"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Let's Define Success with Women

Dongfu

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There are many different definitions of success with women. Some might say success means, "I can approach and close any woman I want."

Others might think of success in terms of numbers. "If I bang X amount of women this month then I'm a success."

Or it could be a matter of performance. "If I give her the best orgasm she's ever had, then I'm a success."

My definition of success is a little different. Here's how I see it.

If you didn't have the balls to approach a girl yesterday, but today you did, then you are a success.

If you have never been able to get a girl to give you her number, and you finally got one, then you succeeded. Even if you didn't close the deal, you still
accomplished 1 step.

If you met a girl that you would normally bang once or twice, and you decided to not bother this time, you succeeded in mastering self control.

For me, success isn't just about sleeping with a lot of women, it is about making progress, no matter how small, towards getting your overall game tight.

Would it be better to sleep with 20 women in a month because you could, or to be able to target just one who was a more incredible experience than the 20 put together?

A true DJ isn't concerned with getting every woman that he can. He knows he can score when he wants to, but he may have just as much fun doing something else.

And with that attitude he never fails.:)
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Good Cat

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Success in any endeavor definitely has to do with personal appeal. I agree that success to one person may not be to another.

Images of success can be very misleading because most people don't really understand it like they think they do. To be successful with women means being universally successful in life. If your image of success is to bang 20 chicks a year then you might very well reach that goal but it may not be the image you initially dreamed of when set out to reach it. You might find that you're new cold-hearted nature makes it impossible for you to land a real relationship that leads to more than just sex and issues. Success should be balanced with your life because if you reach your image of success and you are not happy then you are not successful.
I guess what I'm saying is that it depends on each person's unique perspective after reaching their goal. If you feel good after completing each step in the process of becoming a DJ then yes you are successful in each endeavor.
 

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Definition of success with people (including girls) - "How many personal and human connections did I make? Did I make friends today and acted like myself instead of a social robot?" If I answer yes to these, than I consider myself a success. If the answer is no, than I look for ways to improve myself.

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IMHO, You can pretty clearly sort the people on this forum into two categories. 1) PUA and 2) those with LTR as their goal.

IMHO, being able to go to a club and come home with whichever woman took you up on your offer for sex puts you in category 1 and doesn't impress me.

Being able to PICK a girl of YOUR choosing out of a group and seduce her regardless of how much resistance you encounter puts you in group 2 and is far more suave and DJ-ish than those who belong to group 1.

But that's just my opinion.
 

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I think success with woman is having complete and full control of the women part of your life.. whatever you choose to be may be. rather it be LTR, fvck buddies, PUA's.... having the ability do successfuly do wahtever you choose.
Not being at the whem of a woman. having options. that's what success is.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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