"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Last 3 chicks I laid...

JPFromTally

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Man, this forum is going way down hill. There are actually threads of guys who want to ask out girls by giving them roses. Geez.. Anyways, I figured I would tell you guys of my last 3 sucess stories within the past six months and see if it helps anybody.

Carrie
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This girl is a solid 9 in face and body. Little skinny waist and C boobs. Small town girl who doesn't know how pretty she really is.
Was at a tradeshow out of town and she was working for the local visitor's bureau. She was sitting at her booth looking bored as hell. Asked her if she knew where a certain restaurant was and if she could give me directions. I asked where she was going to school, how old she was (19), etc. Told her I was in town only for a couple of nights and that she should come back to the hotel later that night and have a couple of drinks at a reception. She accepted, came to the reception and after a couple of hours and a few drinks she came up to my room. Total cost: $0 - expensed the drinks to the company account.

Kim
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Blond. Blue eyes. 5'1 petite chick. Was at a club and noticed her checking me out. She was a friend of a chick my buddy was nailing. Got a large double rum and coke and waited til she got on the dance floor. Did my old move where I look a girl in the eye and smile as I approach and grab her by her waist and start dancing. Danced for 20 minutes before we start making out. Asked her if she wanted to go to an "afterparty" at my place when the club closed. She wanted to but her friend was sick and wanted to go home (c-block). Called her the next friday at about 6PM and asked if she was going to be out. She said she was going to a different club. Told her cool.. maybe we'll meet up. Got there 30 minutes before club closed and asked her if she needed a ride home. Said she did and took her home and spent the night. Total cost: $0.

Lisa
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Hot ass latin waitress with a booty that would make j-lo jealous. Works at a local pool hall. I admit I c-blocked my buddy bad because he was trying to hit on her. I pulled the most ****y/funny routine I ever have. Just ragging on her about anything I could. This was on a Friday night. On Wednesday I call her at 9PM. Ask her what she's doing and she says "nothing just bored." Saw my opportunity and said "why don't I come over and we'll watch TV and you could give me a backrub." She said "No, you give me one, bla, bla, bla." I said OK and she invited me over. An hour after hanging out and drinking wine I tell her I have to get up early the next night and have to go. She says "No, stay, yada, yada.." So I slept over but got no sleep. (Total cost: $0 since she had the wine already).


Moral of the story
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How many girls did I hit on in the last six months? 3? Try closer to 30. Sometimes it just works. Sometimes it just doesn't. I'll start talking to girls sometimes at the bookstore and everything's going great and then she tells me she's there to shop for a gift for her boyfriend. NO BIG DEAL!

Do I ever spend any money to get laid. No! I only spend money if I want to continue seeing a girl and she deserves it.

I will tell you this. In the case of the first girl I remember seeing her and thinking "Damn.. she is so hot." Then I waited for a while and almost convinced myself to talk to her the next day. Well you know what? She didn't work the next day! If I would have procastinated I would have never got to meet her. Here I was thinking that she was so freaking hot that she would shoot me down but instead she was this shy girl who had just been dumped by her first boyfriend.

Who knew?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Originally posted by JPFromTally

Carrie
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This girl is a solid 9 in face and body. Little skinny waist and C boobs. Small town girl who doesn't know how pretty she really is.
Carrie huh?
 

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Verry interesting. Women, sexually are an enigma, all grey area with little black or white. Men are black or white. We want sex all the time, 24-7. 7 days a week, twice to thrice nightly would be fine for me, during the "honeymoon" period (1st year) getting down to 3 times a week, but 3 times, where wine, and massage oil, and blindfolds and toys, and restraints are brought into the picture, but thats just me.

I met a girl who flirted heavily, at first, took me back to her place, and after some cuddling, I was informed that she was "on the rag" and "couldnt tonight" after I told her that Dracula was a personal hero, and I didnt mind a little plasma on Mr. Happy. Didnt happen, I left at 3am.

A month later, she is at a club with two old ba$tards hitting on her, when I pulled a c**kblock that should recieve honors, and liberated her from them. IF they could have done something about it, they probably would have, but I'm sure they valued their pretty anterior teeth, and werent in the mood for mangled limbs, and broken hips. We danced, and made out (In front of the two men, who had blue ball$ for days after that!) and unfortunatley she wanted to go home, and with a male ACL. Soooo, she did, but I did manage to ask her out for the following evening.

