Lesbians more Alpha then Us?

[SmooveMooves]

I noticed an increase homosexuality. Someone I spoke with about the matter said that it's not an increase, it's just more acceptable now, so that's why It's seen more.

I'm not sure I agree with that, I swear there's way more Lesbians than ever before. Same for the Dykes. Its kind of like it's cool or a trend or some sh1t.

Maybe this is only exclusive where I Live. (In the North)

However I was curious to know you guys' thoughts on the matter.


If women are attracted to "Alpha" or "Masculine" behavior, how are these Lesbian Women maintaining relationships?

-How does that ugly lesbian chick always manage to get that pretty ass GF. While guys on SS here complain it's looks?

-Do these chicks have game or some sh1t?

-Are these chicks presenting Alpha traits?

-And if they are wouldnt that just make said chick attracted to men?

-Or are these chicks just attracted to Femininity?

- And why is being gay seen as some sort of trend or something?

Note: Nothing against gays, just wanted to discuss.

Note2: Was thinking about this after I realized my cousin with 2 kids, suddenly turned gay, and has maintained a relationship with a girl for 3 years.

Note3: Shes a real girly girl, and her GF is just about as man as me, minus the d1ck & balls & Toned chest.

 

[mangotot]

With lesbian couples, there is always one who is masculine and dominant. They look and behave more alpha then the average beta male, from what I have seen.

 

[jurry]

Have you seen ellen degeneres' girl? Dangg..

 

[zekko]

I noticed a increase homosexuality. Someone I talked to said that it's not an increase, it's just more acceptable now, so that's why I see it more.

That's definitely the biggest part of it, but it's also clear that gays have been successful at recruiting. Which means the whole "you're born with it" business is false.

Regarding the lesbians, I don't know that much about them. But I would assume that being women, the alpha ones can probably get away with more "AFC lapses". Weak behavior in men is repulsive, but the lesbians probably have a lot more room for error.

 

[AttackFormation]

That's definitely the biggest part of it, but it's also clear that gays have been successful at recruiting. Which means the whole "you're born with it" business is false.

It certainly is false. Look at societies like ancient Greek warrior cultures where men were basically indoctrinated to be homosexual except for procreation.

 

[IBreatheSpears]

It certainly is false. Look at societies like ancient Greek warrior cultures where men were basically indoctrinated to be homosexual except for procreation.

Indoctrinated? Something being considered normal isn't indoctrination. No-one forced Greek and Roman men to engage in homosexual behaviour, it happened because it was considered normal in their society (or, rather, it was considered normal because it happened).

Besides that, since when are gays "recruiting"?

A gay person is just someone who is attracted to their own gender. There's no conspiracy behind it, that's just how some people are.

Btw it's considered possible for your orientation to change; the "born with it" thing is not the scientific consensus any more, though it's still accepted that there's a genetic basis. Look into epigenetics if you want to know how something with a genetic basis can change according to environment. For a simple example, E. coli has a gene that codes for an enzyme which can digest lactose, and the gene is only activated when a lactose molecule binds to E. coli's DNA at a specific place, so it doesn't produce lactase enzymes when there isn't any lactose around.

 

[christoff522]

Indoctrinated? Something being considered normal isn't indoctrination. No-one forced Greek and Roman men to engage in homosexual behaviour, it happened because it was considered normal in their society (or, rather, it was considered normal because it happened).

Besides that, since when are gays "recruiting"?

A gay person is just someone who is attracted to their own gender. There's no conspiracy behind it, that's just how some people are.

Btw it's considered possible for your orientation to change; the "born with it" thing is not the scientific consensus any more, though it's still accepted that there's a genetic basis. Look into epigenetics if you want to know how something with a genetic basis can change according to environment. For a simple example, E. coli has a gene that codes for an enzyme which can digest lactose, and the gene is only activated when a lactose molecule binds to E. coli's DNA at a specific place, so it doesn't produce lactase enzymes when there isn't any lactose around.

You do realise that homosexuality would have died out hundreds of thousands of years ago right? Any homosexual animal would be unable to reproduce and thus the 'genetic' trait would have died out.

