Let yourself be seduced!

[djbr]

Okay guys. I think I've sucked information enough from this board, now it's time for me to share some insights.
(I'm not fluent in English, get used to it).

Being a man is being seduced, seducing is women's job.

But you won't agree with me. You keep throwing DJ stuff at her for free, trying to make an impression. You think about every word you would say, every action you take. You pretend you don’t care, but it’s there, in your mind, blinking frenetically: don’t let it go! All of us know it may work. You may do SS and get some asses, but, think a second about it: WTF? What’s the meaning of that??

It’s meaningless! You’re doing what you’re NOT supposed to do. WOMEN ARE THE ONE WHO HAS TO SEDUCE YOU!

You see a girl you like, you go for her. This is like saying: “hey, you’re hot. Now show me what you got!” And THAT’S IT. Now it’s her job, what she has to offer for YOU? She is the one who has to prove her value. Not the other way around.

Why do you think you have to prove her anything? You’re learning DJ stuff. Also, you’re improving your entire life: doing the things you want, changing your habits, becoming more aware of your man desires. You’re ready to give it to the girls out there. FOR FREE? NO WAY! She has to be special! She has to prove she’s worth your effort!! Why work so hard for achieving improvements and find yourself in a situation where you have to prove you DO have some value? Besides, women can smell your value, it’s their nature. Let they do their job. Let them SEDUCE YOU! Let her show her cards, what she can give to you. Don’t give it all to them like it means nothing to you, cause you’re working REALLY HARD on it!!! Your DJ skills!! Your precious time improving yourself! They ought to know they found GOLD when they see you, because you know, there are many chumps and jerks out there, but true DJ material is really scarce!!!

But you may think: “why she OUGHT TO like me like this? I’ve done nothing for her!” No no. Wrong. When you go for her, saying HI, talking about anything and getting the number (or showing her that you want to see her again), you’re showing MANY MANY things to her.You’re a man. You take charge. You want her and you want her to know. We all know that is something that most males just don’t do. They want the girl to come to them. Passive, and passive = screwed. Also, you’re showing many things through your appearance, and women are BEST on catching these things. We aren’t, and that’s why we are the ones who have to be seduced: we want her to show why we are supposed to stick with her! We are the ones who can't get it out of nowhere. They just can.

Let’s focus on action and let females do their job: seduce!


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I had enough exes to show me that my attitude was completely screwed, and these guys showed me the way. Now I'm walking through it...

 

[Omega]

Hang the bait and wait for the fish to bite.

 

[BGMan]

I'd like to read more of what you have to say. Actually, I think a mod should move this to Tips.

BGMan

 

[LikerOfWomen]

Hang the bait and wait for the fish to bite.

I don't think you're allowed to hang the bait in public in most countries...

 

[strong like bull]

agreed; id love to read more.

out of curiousity though, where do you stop letting her do all the work, and start giving back?

as an example, im in a relationship at the moment with a very compassionate and giving woman. from the get go (a couple months ago) and still today, she buys me food, drinks, cooks for me, gives me massages and everything else i could ask for. she does this, and the only thing she (normally) gets in return is my company, affection, intimacy, etc. shes never tried to bull**** me, flake on me, get me to buy her things, or anything of that nature.

at the beginning, she knew that shed have to do what you say, and seduce me, treat me like a king, etc. and she came through and proved herself. every so often, knowing that shes been doing her part, i give back. as an example, i gave her a music CD that had a bunch of her favorite songs, of all time. she had never told me what she wanted or liked specifically, but i made mental notes of what she really liked over the time we hung out together. the cd was inexpensive, but it came from the heart and i put a lot of effort into it.

she loved it. but as i ask, in your opinion, when do you think its okay to start giving back? its in my personality to share, protect and provide for those close to me; especially in the case of a girl who offers me the loyalty, intimacy, compassion and comfort i look for. but sometimes i have a hard time waiting for the girl to prove herself before i give back.

thanks in advance.

-SLB

 

[Kelson]

It is vital that a DJ have the mindset that the chick needs to work on being worthy of their interest and company. However, if I just go stand around and don't show a chick that I am well worth the effort of trying to get me interested, they aren't going to waste the time. Now, quite a few are willing to make the moves on me once I'm demonstrated that I'm worthwhile, but stepping back for a moment...if I'm so great and worthwhile for a Chick A without trying...why would I bother with her instead of just going for Chick B who might need a bit more work with a bit more payoff? I can pick up an 8 no problem, but to get a 10 (not just physically...) requires some actual interest. Not to mention, I enjoy the game

Kelson

 

[eecumstains]

i have my doubts on this one

 

[Caveman]

Most females won't go further in seducing then giving you some EC. That's how they show their interest.

