Ladder Theory is King

[Number_One]

if this **** worked, do you think there would be endless guys spouting theories on this forum? don't you think those guys would be too busy banging their hot girlfriends?

Good point. Monotonous isn't it? lol. My only offering is that this theory does not claim to have a solution, no grand formula that leads to the bedroom of supermodels.

 

[Mike32ct]

how often do you see that? enough of this circulator rhetoric and meaningless terms like "the matrix".

go to the park on a summer day, and observe all the couples. write down how many of them are fairly evenly matched in looks, and write down how many obviously ugly guys you see which HB9's.

you can come up with exceptiuons, but it is absolutely ridiuclous to strive be the 1% exception, rather than follow the path of the other 99%, which is be as good-looking as possible, socialize like a "normal" person, and display some kind of wealth or power or male dominance in some way.

we have a forum dedicated to following the 1% exception, if this **** worked, do you think there would be endless guys spouting theories on this forum? don't you think those guys would be too busy banging their hot girlfriends?

I don't disagree. I'm actually with you on all that. Most of the time, as men we CAN see that the guy is of comparable attractiveness to the woman. However, there are cases where the guy has features that men might find unattractive, but women find attractive.

With all due respect, I don't think guys with a lot of piercings and tattoos are hot. So I might rate that guy lower. But the HB9 he's with might love that and rate him higher. That's what I meant.

Some guys assume that means that looks don't matter. That is totally wrong.

And no, I'm not into "The Matrix" or "Take the red pill" nonsense. If I'm still in the game when I'm 60, I'm going to start taking the blue pill LOL.

 

[Jaggs]

Your theory makes no sense bro.

How do YOU Know what makes other people act "AFC and needy". ?

How do you know that HB8-10's respond the same way to every "5" . (bytchy, not replying to texts (??wtf??). Is it because they don't respond well to you, you assume that they do the same to everyone else?

The theory just plain doesn't have any groundings. Way too many variables.

 

[LostAndConfused]

Theres a whole bunch of keyboard jockeys in this thread.

 

[BetterThanBond]

ridiculous man. if you could only see who i was and who i am now(even more so than the women i date), just because of these internet message boards.

ive seen guys in their twenties who are ugly as hell, short, skinny, little runt like men, who are immature as hell and annoy the crap out of anyone....

but there hot a.s girlfriends

Single Sucks? Why?
i can sleep with whomever i want
i can do whatever i want
i stay completly focused on my goals

YOU SUCK BUDDY

what are you even doing here if you dont believe it?

 

[horaholic]

Steven Tyler- married to an HB9
Tom Petty- married to an HB9
Mick Jagger- Married to an HB9

Now tell me any of those dudes are more than a 3 on the looks scale.
Your 'theory' is blown out. And gravity is a LAW, not a theory, btw.

Lets talk science. On our planet, with exceptions, of course, males are designed to reproduce with as many females as possible. They go for the pretty ones, because it is a sign of healthy genes. This is the only thing males care about. Females are designed to choose a mate with healthy genes also. Yes they prefer genetically good looking males, but the more important things they need are: Protection, Security, Strength, Being a leader, or alpha, and Ability to provide. As human beings, we can possess many of those traits, while not having looks, and we will get women. Hell, we dont need any of those traits at all, as long as we make the female FEEL like we do.

 

[Number_One]

those ugly, boss eyed, fat, poor dudes I have witnessed with the really pretty girls

People always say things like this on the forum.

What reality is this? I've never, ever seen this in my whole life. YOu really see ugly dudes with hot chicks? When?

I've never seen this and kind of wonder what you are talking about. Does anybody else live in the UK? whats your take?

 

[Number_One]

Yeah, I was hating and that is stupid. I was stressed at work and irritated because I was an above average looking guy in my 20's and I was the biggest AFC you could imagine. It is embarrassing. I was getting dumped by fatties, and some women would of described me as creepy. Now, today I'm not some super stud, but get a steady supply of really hot ***** on the 8-9 scale. Yet I am 16 years older, heavier, some wrinkles, and my teeth aren't as nice. Basically I am a lot worse looking physically, but women have never found me more attractive.

Ah hah, very interesting, thanks for the good input, I like it

 

[Number_One]

YOU SUCK BUDDY

what are you even doing here if you dont believe it?

hah, well, yeah..you suck too

By the way, having people criticise and attempt to overthrow the common belief is essential in science !! It keeps it fresh and can throw new light on things. So be glad to have me around.

 

[SinJester]

I haven't read the thread but...

I think ladder theory is bull.

Consider this. The remember the girl I am currently dating telling me a year ago "I would kiss you but I'm not attracted to you". Now we're going out.

I haven't changed physically at all. I weigh practically the same and even have the same damn haircut.

Explain that.

 

[MisterMcGee]

Explain girls going out with guys in their social circles after knowing each other for a year or whatnot.
It is COMMON in highschool and college.

 

[Solomon]

Theres a whole bunch of keyboard jockeys in this thread.

Word, lol

This thread basically is exposing the guys who know whats what from the fake

peace

 

[Number_One]

To rephrase my original point:

My observations show that relatively ugly chicks are easy and want to have a commited relationship with me.
My observations show that relatively hot chicks are difficult and just not interested romantically.


That is ladder theory in a nutshell. Interesting that such a simple premise is met with almost universal denial, or that no-one else has found the same.

 

[L777]

You guys should check out Soul. He's a coach with lovesystems and he does daygame.

He's not tall, white or goodlooking, yet clearly gets laid by beautiful women, hence his position in the company....also check out the videos.

http://www.lovesystems.com/soul/

 

[Number_One]

Yeah, you would be referring to the ladder theory website. I dont believe those piecharts at all. I'd say that women base their attraction on looks 90% and everything else 10% max. In my original post I just simplified and based it 100% arounfd looks.

The two ladders...this is rubbish too. The friend ladder is simply the bottom half of the real ladder, the guys who she does not rate high enough to have sex with.

Guys have a ladder based on looks, girls have a ladder based on looks.

You know, women think that we men are complicated creatures,l but we're not are we. Neither are they, women are simpler than you guys will ever believe.

 

[L777]

^^^ Check my post above your's dude. Looks mean very little - you just don't have game.

 

[Warrior74]

You guys gotta remember. Most people in the UK are butt ugly. So its not really like the hot girls there have a lot to choose from! Don't hate, you know its true! LOL.

 

[SinJester]

I think it's silly to discount looks entirely but a lot of scientific research has PROVED women don't value looks as much as men.

Some books you might want to read:

The Red Queen
The Evolution Of Desire
Mating Intelligence
The Female Brain

 

[Number_One]

To rephrase my original point:

My observations show that relatively ugly chicks are easy and want to have a commited relationship with me.
My observations show that relatively hot chicks are difficult and just not interested romantically.

That is ladder theory in a nutshell. Interesting that such a simple premise is met with almost universal denial, or that no-one else has found the same.

Everybodys still avoiding answering the question of do you agree or disagree with this simple fact.