The following evening, after some alcohol was made available to her, after what seemed like a decade of foreplay (Actually three hours) we finally got to try the missionary position, and I tried a few different angles of penetration (deep) where her legs were basically behind her head, in the air, ect. After a fantastic climax to that story, we fell asleep in each other's naked limbs until about 6am when the bell rang for "Round 2"

A week later, I invited her to have a "Blockbuster Night" complete with Chinese take out, DVDs, and a couple of sixers of Alien Amber Ale. All went well, except that when she greeted me, she was wearing baggy sweats and no make up. We ate, drank, and cuddled, and went to sleep/ I spent the night but was told that she was "bloated" or some BS excuse, but I stayed anyway, as it was nice and warm and cuddly.

She gets one more try. She told me on the second "date" that she wanted us to be f**k buddies. Which was OK by me, but that does mean that we do f**k once in a while. I am going to call her in the next day or two, when I have some time, and see if she wants to try some new positions. If she does, wonderful, I will fill you guys in on the new adventures of Mr. Presscot and his private escort, but if I get anymore BS excuses, it's strictly "NEXT!"
There are a couple of prospects at the place where I Barback at, a 23 year old who is at least a "D" with a J-Lo behind who I kissed the other night, a taller woman with a boyfriend who is always massaging my back, and a HOTT bartender from Bulgaria who might be a dyke, but is EXTREMLEY friendly, and slightly flirtatious.

I know this dating stuff is all basically a numbers game.
 

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Originally posted by JPFromTally
How many girls did I hit on in the last six months? 3? Try closer to 30. Sometimes it just works. Sometimes it just doesn't.
Those ads may be reasistic, but they sure do suck.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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hey JP,

can I ask you a question,

what do you attribute your success stories to ...? are you a good looking dude ..?
 

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Nice, bro. You've got skills.

How do you dress? What is your height/weight? Age?
I'm just curious. I'm nowhere near the level you're playing at in the clubs. I primarily date girls I meet online - it works much better for me. I've got a buddy who does what you do at clubs and the mall, however he was once a model and girls just melt when they first see him. He's good with his mouthpiece though - he puts them at ease quickly.


EDIT: I just saw that you meant you hit on 30, not banged 30. I thought you said you had banged 30 girls in the past 6 months!! I was baffled. I'm still curious about your stats.
 

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I would say I'm good looking since I do get compliments... mostly from older women 30+ but I usually don't go for those. I'm about 5'11.. 175lbs. I go to the gym 3 times a week. I look Italian or Latin. I wouldn't say I'm a model but not bad looking.

I would say that what I do different that most guys don't is that I'm aggressive and I can talk a good game. Most guys don't know how to elicit values and that's big. Plus you always have to have common ground. If a girl says, "I'm from Boston" I say "I can't stand that the bars there close that early. Do you miss it up there? Bla, bla, bla." If a girls says she's from Miami I say, "Damn I love going to La Casita Cuban restaurant."

If I feel a vibe, and only if I feel a vibe then I'm agressive. For example, there was this girl who said she liked her hair pulled during sex. I said "like this?" and grabbed a hand full of her hair (not too hard) and looked her straight in the eye while doing it. That's another thing... you've gotta always look girls in the eye and think that you're the sh|t. If you come off as unsure it just won't work.

Another thing is that most guys are afraid to let girls even think that they are seeing other women. This is a big mistake. Most girls for some reason or another think I do a different girl every weekend even though it's not always the truth. I never say anything to the contrary though. Yet, they seem to think it's a good thing.. Go figure...

Plus... I was saying these were my last 3 success stories. There are other girls like ones I date, etc.
 

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Cool. I get that too from girls. They say stuff to me like, "you have a different girl here every night." Which, has been the case depending on my mood. I pull what a call a 'hat-trick' every 6 months or so. I'll have a different girl come over for 3 nights in a row.

To you new guys: If you pull a hat-trick, your sheets will get those white girl-cvm skidmarks on them, so make sure they're washed. I've flipped over comfortors a few times when I have a different girl over. Fukking red sheets, man.

