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Lessons learned from real world DJ'ing experiences (must read)

Guitar_Whizz

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Since finding this site earlier this year, I have learned an awful lot. I learned a lot by reading this site each day, as well as other sites and ebooks on seduction, but I have also been out into the real world to field test ideas. I have had succeses, but I've also made a lot of mistakes, and I have decided to write a post on what lessons I can learn from them. This will help me organise things in my head a bit more clearly as well as be of use to some of you other developing DJ's out there. So here goes (in no particular order).

1. OPPORTUNITIES TO PICK UP GIRLS
I realised I would miss so many opportunities to approach girls. I would make some excuse to myself as to why I shouldn't approach, that I'd wait until a 'better' opportunity came along. I guess I was hoping that the 'perfect' opportunity would arise and then I'd be able to approach no problem. But the perfect opportunity never came. (By 'perfect' I mean all the right signals from her, nobody else around watching, girl who isn't in a group or with friends, etc...all lame excuses).
Lesson learned: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY, ONLY LOTS OF CHANCES TO MEET GIRLS THAT YOU MUST GRAB IMMEDIATELY AND TURN THEM INTO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU.

2. INNER CONFIDENCE
I would often go out to practice my approaches, and I'd be all pumped up, confident and ready for action, then I'd miss several opportunites (as I mentioned above) and my mindset would go downhill. I'd then get mad at myself, fear/panic would set in and I'd kind of 'outpsyche' myself. I'd then not feel confident enough to do any approaches. I have now learned my lesson: WHEN YOU GO OUT TO PICK UP GIRLS, YOU MUST GET THE BALL ROLLING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE...DON'T CHICKEN OUT ON THE FIRST FEW OPPORTUNITIES AND HOPE THAT YOU'LL APPROACH WHEN YOU FEEL BETTER...NO NO NO, YOU MUST START APPROACHING IMMEDIATELY, SO THAT NEGATIVE THOUGHTS DO NOT TAKE OVER, AND YOU WILL FEEL FINE AFTER THE FIRST APPROACH OR 2.

3. HESITATION
Part 2 above is linked to hesitation, but I've also found that if I hesitate, the girl goes away and then I am left wondering what might have happened if I had approached. So the lesson learned here is: WHENEVER YOU SEE YOUR OPPORTUNITY, DON'T WAIT, APPROACH AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OTHERWISE SHE WILL BE GONE FOREVER....

4. FEELING LIKE YOU ARE OUT OF PLACE OR EVERYONE IS WATCHING YOU
Have you ever been out picking up girls, and felt that all eyes were on you or something similiar? Well let me tell you, I have too. And it feels awful. I am not talking about lack of confidence to approach girls here, I'm talking about simply feeling ill at ease in the place you're in because you know you've gone out specifically to do pickups. Well, I have often felt like this, but then I thought to myself, 'do I look at other people on the street/in the bar etc and think 'he/she looks/appears ill at ease or out of place'?? The answer is 'No!!'. I couldn't care less what others think/feel because I am concerned with MYSELF. Therefore, others do not care or notice you're 'ill at easeness' because it is simply ALL IN YOUR MIND.
Lesson learned: DON'T WORRY ABOUT THESE SORT OF FEELINGS....NOBODY IS WATCHING YOU OR ANYTHING, NOBODY CARES SO JUST DO YOUR APPROACHES. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING WRONG, THIS IS THE MOST NATURAL THING IN THE WORLD AND YOU ARE ABOVE ALL THE AVERAGE GUYS OUT THERE WHO ARE LIVING IN THEIR COMFORT ZONES. THIS BAD FEELING IS ALL IN THE MIND.

