Last Chance

[Gamechanger123]

Hello!

I'm a college sophomore going to a major university in the southern US. I have not been with any girls since my ex. We had a long term relationship and have since been broken up. We have seen each other/had sex but now I have completely cut that off. Ever since then I have been absolute **** with the ladies. A couple of things I am working on.

1. I train boxing 4-5 times a week.
2. My classes are really tough so I go out 1-2 times per week. Usually to clubs or bars. I don't have any friends that throw parties and I am not in a frat so it is very hard to find them.
3. I try to eat healthy and live a well rounded lifestyle. I stay in shape, meditate, study, try to have fun.

I have a few questions for the people on this forum.

- How do you pick up girls?
The main stay of girls that I have had throughout my life. (16-20) lost count. Were one's that I did not try with. Any time that I have to think about what I am doing, texting, etc. I never have any luck. Very sparingly, around 5% success, have I laid a girl that I really tried to run game on. It seems to forced. They never have high IL from the start and it's just me asking a bunch of fckin questions with short answers.
- How do you give off a desperate vibe?
I don't get the game. I have a desire to bang all of these beautiful women, but none will give me the chance. I had a few at the beginning of the year friend zone me or disrespect me, but I have yet to pull any new girls from this university. They will talk to you and be around you, but the minute you ask for date they say no. It just sucks and gets me down. I know I am a good looking guy.
- How do you get the girls to wanna hang out with you?
I have a couple of friends that are really good with women. They don't ever ask them to hang out. The girls blow up their phones. Ask to come to their houses, have sex with them. Girls don't ever see me in that light. I'm either in the friendzone or just ignored completely. I wanna enjoy the women while I still can.

Help me out guys. I know that it takes practice, but I am sick of practicing the wrong way. I wanna know step by step when you meet a girl how to ATTRACT her. I wanna be chased or be around women with high IL. Im so tired of chasing these low IL women. I plan on making a log of my interactions with women on this thread. Thank you all for reading.

 

[Von]

You need to make friends in your gym and passion to go out with. Ask advice from your friends.

Work on your stance, be stable when you talk to women, show interest but independance.... and look at them like they human.

 

[Gamechanger123]

Hit up a girl I met at the bar a few weeks ago. She asked me to meet her for a few drinks after she gets off. This is the first time we actually had a conversation. I get her laughing, we're both using kino on each other and having a great time. Bar closes and me, her, and a couple she is with go eat.

We're all drunk but me and her are the most sober. I knew she was driving the couple home so I didn't try to escalate. She mentioned she is off work tomorrow so I tell her when she drops me off to meet up tomorrow.

- should I have asked her to hang out again. She works everyday and I'm busy too. I was thinking of waiting it out till next weekend after my exams but I honestly didn't wanna do that.

- should I have tried to escalate last night. I feel like that wasn't a good opportunity.

- as for hanging out today should I hit her up or let her text me.

So many questions I know but it's all so foreign to me after a LTR

 

[RangerMIke]

Hard to say based on what you posted.

You have to understand this about women... they can read your mind. I know... it's creepy, but very few men can really hide anything from women. So if you are going around with the mental attitude you described about, you are going to come off as desperate and needy.

So when you are talking to women, you have to get your mind right first. You have to use your imagination and get outside your head.

Think about how you act around someone that you are trying to get something from. Say you're a salesman and you are trying to close a sale... how do you act? You try to build trust, you are friendly, open, focused on your target, to a woman.... this coming from a man that is no congruent with self confidence comes off as creepy. Now imagine how you would act if you knew the sale was in the bag.... that no matter what you do, you will get that sale, because you have such a great product and who else are they going to buy from? You will be more genuine more honest, women pick up on this.

The later mindset is what you need to have when you approach women. You have to really believe that you are the prize, and that any woman would be lucky to be with you.... If you really believe this then act like you believe it.... if you don't believe this about yourself, then work on those things that are driving your limiting belief. The truth is that there is no magic pill or techniques you can learn, you MUST work on yourself and try to become the best person you can be.

 

[Building_and_Loan]

Don't stress about it at all. You're young, you have plenty of opportunities in front of you, and you came to the right place.

When you're talking to a girl you're interested in, act like you have 3 or 4 other girls blowing up your phone wanting to hang out with you. Act like once you get done talking to her, you're going to go have mind blowing sex with a girl who is hotter than her. This will help you be less outcome-dependent, more relaxed because you don't care how it turns out with her. If she wants to join your list of plates, then awesome. If not, who cares?

Also, just remember that meeting girls is supposed to be fun. If you're not having fun, you likely exude nervousness, desperation, and insecurity in your interactions. Women hate that. Learn to have fun while talking to girls.

You sound like you have a lot going on for you, which is good. Do you have time to join clubs and groups on campus? Maybe volunteer for an alumni association event, concession stands at sporting events, freshman orientation, etc.? Anything that will allow you to work on your interaction skills, will look good on your resume, and meet girls will be a big plus. Sometimes the bar scene isn't the best way to go about talking to girls.

 

[Gamechanger123]

Last night I went out with the girl from the other night. She picked me up and we went to a venue that was Bring your own beer. We spent about three hours there talking and really getting to know each other. After a few beers deep we gradually were gravitating toward each other and making alot of eye contact and kino. She was putting her legs near me so I had to rub those things, which I did haha. Her kino was mainly touching me on the arm and playful pushing, etc. We told stories back and forth while we were drunk and she would laugh her ass off at everything I said.

After, we headed to a cheap late night restraunt for some drunchies. It was the same thing as the previous venue. We were throwing food at each other, neg-hitting and just cutting up. I wanna insert a part of conversation, tell me how I could have done this better.