I know this from many girls I have talked to. After they had given me some EC and after which I approached them, I would ask them if they would have approached me if I hadn't done anything. Most replied they would have thought it was too bad but they wouldn't have approached me. Most girls are still oldfashioned that way.

 

[djbr]

I agree with Anti-Dump. When a girl approaches you, it's because she is not "intimidated" by you. That means, DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. I agree 100% with this. I had some past BAD (man, I DO MEAN REALLY BAD!) relationships which started like this. Girls don't approach me anymore. And, as I'm improving day after day (thanks SoSuave), I just think I'm becoming really good material .

Don't forget: YOU ARE SHOWING THAT YOU ARE WORTHY. Women SMELL it. You go for her, and she starts "scanning". Men do NO GOOD doing this, that's why she has to prove herself.

You ask me when you start giving back. I say you're giving back since the start. You're listening to her. You're doing fun dates. All of this entertain you, but she's being entertained too! Otherwise, she wouldn't come around anymore! If things keep going YOUR WAY, you know you have a good girl around!! AND SHE LIKES IT. Because if she didn't, she would have disappeared like FAST! Said NO to you. Changed dates. Disrespected you. And that's why i say let her seduce you. You've improved yourself and now you're worthy. She can see it, that's why she goes out with you WITHOUT YOU TRYING TO PROVE HER ANYTHING. Also, this explain WHY she isn't supposed to come around the first time, you're good material. She fears you, think you have tons of girls (and you DO! ). Girls are meant to be passive, and if they aren't, you ought to smell trouble. This way, you're not powerful enough to intimidate her. She now thinks she can get the control. That doesn't mean that you've got to be a control-freak. You just have to expect some respect, and girls who think they have the control will not respect you. They think they have the right to do anything she wants with you, just because you do everything she wants. But don't worry, a good girl will do it all good.

The point is: Relax. Let it flow. I see some guys here trying to make the big hit with women. Then can't see it's just too simple. Improve yourself. Then you see a girl, a beautiful one, WOW MAN THERE IT IS! You go there, you make a move. If she likes you, SHE is the one who will try to catch you! Then it's your job to decide if YOU DO WANT TO CATCH HER. If you want ONS or just some kicks, do it!! If you're a member of the LTR team, keep going, don't close too fast because you have to check for her persistance.

What? Persistance? Yes... you want it long-term. If you close too soon, you're not checking if she wants long term too (remember, they prefer anything to nothing). Also, you're missing the opportunity to see possible flaws on her.

Some personal experience: I had this friend, she lives in another town. She came to my town to visit her parents, and we met at a show. I ASKED FOR HER NUMBER. I CALLED THE OTHER DAY (remember, I WAS NOT AWARE OF ANY DJ STUFF!) and said: I pick you up at 7:30pm. My mother had just gone to another town, so I was home alone. Guess what? I took her to the SUPERMARKET (I don't know if you say like this in english) to buy some food for me. Then, we went to my house, and I started to interview her, I was curious about she living in another town (she used to live here, and we had some classes together). She talked like hell and then.... WOW!!!!

Think about it. Even at the beginning, she was throwing her ******** at me (hey dude, there's many guys who want to go out with me!). I was just not giving a crap, and did what I NEEDED (yeah, I needed to go buy some food, I was starving!) and she was along for the ride. She had to come back at 12:00am. Oops... she just left at 3:00am. I focused on what I wanted to do and she came along, happy! And without me trying to say or do anything AMAZING.

Questions welcome. I'm new on all of this, trying to put things together here.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

you are right on many levles but wrong on other levles. you are right you do not have to try and prove yourself, and yes the girl should be doing that, ALWAYS. BUt you said how you should do nothing and let the girl approch, well obviously you have not had enough practice with girls you see frequently but do not talk to, because many of these will give you positive signs even make themselves approchable for you, but they will not approch you, you have to approch them everythinm, sure you must not chase you must not look desprate but you must still approch them again and again and a again.

 

[djbr]

Sorry guys. Maybe it's my crappy english.

But I just didn't say this. I said you DO have to approach. And I said that WHEN GIRLS APPROACH, TROUBLE COMES.

Read again. If there's anything that doesn't sound clear, PM me. I'm learning this language also

 

[Omega]

He's basically saying that the initial approach is your job, along with setting up a date, but after that it's her job to prove herself to you.

 

[Jariel]

Bump!

Really good advice!

 

[Holland]

Edit:
Ow I see where you're coming from. I think a lot of people will missinterpret this advice, but anyway, their loss.

 

[DrMetallica]

Originally posted by LikerOfWomen
I don't think you're allowed to hang the bait in public in most countries...

OMG LOL!!! LMAO!!!