"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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There is all types of races and opinions on this website. Yet at some point way before the "anything else" section, we all chose to come under the umbrella of being men who would learn to conquer women and to understand and stay away from women games.

This racism and bickering like females needs to stop.

I admit I played my role in it but I am done, I am only here now to give my advice and take advice about the betterment of being a man, and the interest of hobbies etc.

So I'm throwing up my flag on this one, and want to come under the brotherhood that we all had with each other before all this begin. Who is with me?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I've been with this notion. I don't get how we can't state our differences and just have a rational, normal, logical conversation laying out all of the points, stances, etc.?

Do you really know how far we could have gone with these political, social and cultural debates if we just kept it civil and professional? So you disagree with the other guy, how about you lay out why you disagree with research, data and facts backing it up. Eventually if the other guy can't prove his point, then guess what...MAYBE you could have just convinced him to change his mind on his positions?

That's what the point of a solid debate should be about. We have our disagreement, I bring my theory/data/research, you bring your theory/data/research, and we decompose each other's side to the bare bottom bone. Once you get to that bare bottom bone you will get to the TRUTH of the matter. Whomever stands closer to that TRUTH, should be labeled the winner and the other guy who didn't stand close to that TRUTH, now can clearly see the TRUTH and adjust his stances.

I was trying (almost begging) for you guys to see this but you kept going on and on about how gay someone was, how racist someone was, etc., etc. All that insane stuff does is cause the threads to be closed.

And quite frankly, you guys are TOO DAMN old to be doing high school insults like that. I would just sit back reading the screen like, "Look at this immature crap here."

You had grown men using gay jokes to respond to someone's debate stances. Even if the other guy WAS gay, it had literally nothing to do with the argument nor the topic and quite frankly, unless you planned on SLEEPING with the guy, why in the hell do you care what his sexuality is?
 

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Tenacity said:
I've been with this notion. I don't get how we can't state our differences and just have a rational, normal, logical conversation laying out all of the points, stances, etc.?

Do you really know how far we could have gone with these political, social and cultural debates if we just kept it civil and professional? So you disagree with the other guy, how about you lay out why you disagree with research, data and facts backing it up. Eventually if the other guy can't prove his point, then guess what...MAYBE you could have just convinced him to change his mind on his positions?

That's what the point of a solid debate should be about. We have our disagreement, I bring my theory/data/research, you bring your theory/data/research, and we decompose each other's side to the bare bottom bone. Once you get to that bare bottom bone you will get to the TRUTH of the matter. Whomever stands closer to that TRUTH, should be labeled the winner and the other guy who didn't stand close to that TRUTH, now can clearly see the TRUTH and adjust his stances.

I was trying (almost begging) for you guys to see this but you kept going on and on about how gay someone was, how racist someone was, etc., etc. All that insane stuff does is cause the threads to be closed.

And quite frankly, you guys are TOO DAMN old to be doing high school insults like that. I would just sit back reading the screen like, "Look at this immature crap here."

You had grown men using gay jokes to respond to someone's debate stances. Even if the other guy WAS gay, it had literally nothing to do with the argument nor the topic and quite frankly, unless you planned on SLEEPING with the guy, why in the hell do you care what his sexuality is?
Only one side automatically jumps into the insults/emotions/etc. Tenacity. I'm sure I've been guilty of it later on in a debate (that has delved into an argument), but the right-leaning side of all this more often that not does NOT start the flaming. So in that vein, not a chance in h*ll I'm going to just chalk it all up to immaturity or whatever. One side IS right, and one side just WANTS to be right, and we have thousands of years of history/facts to back that up. I mean, look at Fatal Jay, I called him out for being 100% incorrect in the other thread, now he wants a truce. F*ck that, that guy has already shown his true character.

However, I will agree to quit talking about it. But it's not like we have a choice, if you continue the racial/political stuff you'll be banned. Pretty simple.
 

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This street has always run both ways.

The funny thing is, I don't think that anyone can produce one sentence of one post of mine that deals with race or ethnicity.

I'm good.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Cool, then just unban tits and let the mods know that Jaylan and Amoka should no longer be allowed to post and we'll call it a truce because in the end it was YOUR immaturity that started all of this.
 

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Cool, then just unban tits and let the mods know that Jaylan and Amoka should no longer be allowed to post and we'll call it a truce because in the end it was YOUR immaturity that started all of this.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I know the mods will say they are busy with their lives, that this is insignificant, yada yada, but life is all about the small things.

This forum took a big hit the last couple of weeks.
 

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90% of all race and homosexuality-related flame wars are instigated by one particular poster (we all know who he is). For reasons that have never been made clear, the mods refuse to ban him. We must therefore ignore his provocations.
 

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well whenever we see a race baiting type thread, simple ignore or let the mods handle it
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Agree 100%.

We have some intelligent guys on here with some good stuff to share. It's a shame to let some troll or borderline troll threads divide everybody. As mentioned above, those type of threads MUST be ignored from now on.
 

