friends.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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