Her : Gosh, I wish I didn't have to drive all the way home.
Me : You can stay at my place, if you're so worried about it.
Her : No way! You wish I was stepping foot in there.
Me : Don't get ****y! You were destined for the couch. (lies)
Her : Psh yeah right!

I wanna refer back to this in the end but I'll finish the date first.

She drives me home and we were talking about each others upcoming weeks. We both are definatly busy so I don't see us hanging out again for a bit. When it was time for her to drop me off she pulled into a handicap space and put the car in park for a min. I thanked her for coming out and we started kissing for a little bit. I told her "I'll see her around" and we go our seperate ways.

- For the conversation, do you guys think that I handled that well? Should I have been more persistent or less. How would you guys handle that.
- Making out is always a good sign right? Do you guys ever think a girl would make out with someone she isn't that attracted to?
- I wanna make this girl a FWB because we both mentioned that we didn't wanna be in a relationship. Am I doomed because I didn't achieve the lay tonight. I don't wanna be so outcome dependedent. This girl is alot of fun and I just wanna be in the present.

Thank you guys for reading. I'm gonna change the title soon so people will know this is a log.

 

[Building_and_Loan]

You waited too long to kiss her. You should have escalated when you were at the first venue and the kino was high, when you were touching her legs.

She wanted you to escalate earlier than when you did.

As far as your conversation with her, when she said sheshe wished she didn't have to drive all the way home, I would have responded with "come back to my place and we can catch up on my Netflix series" or something like that.

 

[Gamechanger123]

Best advice I can give you right now:

Visit this site every day and read read read. Use the search feature.

I've read the djb, bop, jariel, everything. I'm just not trying to get sucked into info overload again. I realized when it comes to performance (at least for me) I'm a test taking type as opposed to reading all the time. I love to go out and make this log so you guys can give me tips corresponding to the specific social situation. If I feed my already analytical mind any more it will give me more to think about. Which hinders me.

 

[Gamechanger123]

Went out with the same girl I have been seeing. Had a great time. Making out (Heavily), laughing, and having a great time. So things are going good with this plate.

There is another plate, but I wouldn't consider her a legit plate because she LJBF me a few months ago. I really liked her and still do. Anyways... I was having a bad day with test results and I just broke. I was so upset that I did bad on a test that I prepared 30+ hrs for. It's more disappointing than when you try really hard and still fail.

Back to the subject! This girl is very beautiful and we are carbon copies of each other. She comes from a very wealthy social class compared to me and she demonstrates very reckless behavior because she is able be payed out of it by her family. I have tried to get rid of this girl three times and she keeps coming back.

1st time : Me and this girl spent alot of time together, going to bars and clubs and restaraunts. I never wanted to be this girls bf but I did want to sleep with her. She is very unreliable often making plans and going ghost. I was sick of being in this girls frame. Her game is far ahead of mine. I never call her or text her, but she always will ask me to hang out and it is hard to say no. I started to realize after a while that whenever she needed my help with school she would come around even more frequently. I dont mind helping her, but to be honest I wanted a FWB relationship. I made it clear after a while that I was interested, but she did not want to have anything to do with me romantically. We both are recently out of LTRs so I felt that would be a good thing. She is always talking to multiple guys at once and will have sex with drug dealers and frat boys. I got sick of her stereotypical **** so one day I told her I was done hanging out with her. When I got home I blocked all forms of contact. This did not last long because she send one of her girlfriends to talk me into coming back around. MISTAKE 1.

2nd time : So we start hanging out again. I will remind you guys again that I do not ever ask this girl to hang out. She will ask me to hang out and will give me gifts and possessions and favors to hang out with her again. I was fine with being her friend because I thought we could have a good long term friendship. All of a sudden she started making plans with me often and would flake 60% of the time. Whenever she finds something better, like a party she will go for that and I wont hear from her. Her excuse is that I never hit her up when she makes plans with me, I expect someone to respect my time if I agree to schedule time out of my day to spend with them. I told myself that I will allow her to flake 5 times and then I will cut her out again. She fufilled her destiny and again I cut off contact. She blew my phone up with calls and texts and offered to do many favors to hang out with me again. This lasted a little bit longer until she called me from another number. I answered the phone like an idiot and here she is back around. MISTAKE 2.

3rd time : This time did not last long. We probably hung out a little bit less than a week. I finally have had enough of this toxic relationship. After an exam... Did bad on it and was in a bad mood... I walked to her house. I told her to come outside to talk to me and I let her know the truth. I told her straight up that I was sick of being around while she had sex with other guys. I told her I liked her alot. She responded with,
"I just got out of a relationship and am not ready." Being honest I told her that I didn't want a relationship but I wanted to pretty much have sex with her." I told her to have a nice life that I was done kissing her ass and being good to her. I walked off her property with hopes I won't have to deal with her again. She has texted me a few times and called, but I think she is giving up.

- Guys what happened to me? How did I let someone like this play me like a fool.
- What do you guys think about female friends. I honestly do not want to be friends with a single girl that is not attracted to me physically. They are of no value to me. I liked this girl and just wanted to be good to her. I did not care if she was with other people. I honestly wanted to hit it one time. lol.

I got two other plates, including the one that I hang out with today and will continue to spin em. I feel like this is the best course of action for now. Thank you for reading my message. I would have posted more detail about my date today, but that was a success. I feel like this is a place where we all post our mistakes and methods to correct them. I am having a great time with my life and have many other endeavors so please let me know what you guys would do with specific situations. Not self improvement based.

 

[Desdinova]

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[MrWood]

"I thanked her for coming out and we started kissing for a little bit. I told her "I'll see her around" and we go our seperate ways. "

you rejected her, no wonder she went cold... no pvssy tingles

for the boyfriend/husband/ex/just broke up? I usually say..
"I didnt ask you if you did/have / I prefer to not hear it thanks"