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He must know Allen personally... maybe its Allen's wife or maybe its Allen himself just trolling the users into posting back. I can't think of a single reason that Allen would appoint a bunch of teenagers and a cross dresser to run a forum for MEN. We see WyldFyre, Iqqi and now Jaylan... and they seem to come on every couple of years just as the last user gets herself banned and the forum threads start to die out. Everyone needs a villian, how does it feel, you are the most hated user on the forum. Out of everyone I speak to offline, the Roosh forum users, and several MGTOW site regs, everyone knows who you are.
 

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^Notice how quiet the AE is with Stagger and Tits gone? You keep crying about me and ignore the fact that Stagger never ever created threads outside of the Anything Else forum...and he never gave advice in the main DJ forum. All he ever did was create bait threads himself.

So spare me your bias in labeling who is and isnt a troll. The mods have spoken, and I followed the rules. The people who ignored the rules over time got themselves banned. How hard is it to follow a directive when the forum leadership issues it?

Instead of trying to blame anyone else for why people got banned, blame the posters themselves for being incapable of letting things go. The mods have been very VERY lenient on this website. I cannot understand how people do not see that. Its time to just move on and promote a better atmosphere. Just like you guys got over the banning of PHM, youll get over the recent bannings as well.

That all said, I agree with the OP.
 

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Jaylan you are a very sick individual, its such a shame that the mods have let you stay while banning the others. I can only conclude that the mods themselves are friends of yours or influenced by the same things that motivate you to be who you are.
 

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Jaylan said:
^Notice how quiet the AE is with Stagger and Tits gone? You keep crying about me and ignore the fact that Stagger never ever created threads outside of the Anything Else forum...and he never gave advice in the main DJ forum. All he ever did was create bait threads himself.

So spare me your bias in labeling who is and isnt a troll. The mods have spoken, and I followed the rules. The people who ignored the rules over time got themselves banned. How hard is it to follow a directive when the forum leadership issues it?

Instead of trying to blame anyone else for why people got banned, blame the posters themselves for being incapable of letting things go. The mods have been very VERY lenient on this website. I cannot understand how people do not see that. Its time to just move on and promote a better atmosphere. Just like you guys got over the banning of PHM, youll get over the recent bannings as well.

That all said, I agree with the OP.
Not sure which point address, the fact that you attacking two users which are banned and cannot defend themselves, showing cowardy at a N degree.

Or the obviosut fact that the "peace" existing here comes from the fact that no one (except you since apparently you have a out of jail gold card) knows if he is going to be banned for a post after a ban carnage.

You surely have some problem even from the fact that you manage to attempt to sabotoage a thread in which both sides are doing their best to recognized their faults and fix the problem.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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It's quiet here because no one is starting threads like this:

1. Georgie Z shot in the face (minor injuries)
2. How many shoes do you own, and whats your favorite kind of shoe?
3. "Police racism may have compromised 3000 San Francisco cases, officials say"
4. Ireland may become the first nation to legalize gay marriage by popular referendum
5. Cop quits after tasing and pepper spraying man having a stroke
6. Anti-gay State Rep. Randy Boehning caught sending penis pics on gay dating app
7. Kennesaw State University Student Accused of Harassment for Sitting in a Waiting Room
8. Newly released video of the final moments of soldier killed by police
9. Supreme Court Hearing Gay Marriage Argument
10. South Carolina officer charged with murder after shooting man in the back
11. Clearly the first amendment doesnt mean squat to some cops
12. Bakery Did Not Discriminate By Refusing To Bake Anti-Gay Cakes, Court Rules
13. Suspected horse theif brutally beaten. 10 deputies suspended.
14. Bostom bomber guilty. Death penalty or no?
15. Ted Cruz for President!

This thread was conciliatory, until you posted Gaylan/FatalGay.
 
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Jaylan said:
I followed the rules.
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Says the homophobic, sexist, bigoted racist. Gimme a break.
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Stagger, youre a fvking idiot.
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Read my fvking post. I said just that in both of my previous posts.
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Good ole red herring. Get the cop c0ck out of your mouth old man. This thread is about the misbehavior of the public servants we hold to a higher standard. You must not think much of cops if you first reaction is to try to sidetrack attention onto what common criminals do.
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Says the parasitic leech who trolls online and makes no contributions to society lol. No wealth, no meaningful career, leeches off others, yet complains about how other people use the government? L oH fvking L
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reason I ever mentioned Africa because he decided to talk about feral hogs and Africa. Read the fvking thread properly next time and get the context right before trying to come at me. And we all know why the race troll mentioned Africa
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^D!k riding f@iry alert. Man, its a damn shame how much time you spend on this forum worrying about what I post.
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Lmao. I cant decide if some of you are hilariously ignorant, or just pathetically unable to read with comprehension.
 

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LiveFreeX said:
Jaylan you are a very sick individual, its such a shame that the mods have let you stay while banning the others. I can only conclude that the mods themselves are friends of yours or influenced by the same things that motivate you to be who you are.
This was a great thread until this ^^^^. Do you want banned too?
 

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Ok, I've had enough.. Thread closed. OP, it was a good thought, kudos for that.
 
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