"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lack of success is making me bitter and depressed

actionjaxson

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in high school lots of girls liked me but i was too shy to talk to any of them. ever since college started i feel like i dont get attention from girls anymore, i dont get smiles or checked out anymore, rejected at clubs, online dating, craigslist, etc. my friends get laid all the time while i struggle just to get a number. im still a virgin.

i admit the only time i really approach is at clubs. i havent made any day approaches but if a girl doesnt give me a sign i feel like i shouldnt even talk to her so i dont do anything. but even when i do get a sign im still too scared to do anything. i dont know what to do anymore.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Clash113

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I'm in the same position as you man, same exact one and i'm pissed
 

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First of all, Clash and ActionJaxson, WTF are you doing about it? AFAIK you're still moping around on your ass. Get out of this god damn funk if you plan on approaching or you WILL be rejected!

real2 said:
Your inner-game is what gets rejected in the nightclubs. Girls will see right through your fluff.

All the time!

Smoke some weed, talk to your "inner game", and tell it to shape the fvck up :up:

You wish.

And when I mean talk to your inner game, I don't mean metaphorically speaking.

When high, our self-conscious becomes very impressionable (ie. you can become even more of a *****, or become godly confident).


You can do without getting high.

And as far as "just do more approaches, build your confidence, talk to people", I found this to be one of the more unconventional, but appropriate approaches to improving yourself :up:

Tough, but it works!
 

Warrior74

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Leave the weed alone. Especially if it puts you even more in your head than you already are.

You guys have to remember that success is built on small steps. You don't become a millionaire overnight. You don't get a degree overnight. You don't get good with women and you don't raise your self esteem/confidence overnight. You do it in small steps.

Just start out speaking to people and smiling. Saying hi, starting small conversations. Putting yourself out there.


You guys need to do the bootcamp. Do it together just to the two of you and keep a journal of your progress.


You know the basics...I'll copy and paste it.
I would say post pictures of you in your best gear. Your club gear, your day game gear, etc. That way you can get feedback on your haircut, your clothing style,your shoes. Your glasses, the way you smile and your body language. All of that counts. If you know it needs work, fix it. If you know you need your teeth cleaned/whitened, get it done.

Hit the gym at least 3x per week. Start eating cleaner food. If you need to loose weight, start loosing it, if you need to gain, start gaining. Go over to www.bodybuilding.com, great workout and forums there.

Find out who you are. What are you goals? What are you ambitions in life? What is your passion? What are you doing to reach those goals and dreams? .

What sort of women do you want? Write down in your progress thread your ideal type of woman. Are you the sort of man who deserves that woman? Be honest with yourself. If you aren't, become him, if you are, go get her!

If you are not willing to do the work, then nothing will change for you. Good luck.
 
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