5. FEAR/COMFORT ZONES/CHANGE
I would go out a lot and I would subconsciously be thinking 'why is this so difficult' or 'why is it so hard to push through fear'. I have realised that EVERYBODY lives in their own 'comfort zone', which is determined from past programming. To do something outside of your comfort zone, eg approaching a girl and starting a conversation, involves PUSHING THROUGH THE FEAR BARRIER. Lesson learned: IN ORDER TO CHANGE, YOU MUST TRY NEW THINGS...THINGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE, AND IN ORDER TO PUSH OUTSIDE YOUR COMFORT ZONE YOU MUST PUSH THROUGH THE FEAR BARRIER. ONLY THEN WILL YOUR COMFORT ZONE EXPAND AND YOU CAN CONQUER THAT FEAR. WHAT YOU USED TO FEAR WILL NOW BE WITHIN YOUR COMFORT ZONE AND YOU WILL NO LONGER FEAR IT.

6. CONVICTION
No, I'm not talking about criminal convictions here! I'm talking about doing everything with regards to seduction with conviction (ie giving 100% AT ALL TIMES, not doing it half heartedly). A lot of the times I've approached girls, the nerves would be flying all round my body and I'd kind of hesitate in conversation, not do enough eye contact, or hold back my ****y and funny etc. I guess it's kind of like dipping your hand into something you're not sure about, eg water that is quite hot...you dip your hand in cautiously, then maybe pull it back, but then you realise the water isn't that hot so you eventually dip your hand in without worrying. Seduction is kind of similar, you don't know how the girl will react, and your nerves and fear are kicking in, so you kind of 'dip in' cautiously. But this will only backfire, because you will come across as less confident, and therefore less of a man, and your chances with her will diminish. So the lesson this time is: EVEN IF YOU ARE NERVOUS (AND WE ALL ARE TO BEGIN WITH!), JUST DIG IN AND GIVE 100% TO EVERY PICK UP YOU DO. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE OUTCOME, JUST CONCENTRATE ON GIVING EVERYTHING TO THIS SEDUCTION AND THEN WHATEVER HAPPENS YOU KNOW YOU HAVE DONE YOUR PART AND IF SHE REJECTS YOU THEN TOO BAD FOR HER. SO DO EVERYTHING WITH CONVICTION, NOT HALF HEARTEDLY.

Hope this post has been useful. I may do a Part 2 when I learn more from my real world experiences.



[This message has been edited by Guitar_Whizz (edited 12-10-2002).]
 

Turbobird

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Really motivating post Guitar_Whizz. Keep up the good work!

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I really like this post. I think everyone should get familiar with it. You never know when an opportunity will come buy. Knowing the contents of this post will allow you to take that opportnity and gain experience.

Props, Guitar_Whizz.
 

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Youre my new hero. Im loving the post.
 

aznbreakerjrey

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OMG, you are mos def a carbon copy DJ-to-be of myself lol. I fully understand where you're coming from ... Quality post
 

The Dominated1

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I saw the 5 star rating and decided to have a look.

I was not expecting to read something worthy of a 5 star, but was proved wrong.

This is a great post.

The part about "no perfect opportunity" really hit home. I have been working on this aspect of DJing and I almost asked a girl for her number in front of 5 friends (2 male 3 female) but chickened out at the last moment.

I would have much prefered to ask for it while nobody was watching but the "perfect opportunity" didn't come.
 

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Wow ... after reading your post, and the other one on confidence by De La Soul ... I realized that the only one that's been keeping me from achieving what I want was myself, not fate, not God, not bad luck, not any of those sorry ass excuses. I've been wanting to approach girls in the pool hall for some time now, just that i kept chickening out every time. But today before I played I just thought, "Fuk it, I'mma be a man today and take charge. I'm an outgoing, self-confident man, especially around girls." So that was part 1 and 2 checked off from your post.

Parts three, four, 5, n 6 came when this girl came in w/ this chick came in with the same exact poolstick that I had. My friend told me, and the words, "Watch John try to hit on her," had barely come out of his mouth before I approached lol. I had actually walked up to her w/o thinking for once and stroke up a convo about our sticks. Then her bf came, but it was all cool lol. Later I went up to this girl and she actually hinted at me to chill sometime, so I naturally got her number and shiz. I didn't feel too uncomfortable, pretended everything was natural, and all went well.

In summary, I came to win, and did. It's all in the mindset and your willingness to follow through.
 

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Great post man. Ill remember all you told me.
 
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