Last Question I Got For YOu Guys

[Mr. Cardio]

I read more of Pooks articles, and I have also read other articles here. I came here just to try and understand why I was attractive to women by being a jerk, and why I am so content with myself without a lot of close friends, even though I am still ambitious. Pook said that sexuality is what attracts women, somebody please explain to me, what the hell is it mean for a man to be in sexuality? I have read the articles, but I dont understand......is it saying horny things, being in a sexual state as Gun witch said, is it ****y and funny, what the hell is it? This is my last question and I will leave you guys alone for a while, great site overall.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

anybody?

 

[So pimp its scary]

That's actually more than 1 last question there... but I'll help you anyway. (That is also an example of a c&f type reply, which is like subconsciously telling the women 'You're not perfect, but I like you anyway')

Now, it's not about being a jerk that is attractive to women... but the characteristics of jerks that they look for (except those looking to marry). When I first came to the site, I was uber-nice guy... always aiming to please, but never pleasing. Now, I took the time to learn what traits hurt and which traits helped. (Some people consider this acting... to them I say, it was acting at first) I still consider myself a nice guy, but I present myself in a more 'dominant/masculine' way. (BTW, I'm no means a guru or anything, but I'm still adept).

To answer your question about sexuality, it's more about embracing the fact that you enjoy sex, that it's natural, and that you don't have hangups about it. You'll know your getting it right when you can meet a woman, and within five minutes be discussing sexual topics with her still being comfortable.

Ok, you've read Gunwhich... It's not SAYING horny words, but more THINKING horny thoughts and having horny FEELINGS. Not necessarily popping a woody, but conveying that you are sexually interested in her RIGHT NOW, through your body language alone.

Is there a particular reason why you're leaving?

Anyway, you might understand what you read on an intellectual level... but that is not enough, you have to understand this on a gut feeling level to be truly useful.

 

[penkitten]

the last thing you wanna do is "leave us alone for a while" or "have one last question"

please stick around.
read the bible , read the articles, read the hall of fame threads, read all the threads.
you may find things interesting and stick around.
post replies to threads.
ask questions and post them.
discuss matters.

use this site as a learning tool.

learn from the info you see here and learn to apply it to your individual self and current situations.

learn that part of attracking women and getting dates , the secrets to getting women has alot to do with your self esteem and how you are as a man.
the more relaxed and comfortable you are with yourself, the more laid back you seem.
the more fun you will have, the more you enjoy life.
these things help you achieve all the things in the dating world that you seek.

along the way, you will see other threads where you can offer your opinions and views and beliefs and experience.
part of this site is taking the info you need and the other part is returning the favor.

if you have any tips or advise for other guys, please share it.
it is well appreciated.

a tip of advise is to remember that everyone has different veiws and beliefs and personalities and ways of thinking. some things are not going to apply to everyone and every situation.
you will see some flamebaiters who will not agree with you. ignore them or discuss matters. however the key is to not take it all to heart. your dating style will vary from the next guy.


hope to see you stay here and enjoy this community.

 

[nishbuk]

The one man that I've heard accurately give a way to develop "sexuality" is gunwitch. Even if you don't agree with his goals, or how he does things, his section "sexual state" is GOLD. Learn it. It's awesome.
That will teach you what "sexuality" means. At least to a certain degree. If you use it in conjunction with the other stuff on this site, and make it part of you, you'll be great.

(It's in the bible under "new articles")

 

[Mr. Cardio]

See, so I was right, because I concluded that sexuality was more of a being horny but expressing it sort of non verbally, like, through my body language but not screaming, get over here and lets fvck because then her social barriers would come up. But I still dont get it, I am no expert on women, and hell, I would like to be a lot better. But the only major legendary poster around here I relate to is Pook, because I swear it seems like he is preaching to me, as I am more focused on my dreams and goals then pleasing a girl, however, I cant deny girls, but at the same time, I would rather be totally focused on my dreams.....but as you know, that little horny devil in me will rise up and say go out and get a woman. So that explains why I go to the clubs a lot. But this whole sexuality, ****y funny stuff, confidence, laid back, I do that stuff already but I still dont have the girls I really want. To be honest.

