Leftist education

[Who Dares Win]

http://news.yahoo.com/dad-furious-finding-crayon-written-paper-florida-4th-124614291.html

Dad Furious After Finding This Crayon-Written Paper in Florida 4th-Grader’s Backpack: ‘I Am Willing to Give Up Some of My Constitutional Rights…to Be Safer’

Not being educated is bad, but getting educated in the modern educational system apparently is even worse..

Thats what schools are about now, telling men how useless and evil they while at the same time making sure that nobody questions the authority or "except" to keep his rights.

How can you support to ban guns when this is usually whats going on in the system, beginning to kids education...people have to put in their own damn heads that not only rights have to be defended being them not god-given but also it wont lack people doing their best to try to take them away, in this case even indoctrinating children.

 

[Down Low]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,

[God, not you, and not other men, gave to you these rights, and only God, not you, and not other men, can take from you these rights.]

that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

 

[backseatjuan]

I take this education (dumbafication) as a move to take power away from people - i.e. get their guns and free speech.

It is surely blunt now, but it was present even during 80s.

Also it is not only schools they are targeting, every movie, every news show, every TV show has this agenda.

The only radio show you can listen to is Alex Jones show which does not have this agenda and is openly exposes these crimes.

The only movies you can watch that do not have this agenda is truth movies on youtube - Esoteric Agenda, Zeigest, 9/11 Inside Job, etc.


It is so good to know that you people know it. I used to be the only poster on this board under different names since 2008 exposing the truth and now all you know it too. I'm glad you have awaken.

 

[goundra]

Since no God exists, he can't have given you ANYTHING.. Rights come from being able to exert POWER against those who would take those rights. The THREAT of that power must be ever-present, or those who want to kill/enslave you WILL do so. It will just be a question of how long it takes them to do it, that's all. We all acknowledge that a monkey has the "right" to throw stones at the lion who is trying to reach the monkey in the tree. Well, we "monkeys' found a way to "throw rocks",. REALLY hard and straight, that's all guns are, really. We found a way to do it quietly, and a way to carry and conceal our "rock-thrower". So that both robbers and tyrants have no warning about when and from where they will be "rocked". Rock on, monkeys!

 

[Voice]

Since no God exists, he can't have given you ANYTHING.. Rights come from being able to exert POWER against those who would take those rights. The THREAT of that power must be ever-present, or those who want to kill/enslave you WILL do so. It will just be a question of how long it takes them to do it, that's all. We all acknowledge that a monkey has the "right" to throw stones at the lion who is trying to reach the monkey in the tree. Well, we "monkeys' found a way to "throw rocks",. REALLY hard and straight, that's all guns are, really. We found a way to do it quietly, and a way to carry and conceal our "rock-thrower". So that both robbers and tyrants have no warning about when and from where they will be "rocked". Rock on, monkeys!

Although I love your rock throwing analogy I would disagree with yours or anyone's attribution to 'the creator' in these documents being referred to as another name for God. There is no mention of God. 'The Creator' could be anything you attribute human beings being created by, whether it be a god or the universe itself. It simply states that we have inalienable rights when we are born. And inalienable rights certainly don't come from being able to exert power against anyone else. Your right to life and liberty has nothing to do with exerting power because they are natural rights.

 

[twentee]

there's nothing at ALL "unnatural" about being able to resist those who would prey upon you. I never said anything about any Creator, other than that no such thing exists (or ever did) You can insist on your rights all you want, you'll still be lead off to the concentration camps if you can't KILL enough of the statists to make them fear you.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Since no God exists, he can't have given you ANYTHING.

The people who want to take away your guns agree with you. Far right and far left are the same thing in practice.

 

[Voice]

twentee = goudra?

I'm not sure you know what a natural/inalienable right is. It does not come from force or power.

I'll say it again, in the Declaration it states that "The Creator" endows us with our rights. "The Creator" != "God". This is basic governement/political science 101. You don't have to believe in God to know we have all been "created". Whether you believe it was from God or by the universe itself it is irrelevant. We get our natural inalienable rights simply by existing as humans.