The only possible way homosexuality could exist is if it was a developed psychological trait caused by external factors. To say that orientation can change like the wind just shows how its an indoctrinated/learned behaviour - Most likely caused by feminism and/or abuse.

 

[Bible_Belt]

With lesbian couples, there is always one who is masculine and dominant.

Gay male couples are that way, too.

Remember the recent research that said men who do more housework get less sex from their wives? It didn't apply to gay couples, presumably because they have well-defined roles in the relationship.

For straight relationships, having well-defined gender roles is the way to make the relationship succeed, but recently it's hard to find a woman who is happy being a woman, instead of trying to be a man. Feminism stands in violent opposition to even the idea of such a thing as a gender role.

 

[IBreatheSpears]

You do realise that homosexuality would have died out hundreds of thousands of years ago right?

No, because that's wrong for several reasons:

1. Natural selection isn't the only mechanism of evolution. Another mechanism is called genetic drift and it's when an allele (a "version" of a gene) becomes more prevalent in a population (which is the definition of evolution) due to random chance e.g. more people have blue eyes than green even though there's no functional difference. Another is sexual selection which has to do with what's found attractive rather than what helps you survive, such as a male peaco­ck's plumage, which is actually a disadvantage because it makes the peaco­ck more visible to predators, but it evolved because female peac­ocks found it attractive.

2. Just because a person has a gene for a trait, doesn't mean they have the trait. Look at haemophilia. Haemophilia is caused by a defective gene on the X chromosome. Women can only get haemophilia if they inherit a defective copy of that gene from both parents because they have two X chromosomes; if they have one defective copy and one working one, they will be "carriers" and not affected by the disorder (this means it's a recessive trait). Men, on the other hand, only have one X chromosome, and the Y chromosome doesn't contain a copy of the haemophilia gene, so if a man inherits the defective version from his mother, he will definitely get haemophilia.

3. Traits are usually not caused by a single gene. Let's take eye colour for example; a common misconception is that if two blue-eyed parents have a brown-eyed child, the woman must have cheated: the allele for brown eye colour is dominant over blue, so if either parent had that allele they would have brown eyes too. In reality there are at least six different genes that contribute to eye colour. If each blue-eyed parent has one gene for brown eyes and five genes for blue eyes, and you need at least two brown-eyes genes to have brown eyes, and the child gets one from each parent, then the child will have brown eyes even when its parents and grandparents all have blue eyes. Similarly, if a man's parents and grandparents are all straight, but he happens to get enough "gay genes" from each parent, he might still be gay. Further, he could also have straight siblings.

4. "Gay genes" might work differently in men and women. It's proposed that a gene that makes men gay could make women hyperfertile, while the gene that makes women gay could make men hyperfertile. Combine this with #2 and the fact that siblings share about 50% of their DNA and it makes a lot of sense. If two siblings, a man and a woman, both inherit the same gene which makes both of them more feminine, then the woman will likely reproduce more and pass that gene on. Her son or grandson or great-grandson might get the gene too, and as a result he might be gay.

5. Gay people are not infertile, they can still reproduce. I know at least one gay guy who had sex with a woman because he couldn't find another gay man and was getting desperate, and there was an article on Cracked a couple of years ago about famous, openly-gay men who had had sex with dozens of women.

6. It's also proposed that a gay man would help look after his parents' other children and his siblings' children instead of his own, and if his siblings carry (but aren't affected by) gay genes, then that gene would be passed on even though the man has no children of his own.

The only possible way homosexuality could exist is if it was a developed psychological trait caused by external factors

Did you bother to look into epigenetics like I suggested? There's no reason to think it has to be one or the other. In most cases, it's not "nature or nurture" but nature and nurture interacting. Epigenetics is the study of that interaction. Look at the example I posted with E. coli: it always has the gene to digest lactose, but most of the time the gene is inactive. It only becomes active under specific circumstances. So a man with genes for homosexuality might still be straight if those genes are deactivated by the environment. If something in his environment caused them to become active, then he could "become" homosexual.

 

[MtnMan]

Two things:
1) I do think that there are more gay people. I think this may be a natural population response to the overcrowding of our species.

