"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Leaving a powerful voicemail

alpha_ash

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So we're all busy during the day time and its rare that I will ever be able to answer a girl's call, let alone have time for a conversation. I expect women to be almost as busy as I am. As a result, when I call, I don't expect them to pick up during the day time for whatever reason. My concern is that I don't want to sound weak when leaving a voicemail, where I tell them the reason I am calling for: asking her out on a date.

"Hey this is Alpha. I was just calling to check what your plans were for Sunday afternoon. I want to go to go the museum and want you to join me. Call me back when you get a chance."

I feel like because we're all so busy with our lives (school, work, family, etc.) it is very difficult to talk on the phone. It is way easier to text and set up a date that way. Unfortunately you can't gauge the tone, pause, "hmm", "uhhh"s through a text, which are indicators of interest, or rather disinterest.

Please advise great DJs.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Darth

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"Hi, this is Darth. I hope you are well today. When you get the chance, give me a call back. I want to see what your plans are for the weekend." click.
Personally, I would wait to ask until I was actually on the phone to propose a date.
 

seethehoop

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I wouldn't ever leave a voice mail. If you leave a vm you have no way to come back from this if she doesn't respond.

Also leaving a vm means you are waiting for her response. Don't leave a vm, she gets a missed call and maybe if she is interested this has some mystery.
 
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