"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Learning to bite your tongue

old married dude

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How does one do this?

I wing for a friend & of course we face some difficult situations & the problem is that neither of us can really control what slips out of our mouths. Here's a good example, I was talking to a girl to try and get her hooked up with my friend. She asked how tall he was since she saw him from afar, and I told her he's 5'8". She replied "Ugh way too short, he'd never have a chance with me." This girl was maybe 5'2" mind you. I said to her "Well that's OK b/c he's looking for someone genuine, not a superficial b1tch." She just glared at me & walked off. Then some random guy standing next to me high-fived me which I thought was pretty funny.

I realize this is probably not very DJ-like behavior, but I've always been a smart-a$$ who's quick to tell someone exactly what I think. It's been my downfall quite a few times & I could maybe just use some pointers on how to handle this. I should have just walked away, but couldn't for some reason.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Nexus Polaris

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I'm not really seeing anything wrong. I suppose you could learn to say more clever things in those situations, but I wouldn't really recommend biting your tongue. Right now you sound like some of the most successful naturals I know.
 

46and2aheadofme

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That is awesome.

I think that speaking your mind is actually DJ-like behavior that can work in your favor.

However, I do see how there are circumstances that can get you in trouble i.e. wing-manning it for a bro.

I don't see how anyone can give you advice on how to keep your mouth shut in social situations. That just takes some old fashioned restraint.

In the particular situation that you mention, it is not like your remark killed it for your friend. However, it might have been possible to have warmed her up to your friend despite her bullsh*t parameters on height.

Maybe next time realize that it is not a lost cause when a girl announces any parameters for guys such as this- Maybe tell her that you meant he's 5'8 when he's laying on his back!
 

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46and2aheadofme said:
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In the particular situation that you mention, it is not like your remark killed it for your friend. However, it might have been possible to have warmed her up to your friend despite her bullsh*t parameters on height.
Nice that you agree that these are bullsh1t parameters too b/c I certainly think so. I just thought what I did could be a problem since I read "Keep your cool" here a lot as advice. That's something I've always had trouble with. I'm 1/2 Scottish & 1/2 Italian which is a bad combo when it comes to keeping your cool.:yes:

I've just always been very blunt and outspoken.
 

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I can relate, sometimes i lose girls because i talk too much :/
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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2crudedudes

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You shoulda said: "That's okay cuz you're kinda fat anyway" :crackup:
 

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I think you did the right thing, there was no reason to bite your tongue in this situation. she was too arrogant and she sorta insulted your friend, why would you want to be nicer to women like that :]
 

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Because SOCIETY tells us to worship women , they've never heard the truth before-it stuns them. We need more guys speaknig their minds-not less. Be HONEST, if you'd have said something like that to a GUY;would you be here asking us how to bite your tongue?
 

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I suppose I'll just continue to speak my mind then. I just need to always remember to speak my mind from 6 feet or more away, it's embarrassing to get slapped lol.
 

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ow, nice one old married dude! Made me laugh!
Here's my intake on the situation. Maybe it's not WHAT you say most of the time but HOW, once again I repeat, HOW you say those words. Did you present those words playfully? or monotonously with a cold face (aka poker face)?
Keep close observation for a couple of days of how you present your speech.
But keep the honesty in your words.

Kind regards,
DiMarko
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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dimarko said:
ow, nice one old married dude! Made me laugh!
Here's my intake on the situation. Maybe it's not WHAT you say most of the time but HOW, once again I repeat, HOW you say those words. Did you present those words playfully? or monotonously with a cold face (aka poker face)?
Keep close observation for a couple of days of how you present your speech.
But keep the honesty in your words.

Kind regards,
DiMarko
I said it with a straight poker face...she got the point that I was serious.
 

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Yup, you could just lighten up your delivery or you could maybe be a little less harsh with your insult. She's 5'2 and that's not very tall. Maybe you should have asked her, "So, you're into tall guys, huh?" She'd probably nod. Then pat her on the head and say with a smile, "yeah.....good luck with that!"
 
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