2) I know a lesbian couple where the 'guy' lesbo is super red-pill in her treatment of her woman. The 'girl' lesbo is super cute and feminine and the 'guy' keeps her under control with a very strong frame.
I've wondered if the guy lesbo has read any red-pill stuff or if she is just a natural alpha. Honestly, this chick is more alpha than 99% of dudes I know in relationships.

 

[zekko]

Besides that, since when are gays "recruiting"?

They probably are not intentionally trying to recruit. But efforts by the media to be PC by portraying gay people as cool, interesting, smart, brave, and hip probably has that effect, to some extent.

 

[hudpes]

I can only answer the last OP's question: why homosexuality seems to be trending. It's because the World is taking it's clothes off, liberating itself from repression of any kind, we all have equal rights and we should be all treated equally. The process is obviously not yet finished, because much like racism, it's still debated alot. It will be a happy day when there will be no more gay pride parades, no more talking about homosexual marriages, or racism.. when those subjects will become so boring and silly to talk about you will know they've become fully accepted.


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, AFAIK in ancient Greece homosexuality was not normal. What was normal was for a man to have a male lover, besides his wife.

Also, some sources claim that homosexuality is a genetic predisposition, someone's predisposition could be more easily damped than others', so I suppose now that is not an issue anymore and there are more apparent homosexuals. I'm pretty sure I can easily spot a gay dude, now you're going to tell me his sexual desire for same sex has nothing to do with how they walk, talk and behave <- this is a function of the brain, so parts of the brain must be different. What some suggest is that those certain parts of the brain have always been different, even before puberty, regardless of the surroundings, family, toys they played with...

 

[IBreatheSpears]

@hudpes
Basically, genes are not 100% deterministic. If you're interested in the hows and whys, read up about epigenetics.

 

[dasein]

Homosexuality is trending due to being the latest of the left's faux victim groups, and so plastered throughout the gov-edu-MSM complex. Rest assured, if gays tended to vote politically right wing, we'd hear nothing but scorn for them and their lifestyles from the complex.

One glaring inconsistency is that the left has been working to tear down marriage as an institution, and the male role in it, for 50+ years. The effort has been utterly successful. Then, once gays want to marry, marriage becomes a "sacred human right" to be protected and fought for at all costs, even when it can't result in natural children. Can't make this stuff up. We live in bizarro world.

 

[SmooveMooves]

They probably are not intentionally trying to recruit. But efforts by the media to be PC by portraying gay people as cool, interesting, smart, brave, and hip probably has that effect, to some extent.

This is definetly something I agree with. It's seems as if instead of saying "Accept Gays we're all equal"

they're saying

"Be gay, Its awesome".

On another note, a poster brought up an interesting point. Maybe gender roles are more defined in homosexual relationships, and that's what results in their success.

But the way that America is pushing this "Were all the same, theres no diference in genders, gender blur." Nonsense.

It certainly makes it hard for a female to want to be fviking feminine in a relationship.

Dasein is right, we do live in Bizaro world.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I know at least one gay guy who had sex with a woman.

lol. I think most gay guys have had sex with women.

I knew a guy in high school who was a QB on the football team, wrestled, and fvcked pretty much all the hot girls in school. And now he lives with his boyfriend. He still doesn't act or sound the slightest bit gay. He works in construction. It's a small town, and rumors are that his bf lets him fvck all the women he wants. The bf is a typical fat, catty, feminine gay guy.

It sounds liberal of me to say I don't believe in labels. But I don't believe in liberal labels like "gay" either. They want you to think they are a united, homogenous group, so they seem more politically powerful, but it's an act.

 

[zekko]

This is definetly something I agree with. It's seems as if instead of saying "Accept Gays we're all equal"

they're saying "Be gay, Its awesome"..

Or maybe they're trying so hard to say "Accept gays, we're all equal". it comes out sounding like "Be gay, it's awesome".

On another note, a poster brought up an interesting point. Maybe gender roles are more defined in homosexual relationships, and that's what results in their success.

Interesting, that's almost the exact opposite of the theory I had upthread (where the alpha lesbian could get away with being less "manly" because she was female).

lol. I think most gay guys have had sex with women.

I know a loudly self proclaimed lesbian, two of her last three relationships have been with men, and she has a child with one of them. The lines do seem to blur.