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[SmooveMooves]

There are those who are sheep and those who herd said sheep.

Which one are you?

There has been a faction war going on recently. Before, the manosphere was just one collective group, however, now it has been divided into many sub-classes and a mental masturbation epidemic has surfaced in which groups crusade against each other shooting there idea juices at each others faces.

Which is the true representation of the RED PILL? It it MGTOW? Mens Rights? DJs?

Roosh has recognized the stupidity of these group wars and has denounced the Red Pill group as a whole, only to.... Start another manosphere group... Which will... Continue the war against the now denounced Red Pill. His followers as the troops in which he leads.

Society has conditioned men to make them want to belong to a group. Make them feel they need to fit in. That you need to stand for something. Modern men get some sort of power from saying I'm MGTOW! or I'm Men's Rights!

Time to drop the labels

The manosphere has a set of ideals for men, by men, for the good of men, that CHANGES LIFES. I know first hand, my life has improved 100 fold. You don't need to conform to some organization to achieve this. You don't need to be a member of MGTOW or Modern Masculinity. Conforming to ideals and standards set by ANOTHER MAN.

Brothers, I write this post because I want to encourage you to build. In just 3 months time I'm starting ventures of my own, beginning to build. A man is what he has and when its all said and done he should have an empire. Don't conform to a group: BUILD YOUR OWN.

I understand that everyone is not a leader and some are comfortable working for someone elses goals or ideas. But, that doesn't sound right to me.

So again I say.

There are sheep and those who herd said sheep.

Are you on the inside or outside of the gate?

 

[jurry]

The forum has been great for the past week or so, mods did a good job cleaning it up, no idiotic mgtow or alpha/beta threads spanning ten pages.

Dont ruin it!

 

[SmooveMooves]

In other words, go your own way?

No. Forge your own path. You shouldn't have to belong to a group of people going there own way to do so.

 

[SmooveMooves]

The forum has been great for the past week or so, mods did a good job cleaning it up, no idiotic mgtow or alpha/beta threads spanning ten pages.

Dont ruin it!

I meant this post to serve as inspiration to build your own thing or philosophy and not to conform to a label or leader.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I'm neither. I don't follow a group nor create my own. I have my own set ideals and beliefs uprooted within me because of my experiences. I guess if you were to compare me to a metaphor, I would be that one stray sheep that doesn't herd OR follow a herd. I wouldn't consider myself MGTOW either because they are a group themselves and [generally] opt out of the system AS A WHOLE. I consider that ignorant and I consider [most] of them weak.

Nondenominational I guess lol.

What I consider to be red pill IS the entire manosphere itself. But I consider the manosphere to describe forums/communities such as SoSuave and Reddit's subreddit as well as MGTOW's website. However, what I consider to be red pill is a person or idea that portrays the knowledge about women and how they 'work/are' and freedom from them and people in general. It's hard to describe in words because I view this kind of stuff in a very qualitative manner, but you get my point.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Oh yeah and you misspelled this:

...that CHANGES LIFES. I...

It's actually 'LIVES'. Just so you know. :woo:

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

This is actually a very pertinent piece by Smoove; I actually wrote a piece on another forum a few years back regarding the tirade of Islamophobia that arose after some nut-job (who just happened to be Muslim) went on a rampage through East London and massacred a soldier in broad daylight. Think my exact metaphor was sheep and wolves, but same difference.

Personally, I am red-pill, but in the wider social context of the metaphor, which is largely misunderstood as a comparison to alpha (red) and beta (blue), as far as I can see. There are some good writers in the sphere that do understand and narrate the wider context in conjunction with attraction.

(The) Game/Pick-up, though ground-breaking are somewhat antiquated now and, at least in this country, women are well and truly on the way to recognising 'techniques' in the traditional sense. There is still a lot of worth in some of the underlying theory though.

The limited familiarity I have of MGTOW - well, it seems 'MGTOW (until it's time to get laid)'. Many seem to not be going their own way at all, rather just affronting the 'nasty feminists' (in one way). As I say, the best way to deal with a spoilt child is to ignore.

Roosh, well he talks sense. But seems like a horny little f*cker who dedicates his whole existence to pursuing women. Which in fairness is maybe an example that men of this generation need... just not in such an all-consuming fashion - slightly beta. Though may be unfair as again I am not overly familiar.

I could go on. But two points of conclusion:

1) Some people are wolves, some are sheep, some are sheep dogs. Pack mentality is life throughout human nature and not limited to gender relations. Some people (usually men) actually prefer to really go their own way and don't know anything else (wolves), the majority follow (sheep), and some lead (sheep dogs).

2) Any ideology or guy that decries the entire race of women is as bad as any aggressive feminist and frankly comes across as butt hurt. I have absolutely no time for that.

In the true spirit on red-pill living, I don't want my own group, nor do I belong to any one group or ideal in particular. I pick and choose bits and pieces that I like and don't really worry about it too much.

 

[SmooveMooves]

In the true spirit on red-pill living, I don't want my own group, nor do I belong to any one group or ideal in particular. I pick and choose bits and pieces that I like and don't really worry about it too much.

By picking and choosing bits and pieces that fit your lifestyle you are in turn creating you own philosophy.

All I'm saying with this post is be a leader and not a follower.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

By picking and choosing bits and pieces that fit your lifestyle you are in turn creating you own philosophy.

All I'm saying with this post is be a leader and not a follower.

Precisely. Couldn't agree more. You can tell there are many leaders and even more potential leaders of men in this joint. A lot of them just don't realise it, or simply aren't old enough yet.