"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Late 30's AFC can you help?

Maverick10

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Hey guys

I wonder if you can help me out. My background is pretty much an AFC ( I hate that term) I just finished reading 'The Game' I enjoyed the book found it amusing. I've known about this book for a while but picked up and read it recently. I am pretty much like the author in his AFC days. I am late 30's myself and been single for 3 years & as AFC as you get. I look about average not fat or anything I work out at the gym.

I used to have fun social life but moved to a new place 4 years ago for work. It is small town in middle of nowhere nearest city is 3 hours away. Although one thing it has going for it is it's also a university town. Cut a long story short the book has got me thinking about getting out of my rut of staying in watching film surfing the net & watching too much porn!

My problem is I have to go sarging on my own as although know plenty of people in work they all have families etc.

After driving home from work on friday and seeing a bunch of college girls dressed up walking into town I was thinking holy crap they look hot, I'm not going to stay in this time I'm going out! Later that night I went out walked into bar & felt like the most self conscious person ever. I felt like I was was oldest person in there by 15 years. I had extreme AA everyone would know I was on my own and was some old creepy weirdo sexual predator that their Mothers had warned them about. So I basically walked around for a bit and went home with my tail between my legs!

The PUA world is a new one to me. When you put PUA into google it strikes me as very much the same as putting in 'how do I get a six pac?' the next thing your bombarded with popup adverts that claim to solve all your problems a bunch of sales pitches from gurus sign up to this and that it all seems like BS.

Do these techniques of openers negging inner game etc etc work? Or is all this stuff just another myth scam type thing.

Thanks for reading :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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evan12

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I read the game too, you have to not forget nail changed a lot in his style (as he almost admitted in the last chapter from book ) so it wasnt only his words .
does this stuff works ? the answer is yes , I do it and seem to be a lot of good advise , but the thing is you have to change your personality to be more confidant , if a shy guy tell to a woman is your hair fake or not she probably will not even reply to him .
same thing if shy or AFC asked a woman that he want to kiss her , it would be so creepy

regarding to bars , in my opinion a lot of women are sexually attracted to older men , but the social norms of western culture shame this desire , so a lot of girls pretend that "ow it is creepy" .
I think the most practical way in getting women (after you come not AFC ) is to find a part time job in place that there are women , like bartender, retail store , etc
 

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I can honestly say it does work. I did a little bit of research into PUA but I learned everything I needed from these forums.
I went from being a typical plugged in chump to getting laid more than I ever dreamed.

Basically, you have to work on yourself - all aspects of yourself. Work out, get fit, dress well, learn to be ****y and funny, don't let women walk all over you, learn how to build attraction to a point that the woman does most of the work in trying to nail you down (not the other way around).
Spin plates, develop an abundance mentality, convince yourself that you are the prize to be won by a worthy woman.
I don't consider myself a true "DJ" but reading the stuff here certainly helped me unplug and transform myself from a mewling apologist who was grateful if a girl let me buy her drinks all night and then leave, to a man with a higher value of himself who knows what it takes to be happier in life and how to get women to add to that happiness, not detract from it.
 
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