"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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let my gf go with another guy to buy her clothes. bad idea?

Raikojo17

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so my gf's ex bf(of about 5 years ago) is tryin to get back with her. little does he know that she already got a bf (me). he offered to take her to the mall and buy her clothes so that she might change her mind about him. she really doesnt like him and wants nothing to do with him, but the free clothes is too tempting. to her suprise i really had no problem with her going with him to buy clothes, she could use some new ones. who wouldnt take free stuff right. she says after this she wont talk to him anymore cuz she feels bad because she goin with another guy.

I dont have a problem with her goin, i just told her not to do anything with him. she says she doesnt even want to hug him, but she knows he'll go for it. this guys a major AFC whom she states is a horrible bf, that's why she broke up with him.
do you guys think this was a good move on my part?
 

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She should not even be considering going with this other guy out of respect for you, free clothes or not.

Also the fact that she'd take advantage of him in such a way is pretty pathetic and speaks a LOT about the type of person she is.

And she never even told this guy shes with you!? - guess you REALLY mean a lot to her...

I'm betting she does still like this guy, shes making excuses to you, and shes happy to meet him again to see what he can 'offer'.

Next her...
 

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so she really doesn't like the guy but will see him for money, hmm.... ask her how much would she charge me for a date, thanks.
 

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Monkey, let me clarify

we just got together like 2 days ago and made it official that we are bf and gf.

this guy offered to buy her clothes before hand, and she asked me if she should still go. i said go ahead, she could use some new clothes

we decided she shouldnt tell him because if he knew she wouldnt get anything from him,lol.

i know this man is gonna be making moves on my girl, i trust her. but i dont know if i trust the situation
 

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She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

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you should anonymously email this chump the Book of Pook and tell your girl to quit scamming losers for their money
 

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nosmirk said:
lol

in all seriousness, I'm a guy that likes to shop.. if I had a real female friend that I had no sexual interest in, and she wanted to tag along.. i don't see the problem
 

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she seems like a really classy broad, doesnt it make you wonder what she really thinks about you?
 

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No one's questioning the fact what this woman is capable of if she goes out with an ex for free gifts? Yep, your girl has tons of integrity.
 

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lol,

this is pathetic that you would even consider letting her go with the guy.. what is even more pathetic is that she would USE him for free clothes.. oh and btw, nothing in life is free...

just remember that, once u let somebody pay for you, you are in debt to that person.. that is why when me and my friends go out for lunch, i'll always insist on covering my own portion..
 

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sav said:
lol,

this is pathetic that you would even consider letting her go with the guy.. what is even more pathetic is that she would USE him for free clothes.. oh and btw, nothing in life is free...

just remember that, once u let somebody pay for you, you are in debt to that person.. that is why when me and my friends go out for lunch, i'll always insist on covering my own portion..
interesting.

i'm starting to reconsider my notion. i think i might tell her no
 

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backbreaker said:
lol

in all seriousness, I'm a guy that likes to shop.. if I had a real female friend that I had no sexual interest in, and she wanted to tag along.. i don't see the problem
i agree.

but the problem is that he DOES have sexual interest in my gf. like all her other ex's tryin to talk to her again.

he's doing this so that she by chance might like himm again. she already told him no, but he insisted on taking her to the mall to buy her clothes so that she might "change" her mind.

she might not be the one to blame tho. im the one who told her to go, just for the free clothes. she's not sure because like sav said, if he buys her stuff then she's stuck with him. plus she said she doesnt want people seeing her with other dudes.

i'm thinking of telling her it's not such a good idea.
 

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oh I didn't catch that.... she isn't just going to watch him shop, she is going so he can buy her clothes?

man you need to be slapped
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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backbreaker said:
oh I didn't catch that.... she isn't just going to watch him shop, she is going so he can buy her clothes?

man you need to be slapped
lol yea. im really second guessing right now

before i was thinking if he offered to buy her clothes, why not take it? but now i know he's gonna be trying to put major moves on her, and try to make her feel obligated to return something to him.
 

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ok problem solved lol:D

she's not going with him. she said she doesnt want to see him. she wants to see me tho lol

she said she feels bad about doing it because if he bought her a bunch of clothes then she would have to "pay him back", and she knows what he would want. so she denied him.

thanks guys. i wont be making the same mistake again.
 

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Or perhaps not so much problem solved...she now knows she can push the boundaries with you and get away with a lot in the relationship.

I expect to see you here with more problems later on - in a way either intentionally or un-intentionally she tested you, and you may or may not have got away with this one. In the end it is a good result for you, but only because girls hate owing men debts did she cancel on him- that much is true.

It should have raised major ALARM bells when she was maybe wanting to meet up with her EX of 5 years - if they stay friends its going to cause you one major headache. I have been there.

If she has never cheated on a BF, your prolly OK. if she has a history of cheating, your in trouble, and it sounds like she might have...

be the man and keep an eye on her behaviour. good luck !
 

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i would not have let my gf of 2.5 years do this unless he was gay. if he was not, and she suggested it, i would be surprised that my gf had suddenly turned into a manipulative, grasping wh0re.
 

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she said she feels bad about doing it because if he bought her a bunch of clothes then she would have to "pay him back", and she knows what he would want.

o-o-oh man, i just read that. that is so fvcked up that she even thought of that. HERPES!
 

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