"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Law Of Power 21 - Seem Dumber Than Your Mark

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EVERYONE... knows most girls are masters of conversational trickery, mind games and social manipulation. And of course you can become just as good (naa... probley alot better:D) with practice but there is annother way... just opt out.

Recently I overheard a long converstaion with a golden oldie guy and two girls nearly half his age at a coffee shop in town.
And wilst they humourd him originally once he started escalating to flirting with them they started with all the usuall games, but he just didn't notice he continued on chatting to them like they were just they're normal selves (i.e not playing with him). Eventually they gave in, when they could see he wasnt having any of it, and had a normal human conversation with him and even became interested (this was genuine). I could see this all going horribally wrong though.


The Premise

You don't play. You are a man, you don't play games when you socialise. You, instead want to get to know them as a person and let them know anything esle though other comunication, (body language) but it's all deliberate and direct. All game playing is treated as normal converstion, unless it's really ovious of course.

This works on so many levels and comunicates so much about you. Pook has said before that real men hate playing games, this is true, how childish and debasing.
You come off as unique (because so many guys are hopeless at womans games) and distinctly masculine.
It subcomunicates that your not to be messed around and toyed with.
Girls also seem to think you're more honest and less of a player.
She'll also think that any games you play are naturall and just what you do.

And the good thing is everything you do as a - Don juan, PUA, Pimp, Player whatever - You do exactly the same. Don't call for 3 days? Make sure your the one in charge? Always make her pay for a date... Whatever. Just do it.

This has been field tested a little and gets a good reaction with the mature chicks (not old bags). The "giggly girls" (immature little brats) usually show no reaspect or mercy.

I look at this as returning to "natural game"

Comments and questions appreciated :D
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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thats right guys... no games!!!

no playing games, sports are games, strike those from your list, no mind games, or board games, no sex games, or friendly competitions...

Kinda NOT what I'm loking for in life muay... I'm looking for fun, and any girl who will make it even more fun, or at least interesting enough for me to make it fun.

I don't get played by their games if that is what you mean. Girls play tricks on guys, not games from my point of view, they badmouth you to see if you can stand it and actually have a comeback to some of their problems in life, they don't want to connect with guys who can't handle them emotionally, and they play these 'games' to see if you are worthy.
 

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Games.... as in fun games, are fun, get played, are ovious and add enjoyment to any relationship.

Head games don't.

Sorry maybe I didn't make that clear.
 

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Muay, your post isnt exactly clear, altho i do have a broad understanding of what you're trying to say.

No matter how much you try to avoid it, games will happen one way or another.

Although through experience, games cant be forced. you have to allow it to take its course naturally.

If Girl A plays Game A --> then Guy B reacts with Game B.

Sort of a push and pull thing, maintain a balance.

Girls value honesty in a LTR, mystery and games is better left for the one night stands or the STR. However, girls will play games in LTR if they want to make it interesting.

The best thing to do in a LTR is keep busy and unpredictable.
 

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Im not good at articulating things on papper.

Maybe i should of put this in disscussion?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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