 

[Mr. Cardio]

Oh yeah, and I ll be around here when I have time to get on the net, I m just confused about this women thing, because after reading all these things, I already do this stuff. The sexual state, the ****y and funny, I dress okay, I am a good looking guy but I still dont get the girls I really want like the really good looking ones. I mean, basically its like you guys are saying, do this and do that and add this to your personality, and then you will get the girl you want cause you are now a don juan, but guys, I already had this don juan mindset before I even found this site, and I dont have the girl I want, and I dont screw the girls i want, the girls I screw are about 5s and 6s, just to be honest. So if you guys can tell me how to get to the 8s and 9s, hell, I ll take you svckers out for beers!

 

[So pimp its scary]

Play with me for a second : Pretend I'm a hot girl, spit your game for me. (I'll even let you put words in my mouth).

Think of this : Would a woman want a guy whose life purpose is women? That might help to explain Pook a little better for you... the thing is, at one point or another you're going to have to start approaching, and make the goal of getting a great woman.

The way that you get the 8's, 9's and 10's is to start with the 5's, 6's and 7's, you know, the girls that you dont care so much if you succeed or not. That's where you develop the right mentality... the mentality makes or breaks you.

It speaks louder than any words that you say, it's revealed in your every gesture, movement, comment, etc. So, based on what you've written, I can assume that are likely not doing these things 'RIGHT'... or more likely that you are not doing these things in a Coherent way.

Go rent the movie 'Tao of Steve' I have a feeling you're about at that point where that movie will get you going (watch it 3-4 times if you have to).

 

[Mr. Cardio]

Okay, pimp let me explain here. I am black okay, I am a more college oriented, business guy in sales, I do quite well for a 22 year old, I just turned 22 on August 5, and I am gettin out of school this december. Girls in my culture are really into thug type of guys........and I do cold approaches all the time bro, but my frustrating thing is that all i can get is 5s. Why is it frustrating? Because if I have a bad jump shot I can go work on it buy improving my game and focus. But, since I already apply the techniques here, I mean, I really should not say apply because I do them quite naturally, and I still dont get the results I want, I mean, what do I do. I read the attraction, I have a damn 28.5 inch waist, I am lean and toned as hell, my body looks great, I look great, I have great convo, I am ****y and funny, I do all this stuff here man. Man, this stuff is really pissing me off, because, I am so sick and tired of women having all this damn control over guys I am really starting to hate these women for real. You might say I m in the wrong and I need to change, but I dont know what else I am supposed to do? I applied your guys techniques, hell, I was even doing them before I knew I was doing them, but what happens, she goes off with the gangstas! I am not, and will not, become a gangsta just to get a girl, but sadly as it is, only the fives and sixes will be left. Can somebody on this site, fvckin help me?

 

[Mr. Cardio]

Oh yeah, heres my role play

She is standing by the magazine racks reading a magazine

me: thats a good read right there (killa eye contact)

her: oh thank you

me: but you should try this one

her: which one?

me: this one right here......

that would be an opener and I would just try to keep a convo going and get into what Gunwitch described as a sexual state...honestly, I usually get the girls that I really dont want. Dont know what I m doing wrong though?

 

[zerocelcius]

I am not sure if this is going to be any help to you but after reading the posts it poped into my head.

You said you don't get 8, 9, or 10's, but what is a 8-10 to you. If you are going by physical traits alone you have to understand somthing about a lot (not all) of 8-10's.

Unlike guys being a 8-10 girl you can get any guy you want, and they all throw them selfs at her day after day. With that in mind know that the younger ones enjoy that and are empowered by it. So no matter what you do to gain the control you can't beat the number game. Sure you can be at the top of the list but her lust for that empowerment dosn't allow her to settle for the best but the whole.

She can have her cake and eat it too.

We may want the 8-10's but the majority of 8-10's don't want anything more than what they have. Everything.