I'm 5'8 175-185lbs depending on the month. I usually work out 4-5x a week, but I've been taking a break for a while.

Eliciting values is important. You don't want to be barking up the wrong tree. Some girls are just prude like that, so find out quickly what they're all about.

Cheers! :cheer:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Just looking at this post of mine from last year. Damn.. time flies. 2005 was a lot better for me as far as hooking up than 2006 was... Granted I worked my ass off and had a girl living with me all summer.

Anyway, I think they're still good stories...
 

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Yeah I liked them man, good looking out.

Lemme throw a couple of mine from the last month:

Abbie? (don't remember the name :))

Met her while going from one bar across the street to another bar, she was standing by herself with her 34DD's hanging out in the wind. I could't think of anything else so I just walked up and started talking. Soon I was telling her how much I love her breasts, how I would spank her and **** her silly. I kissed her and she bit my lips. Hard. I kept hanging with her and then said "Let's get out of here" Took a cab to her place.

Natalie
Went to a club, saw two hot girls walking towards the club and ran across the street to meet them. They ended up being russian like I. Saw them inside again, took the hotter one and went dancing with her. Started making out, rubbing her parts out. Took her by the hand on the couch, let her get on top of me. Got the digits later in her car when were chilling there. (No sex here)


And I want to touch on organizedconfusion's post. It is truly amazing. Like less than 6 months ago I couldn't just look at the girl and believe that I can get her. Now I can with most girls. Some reallly hot girls might intimidate at times, but for the most part I just look at the girl, smirk and think "yeah, I got this one in the bag"

The funniest thing? I got nicer with girls, that is what made it work 100% better.
 

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Here's my problem wit all this.

You say this took place over a six-month period. Does this mean you got three lays in six months? That's not a DJ. that's terrible.

So it didn't cost you any money. You know, there are more important things in the world than money. Things like companionship. Understanding. Love. I'm not saying you could buy those things, but in a modern society when you want a relationship with another person - man or woman, romantic or platonic - at some point you're going to get tired of sitting at home and you'll have to go out and do something.

So.. get a relationship already... if you're man enough.
 

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I don't understand why so many people get stressed about getting laid. It's not that hard to do especially if you do anything social with your life. You go out every day to work and have to interact with girls, so why should it be hard for you do do it in your off hours? It's not that complicated getting a girl into bed, you just have to manage the conversation and read the usually blaitanly obvious signs.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Leporello, that's just an example of 3 success stories. I'm just trying to let guys on here know that you don't have to take every girl on 5 dates to get them into bed.

How many girls do you lay a year... Oh wait, probably 0-1 cause you're in relationship right?
 

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JP TALLY- The way you hooked up with these girls you must have model looks. It was easy for you the girls kind of fell into your lap.:up:


I have model looks and most of the girls I have fvcked came onto me. But 30 in the last 6 months I find that hard to believe. NOT TO FLAME OR BE A HATER>


Why don't u post some of the info with the other girls as u did the last 3. I think it would be interesting.
 

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11pm - 1:30 am
Three makeouts, two cl!t rubs, ass rubs, tit rubs, Adriana Lima looking b1tch, Asian Sensation who I might meet up with tomorrow after getting her number, lot's of girls "accidentally bumping" into me. I'm telling you guys - it is actually THAT easy once you get things straightened out.

Rough sketch:

get a nice smile. Whiten teeth.
If you are really pale get a tan.
Work out to about 180 (if you are 6 feet) so you look like you have a decent build.
Get clothes that looks good on you, but don't try to be outrageous.

Always hold eye contact and smile.
Be nice.
Be friendly.
Know why you are there for - lead the conversation towards sexual topics
Don't worry if she rejects you or runs away, there are THOUSANDS of girls around you.
Know your worth - kick her to the curb if she is limiting you
REALIZE that you are a pretty cool fvcking guy.
KNow that girls really don't want that much - just someone who cares for them a bit.
If it's not how you like it, don't do it. (if she asks for a drink, don't buy it..)
Don't treat sex as something amazing that is a goal. Treat it as something that WILL happen inveitably, but do not rush it (stress it).
Be honest with your intentions and who you are and what you want


Yeah, if you still suck with girls after reading this and you have been around here for more than 2-3 years... I don't know what the hell you doing wrong :)
 
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