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Landed a date with girl off Match.com

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Just landed a date later this week with a chic off match.com... she's like 8 years older than me and divorced, but she's sexy as hell. Petite, sze 2, long black hair. How should I handle this one? Never dated a divorced chic before. Should I bring it up?
 

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What's the benefit if you bring it up?
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
What's the benefit if you bring it up?

probably nothing... i guess I should let her bring it up.. in her profile it says she was married "very shortly"... she doesn't have kids or anything... I wonder what happened. Should I ask about it?
 

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Originally posted by Immaculate
probably nothing... i guess I should let her bring it up.. in her profile it says she was married "very shortly"... she doesn't have kids or anything... I wonder what happened. Should I ask about it?
Slow down and think about this for a moment. Again ask yourself of what benefit would it be to you. While you are at it, what if you past comes up? How are you going to handle it?

Don't get me wrong, older, divorced, with kids or not, I'm not saying that you need to be careful because of those things. I'm just pointing out that you may not be focusing on what matters. This would fall into play no matter if you met her online or at a club.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Slow down and think about this for a moment. Again ask yourself of what benefit would it be to you. While you are at it, what if you past comes up? How are you going to handle it?

Don't get me wrong, older, divorced, with kids or not, I'm not saying that you need to be careful because of those things. I'm just pointing out that you may not be focusing on what matters. This would fall into play no matter if you met her online or at a club.

True... hell I'm not even gonna bring it up.. I'm gonna pretend I didn't even know she was married cuz it really doesn't matter. I just need to make sure I make her wet during the date lol.. The best part about this is she called ME today for the date I didn't even call her.
 

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Any tips for me on this date fellas? This is my first real date since I split with my girl of 2 years.
 

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Im at the age now where i meet a majority of divorced women. In their 20's. Damn thats sad.

Dont worry about bringing it up. She will. Just be sure to side with her b/c she prolly hates his azz. All you have to worry about is treating her better than he did. Which shouldnt be to hard.

Since she was on match.com she prolly is pretty serious about a fill in. She prolly thinks she cant find a good man in her town.

Usually mature chicks dont need the gaming as much. Theyve usually grown thru that stage.

Im in the same situation (chick going thru a divorce). I treat her nicely as if she were LTR material. Not quite as much gaming. Her interest level is pretty high so far.

Chicks who have been divorced just want to be in love again.
Some of em wh*re themselves out, though.
 

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Originally posted by sexualchocolate
Im at the age now where i meet a majority of divorced women. In their 20's. Damn thats sad.

Dont worry about bringing it up. She will. Just be sure to side with her b/c she prolly hates his azz. All you have to worry about is treating her better than he did. Which shouldnt be to hard.

Since she was on match.com she prolly is pretty serious about a fill in. She prolly thinks she cant find a good man in her town.

Usually mature chicks dont need the gaming as much. Theyve usually grown thru that stage.

Im in the same situation (chick going thru a divorce). I treat her nicely as if she were LTR material. Not quite as much gaming. Her interest level is pretty high so far.

Chicks who have been divorced just want to be in love again.
Some of em wh*re themselves out, though.

This girl is 35 , i'm 26.. we'll see how it goes! Plus she's filipina, so maybe she married some schmuck for a green card and divorced him lol!
 

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Originally posted by sexualchocolate
I'll bet shes hot
Surprisingly I have been on a run of meeting women my age (give or take a couple of years) or a little older who are extremely hot. I'm talking about straight up MILFs.

The latest contacted me from another dating site and literally promised me that if I'd meet her, I wouldn't be disappointed. I thought about it for a bit because even though she lived within a hour's driving distance, she lived in another state. I don't do long distance. That and she was a couple of years beyond my age threshold. She was persistent and willing to drive over to my neck of the woods so I thought what the hell, I'd give her an hour or two of my time.

So long story short, she's a 5'7, size two dance instructor. I can live with that. She willingly comes out to see me pretty frequently and SHE brings the wine and food. Not bad. Recently she's told me that she wants to become the best lover I've ever had, I just told her to keep trying. She agreed. ;)
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Surprisingly I have been on a run of meeting women my age (give or take a couple of years) or a little older who are extremely hot. I'm talking about straight up MILFs.

The latest contacted me from another dating site and literally promised me that if I'd meet her, I wouldn't be disappointed. I thought about it for a bit because even though she lived within a hour's driving distance, she lived in another state. I don't do long distance. That and she was a couple of years beyond my age threshold. She was persistent and willing to drive over to my neck of the woods so I thought what the hell, I'd give her an hour or two of my time.

So long story short, she's a 5'7, size two dance instructor. I can live with that. She willingly comes out to see me pretty frequently and SHE brings the wine and food. Not bad. Recently she's told me that she wants to become the best lover I've ever had, I just told her to keep trying. She agreed. ;)


Here's the catch to this one guys I didn't mention. I haven't seen her pic. She says she doesn't have a scanner or any pics on her comp. She described herself to me as petite, size 2, long black hair and says she looks good so we'll see ! My ex that I still think about was a size 1 sigh :( I already posted how I screwed that one up. The thing that gets me is why is she on match.com? She works in a mall so if she's really hot why would she be on the internet lookin for a guy??
 

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Originally posted by squirrels
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Good luck.

thanks... I dunno.. I got a feeling in my gut that she's gonna be hot. My gut never lies. I'll let you know!
 

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LOL skating on thin ice :p
 

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Never accept no for an answer when internet dating, if a pic you ask for...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

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a 35 yo single woman that is attractive, something's fishy here... online dating is iffy to me since the psycho women tend to congregate on there.
 

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Originally posted by sexualchocolate
Im at the age now where i meet a majority of divorced women. In their 20's. Damn thats sad.

Dont worry about bringing it up. She will. Just be sure to side with her b/c she prolly hates his azz. All you have to worry about is treating her better than he did. Which shouldnt be to hard.

Since she was on match.com she prolly is pretty serious about a fill in. She prolly thinks she cant find a good man in her town.

Usually mature chicks dont need the gaming as much. Theyve usually grown thru that stage.

Im in the same situation (chick going thru a divorce). I treat her nicely as if she were LTR material. Not quite as much gaming. Her interest level is pretty high so far.

Chicks who have been divorced just want to be in love again.
Some of em wh*re themselves out, though.
Divorced in their 20s. That's absolutely pathetic, and sad... UGH
 

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Originally posted by Immaculate
Here's the catch to this one guys I didn't mention. I haven't seen her pic. She says she doesn't have a scanner or any pics on her comp. She described herself to me as petite, size 2, long black hair and says she looks good so we'll see ! My ex that I still think about was a size 1 sigh :( I already posted how I screwed that one up. The thing that gets me is why is she on match.com? She works in a mall so if she's really hot why would she be on the internet lookin for a guy??
HAHA you havent seen her pic? Dude, what the hell is the matter with you? It's probably some fat perverted guy. DO NOT MEET.
 

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youre gonna get raped.
 

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Originally posted by snintel
HAHA you havent seen her pic? Dude, what the hell is the matter with you? It's probably some fat perverted guy. DO NOT MEET.

We talked on the phone... it's def a chic! And she has a damn sexy voice.
 

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Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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