 

[White Boy]

That's some serious bologna

 

[twentee]

so what, dummy? Thats just a piece of paper. were their no "natural rights" BEFORE 1789? will the rights disappear if we amend the Constitution to nullify gun ownership? it's YOU who doesn't know where rights come from. u thinik that some piece of paper "created' them. I got a news flash for you. If i'm holding a dead man switch, in the middle of NYC in the middle of a work day, hooked to a REALLY dirty H bomb, I'm the "rightest' man who ever lived. If I want hillary bent over and spread, a team of Seals will have her in front of me within 2 hours, COUNT on it. Power IS necessary to have rights. power is not in and of itself bad. it's everyone's tendencey to ABUSE power that is bad. suppose, instead, i used that position to close all US mlitary bases all over the world, bring home all the troops, sink the Surface Navy, blow up all the ICBM'S, seal the southern border, kick out all the illegals, and pay for all the childless young women, in 3rd world, to be given $3000 each and sterilized, hmm? PRESTO, 10,000x as good a life for everyone.

 

[Voice]

so what, dummy? Thats just a piece of paper. were their no "natural rights" BEFORE 1789? will the rights disappear if we amend the Constitution to nullify gun ownership? it's YOU who doesn't know where rights come from. u thinik that some piece of paper "created' them. I got a news flash for you. If i'm holding a dead man switch, in the middle of NYC in the middle of a work day, hooked to a REALLY dirty H bomb, I'm the "rightest' man who ever lived. If I want hillary bent over and spread, a team of Seals will have her in front of me within 2 hours, COUNT on it. Power IS necessary to have rights. power is not in and of itself bad. it's everyone's tendencey to ABUSE power that is bad. suppose, instead, i used that position to close all US mlitary bases all over the world, bring home all the troops, sink the Surface Navy, blow up all the ICBM'S, seal the southern border, kick out all the illegals, and pay for all the childless young women, in 3rd world, to be given $3000 each and sterilized, hmm? PRESTO, 10,000x as good a life for everyone.

You're hopeless. First of all those quotes are not from the Constitution. They're from the Declaration of Independence which was written in 1776. Dummy. It simply proclaims that men have inalienable rights which have ALWAYS existed and Britain was infringing on them. You still don't seem to comprehend that.

Blah blah blah, people abuse power, blah blah blah, NO SHT. You don't magically obtain rights when you threaten to kill people. Rights are either natural or in a government given through a social contract. You may be endowed with more rights if you are in a position of power, but that is, again, merely through a social contract (at least in a democracy). People with the most power are the "rightest"? I've never heard that before, WTF does that even mean? You don't even have basic understanding of how the English language works. Did you go to college? Better yet, have you finished the 9th grade?

 

[Voice]

http://news.yahoo.com/dad-furious-finding-crayon-written-paper-florida-4th-124614291.html



Not being educated is bad, but getting educated in the modern educational system apparently is even worse..

Thats what schools are about now, telling men how useless and evil they while at the same time making sure that nobody questions the authority or "except" to keep his rights.

How can you support to ban guns when this is usually whats going on in the system, beginning to kids education...people have to put in their own damn heads that not only rights have to be defended being them not god-given but also it wont lack people doing their best to try to take them away, in this case even indoctrinating children.

Back on topic.

Yeah sure these kids are getting educated by a liberal nutbag. There are a bunch of conservative nutbags who teach creationism. Which is worse? One is pushing their own political agenda while the other one is preaching psuedoscience. Either one is pretty bad.

I'm more concerned that they don't teach kids to think for themselves. They don't teach critical thinking skills, nor do they teach skepticism. THAT is the big problem. Kids grow up in a bubble of thought and are never taught to question others or their own previous held beliefs. If they were taught these things, then it wouldn't matter that much what type of garbage is thrown at them, they would be able to critically think and figure things out for themselves.

 

[Voice]

The difference being, one is taught in schools and funded by your taxdollars, whereas the other is voluntary.

HUGE difference.

My tax dollars pay both of these teachers' salaries. Neither subject matter should be taught in schools.

 

[twentee]

The religious nutjobs WANT creationism taught in schools, tho. They have made that quite clear! The only rights that truly exist are the rights TAKEN/asserted with LETHAL FORCE. The TALK doesn't mean diddly if there's no force behind it. The rights-usurpers only understand ONE thing, and that's the fact that if they get killed, they have no power.

 

[Deep Dish]

Creationism isn't taught in schools as far as I know, so I don't see how your tax dollars can be paying for that. It's only in churches and at home where that is taught.

In a travesty, the state of Texas.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/texas-public-schools-teac_n_2568828.html

 

[Voice]

Creationism isn't taught in schools as far as I know, so I don't see how your tax dollars can be paying for that. It's only in churches and at home where that is taught.

This guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0fPDnjZpz0

 

[Atom Smasher]

It's really sad to see supposedly intelligent, rational men declaring with all certainty, "There is no God".

It is entirely illogical (and I must say, pathetically ignorant) to state this opinion as fact as you were NOT there during creation and you, being born in the 20th century, have NO CLUE as to whether there is a God or not.

In this thread, the man making the most sense is Danger. It is fair to be agnostic, to state that "I don't know if there is a God". It is also fair to state "I don't think there is a God". But to say, "I know there is no God" is absurd to the highest degree. This is UNKNOWABLE to you. We spend so much time here on SS calling women out on their lack of logic, and then we come to this subject and men declare that they know the demonstrably unknowable.

Men of faith believe with all their heart that there is a God, but they understand that God has set a requirement that He is only knowable by faith (His words, not mine) along with His scriptures that are literally dripping with prophecy that has been fulfilled.

God requires faith for those who are inclined to approach Him, but He recognizes that blind faith is worthless. That's why exposure to scripture is the very thing, in fact the ONLY thing (again, His words, not mine) that bestows this faith on us.

Let us never forget, too, that God is the one who has said to mankind, "Come, let us reason together". God requires faith, gives us the faith He requires (because we can't drum it up on our own), but He also values and appeals to our reason.

Men hold onto the painfully ridiculous logic of "I know there is no God" because they REVILE the though of answering to a higher moral authority. The very concept is so distasteful to them because man wants to be His own god. He wants to call the shots in his life and decide for himself what is right and wrong to such a degree that he is willing to make outlandish leaps of logic in order to maintain this belief.

"I'm not sure if there is a God"
Absolutely fair.

"I don't believe there is a God"
Fair and intellectually sound (although of course my belief differs).

"There is no God"
Absolute foolishness with zero basis in logic.

"I believe in God"
Usually voiced by a man who formerly was agnostic or even atheistic but who has availed himself of scripture in order to settle the question and found his faith.

 

[Who Dares Win]

How exactly a thread about leftism spreading in culture moved to the existence of god?

Ah ok creationism, well I dont recall any creation brainwashing children into accepting his ethnic/cultural extinction nor enforcing it.

Sure they are not exactly what I may call "wise" but at least they dont pose a threat to anyone who doesnt accept their view unlike 90% of leftists.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Yes, because leftists lean toward viewing their own childish emotional outbursts as reality. This spills over into revulsion of the idea of a moral authority, and a crippling inability to think rationally. Kind of like women, isn't it?

If you're saying that leftists do in fact pose a threat to anyone who does not accept their view (and I'm not sure if this is your point) then I absolutely agree.

Lefties spend their lives screaming about "tolerance" and yet will do everything in their power to label and shame anyone with an opposing viewpoint. Logic be damned, their emotions "must" be correct.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Yes, because leftists lean toward viewing their own childish emotional outbursts as reality. This spills over into revulsion of the idea of a moral authority, and a crippling inability to think rationally. Kind of like women, isn't it?

If you're saying that leftists do in fact pose a threat to anyone who does not accept their view (and I'm not sure if this is your point) then I absolutely agree.

Lefties spend their lives screaming about "tolerance" and yet will do everything in their power to label and shame anyone with an opposing viewpoint. Logic be damned, their emotions "must" be correct.

That's exactly my point, apparently leftists simply don't accept the idea that someone not only disagree with them but also doesnt wanna take part in their plans.

Not only they expect everyone to accept limitless immigration or an oversized government but they expect everyone to pay for that using any possible mean to achieve it, wheter is shaming,discrimination or even legal and brutal force.

In all my life never saw a demostration from leftists which didnt explode in damages to the private property or skirmishes against the police, just remember what happened what they did when Sarkozy won the elections in France.

You often hear people voting rights saying "at your home just do whatever you want just dont expect me to do the same" while you never hear a leftists which accept someone unwilling to be part of public healtcare.

Its not that those against want it dismantled, they just dont wanna be part of it yet the average leftist wants to drag him inside anyway wheter he likes it or not.
Same with guns, pro gun people have no problem if someone else wants to rely on government for their protection, while anti-gun people dont accept anyone to make a different choice.

Leftists are a danger for themselves and others and they use their position to enforce their agenda wheter is media,culture or in this case the school system.
It's not about accepting some other people view simply because they dont accept yours, its a solid part of their ideology to impose on others.