If you are doing everything right and aren't landing the girls you want the one thing you may do that you are not doing, is to just go after 8-10's. Now you are playing the number game. I have a friend who dosn't do anything from this sight at all. He is tall but besides that he is quite and isn't funny. But is completely sex driven. He only goes after his opinion of 8-10's and he gets them. Mostly because he goes after them or is around only 8-10's.

So the answer I can give to you about sexuality and getting 8-10's is Be sexual and assosiate with only 8-10's. You are bound to find a 8-10 that has a high attraction level for you and the way you are. The more you are around the more you will get. The more you get the more you will be able to attract.

 

[So pimp its scary]

Allright, I'm starting to understand your plight... No, I won't ever understand what it's like to have all the women want the more thuggish guys, it's just not my situation. You won't have to become gangster either...

I'm trying to help, but realize that just giving you the same advice I would give another would be like, in a chess game, would be like telling you what will win the game without being able to see the other persons pieces. So, some patience on your part will be beneficial as well.

You mentioned the lack of control, could it be that while you do have a c&f attitude that at the same time you are bending to the whims of the women that you are trying to seduce?

There was nothing wrong with your little roleplay, and actually that was pretty good.

Is it possible that you are simply trying to hard to land a woman? I mean, when you approach a woman, how concerned are you about the outcome of that particular interaction? You did mention that you can usually pull the women that you aren't usually attracted to...

How do you act differently with the women that you aren't particularily interested in, and the ones that you are massively interested in? (The answer should be 'No different'... and I mean the exact same, eye contact, voice tone, body language, gestures, stories, everything.)

 

[Mr. Cardio]

So Pimp its scary, I do notice that when I am out and about, the more attractive the girl is, the more fear I feel on the inside, however, I still remain with my normal eye contact, low voice tone routine and I can see it working on her. I dont give in, I maintain control at all times, but I believe it has something to do with what the other poster said....I believe that the girl knows that I am attracted, (well, of course), and she uses that as empowerment. I dont go out and say I love you, let me buy you this or that, I am just normal, natural, and very upbeat and happy like. Like I said, the ****y and funny comes naturally. I dont think I am trying to hard, matter-of-fact, I may not be trying hard enough......but I defiantly do all the don juan things, and I was doing them before I even knew they existed!

Now when I go to the club, dude, you should see me, I have no friends so I roll solo, and I swear, I am the life of that party dude! I talk wit every girl in the club damn near, heres and example of a club chat...

I notice a group of chicks sitting around laughing or whatever:

me: (upbeat, choppy) Hey what are yall doin!

them or a couple of them say: What, what do you mean

me: why the hell arent yall dancin!

them: start laughin

me: I am goin to come back in five minutes and yall betta be on that dance floor!

them: okay

then I go off and mess wit somebody else, if I see a girl standing alone or near the floor, I say:

me: (pulling her arm to the floor) come on, this is your song!

her: what (usually laughin), (most will just go wit me to the floor if the club is upbeat, some will not, if she resists, I play wit her...still holdin on to the one hand and I take my other one and act like I am tryin to pull her away....its hard to explain but its kinda funny, so if she doesnt go I say

me: what are you doin!

her: I dont feel like dancin right now

me: look, you know what, you need to get loose!

then I go off to another one. This will usually happen most of the night, and eventually I would have either talked to, danced with, grinded, made out with, just about every girl in the club, seriously. I leave wit a girl sometimes, then sometimes I dont, I need help on that too, but I am defiantly the life of the party.

On a personal note, I know this is long, but sometimes I get depressed, because I dont have any realllll friends, you know the ones that realllly are down for you, and I made up my mind, if I dont have any reallll friends, then I dont wanna be hangin around no fake ones, hell, I can do betta alone, and I do. But it gets to me sometimes. Hey, can ya help me on the conversations wit women, and by being black, would the laws of attraction be the same wit black girls just as wit white girls? Cauz like I say, gangstas and thugs are sex symbols to black girls. Thanks my friend, and if you are ever near Detroit, let me know and I ll be ya a beer. Thanks for all the replies guys, I couldnt have asked for more