"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Lay with her after sex, or shower and see ya?

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Lay with her after sex, or see ya later?

Put yourself here for a moment. Your fvcking her, your looking at her, your thinking, "damn this chick is hot. Look at those titties, look at those lips. I could fvck her every night. . . I think she could be the one. . . I think I might even . . . llllooooooovvvvveee her" These feeling escalate as you approach cumming. Then, just after you shot her in the face with your load, or wherever you decided to put it, you suddenly loose total interest in her.

Now she has no appeal to you at all. Suddenly you are looking at a different person. Just 10 seconds ago she was a smoking hot horny girl, and now she is just some dumb chick looking at you like she's in love, and asking you to come cuddle.

Your initial instinct is to get away, to escape, to shower and leave. I have a theory for this:

If you are a seed spreader, or someone who enjoys a variety of women, there is a reason. Nature has chosen you for your genetic make-up, to impregnate many women, and ensure that fit children are created for the survival of the species. I believe that nature includes something in us that causes us to loose interest in any woman we have sex with, no matter how hot, immediately after we come.

Why is this? Because it is simply time to move on and catch another juicy prey. There is no genetic reproductive reason to stay with the girl that your body thinks you just impregnated. Our nature doesn't understand birth control. If it did, we would be compelled to keep fvcking the same girl until she was pregnant. But your balls were fooled into thinking the mission was completed, at which time you receive your new mission: to impregnate another big tittied, lip licking, dripping wet baby maker.

So, if you are the genetically chosen seed spreader type, it is painfully against your nature to hang around after sex. Research shows that the average man looses interest in the woman for 24 hours after sex. For me it is about 3 days.

So with this reality, is it a good idea to cuddle after sex anyway, to attempt to preserve a chance at future mating, or will women actually respect you as an alpha impregnator for talking off directly, and actually desire you more?

What do YOU guys do?
 
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Its because you just finished blowing your load and you are no longer horny.


However is cuddling really the end of the world?
 

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Stay the night and leave in the morning. Once I have come, I normally feel ready for sleep so it isn't such a big deal to just sleep there and then just say that I need to head off in the morning.
 

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I'm the opposite about the sleep, hard to sleep when not at home. Usually the chick just falls asleep snoring as I lay next to her wide awake. I'll always lay with her afterward for a while, but I never spend the night.

A girl I was with last year had ocd, and had to run to the shower immediately after sex to wash out her pvssy...every single time we ever fvcked. There was no cuddling, because she was in the shower. Then she'd try to make me shower, too. Eventually, we just started fvcking in the shower. It was easier that way. That was my ocd gf.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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So my theory is that guys who are in LTR's or are LTR kind of guys are either AFC insecure types, as outlined in In Interceptor's recent post, or they are just not seed spreader types.

My real mission here is to be able to explain these concepts to women, so they stop trying to push me into an LTR.
 

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Mistic said:
So my theory is that guys who are in LTR's or are LTR kind of guys are either AFC insecure types, as outlined in In Interceptor's recent post, or they are just not seed spreader types.

My real mission here is to be able to explain these concepts to women, so they stop trying to push me into an LTR.
*prays she never ever meets this man*
 

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my theory is that guys who are in LTR's or are LTR kind of guys are either AFC insecure types, as outlined in In Interceptor's recent post, or they are just not seed spreader types.

fwiw, I'm almost always in a ltr, because whatever chick I'm with keeps coming back, keeps calling, and never stops putting out. At this point in my life, I would care very little if any one woman dumped me or stopped talking to me. It is probably this quality of ambivalence that makes a girl like me and stick around, creating the ltr.

This is off the original topic, but relates to LTRs. I have seen dozens of threads on sosuave over the years about "How do I ask her to be my gf?" That is the number one most retarded question about women. It shows a complete lack of understanding about the correct male-female dynamic.

My real mission here is to be able to explain these concepts to women, so they stop trying to push me into an LTR.


Obviously, you are beyond the asking for commitment stage. That's what women do, push for the ltr. You're complaining about the side effects of your own success, and I have no sympathy. :)
 

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Man just bounce... shower? I shower once a week. That's what real men do, showering every day is for girls.
 

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I shower once a week. That's what real men do, showering every day is for girls.

You said you're Soviet, right? Is that different from Russian? I bet it's cold where you live.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Dude, you don't think with your balls. At least I hope you don't. She's lost all that value that she had because you got what you wanted from her. Now you're off for another hunt to capture a girl who, in your mind, has value. Good luck my friend!
 

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you shower once a week? does anyone let you within 10 metres of them? thats discusting lol

if you have an active life you will need a shower every day because you're workout/ sport is gonna make you sweat.
 

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I AM Soviet. 100% Russian. But now i live in Boston.
 

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Lishy said:
*prays she never ever meets this man*
You would love as much as you would hate me, and be hopelessly addicted and forever trying to figure me out. I pray you never meet me either. But if we do, I will give you the best sexual experience you have ever had. That I guarentee :D
 

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DJVladdy said:
Man just bounce... shower? I shower once a week. That's what real men do, showering every day is for girls.
You shower once a week?

That's lame, I just hose my balls down with diesel every couple of months.

Funnies aside, I don't normally shower at a one-night-stands house either. Mostly because I don't tend to have any spare clothes with me and I don't care if I smell a bit ripe during the bus/taxi ride home.

I do sometimes go for a bit of a gentleman's wash*


*Where you strip off in front of the sink and wash your armpits and balls.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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DJVladdy said:
Man just bounce... shower? I shower once a week. That's what real men do, showering every day is for girls.
Actually he is sort of right. I retract the shower part of the title.

Not showering after sex is possibly the best way to get another target.

Women can smell a fresh hot fvck on you, and it drives them crazy. Trust me. Wait one extra day to shower after sex, go out hunting, and see what happens. :D

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It's like when you're masturbating! You are like, I 'm gonna masturbate again with this f*in video cause it makes me so horny! Boom, when you end you're like, ok I'm goin to bed now... I believe that when you find the "one" or w/e you WILL like to spend the night or even more nights with her! xD
 

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Mistic said:
Women can smell a fresh hot fvck on you, and it drives them crazy. Trust me. Wait one extra day to shower after sex, go out hunting, and see what happens. :D
Really? I don't think I buy into that.

I remember once I went straight to the pub on a Sunday lunchtime after a one night stand and a mate actually made the comment that I 'stunk of sex'. He was right; too overpowering. I think that pheremones stuff only works in much subtler doses and I think that the effect is probably overshadowed by the increase in confidence/endorphin rush from having just had sex.
 

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Well there's no need to be a d.ick about it, i.e. just leave pretty much straight away.

If it was a girl I was interested in having sex with again, I'd stay and cuddle and stuff, if it was an obvious ONS, I'd either stay and talk for a bit, just have a laugh and stuff, and then leave after a while, or if she's at my place just sleep there with her.

Just leaving without a word is really low, IMO. It may make you feel like a 'pimp' or whatever, but in reality, its a sh.itty thing to do.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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