Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
Well, the man who stood up to them that night, just went on tv and apologized to the "Afro-Americans".Nobody said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Kramer from Seinfeld is a racist sh¡t?
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
PeterNorthisawesome
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I wish they showed what the bunch of ppl that attacked him said I heard they said he wasn't funny or something and if I was a starting stand up I would be pretty annoyed. I think he went a bit too far by calling ppl N*ggers but the black ppl called him cr*cker so I guess it's even. I just don't like how ppl especially black people think it's always offensive when a non-black person say the word N*gger. It seems that ppl are allowed to call other minorities like Chinese ppl ch*nks and Japanese J*ps and seem to get away with it much easly. I saw this guy use J*p in the history channel but I never seen anyone use the word n*gger on the channel! So yea ppl especially black ppl need to suck it up it's just a word and it was over 200 years ago DO YOU SEE JAPANESE PPL COMPLAINING ABOUT AMERICANS AFTER WWII... NO!
THE_ADDMAN
Master Don Juan
yes, I think blacks are too over sensitive bout it. they often refer to white people as "cracka" or "white boy", which are racist, and they use it all the time, not caring about it.
Kramer has been going downhill since the end of seinfeld, and I think this was one of his first times doing stand-up. he wasnt used to dealing with hecklers and he lost it. those people should have not provoked him though.
Kramer has been going downhill since the end of seinfeld, and I think this was one of his first times doing stand-up. he wasnt used to dealing with hecklers and he lost it. those people should have not provoked him though.
Gangster Of Love
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Are you black???PeterNorthisawesome said:I wish they showed what the bunch of ppl that attacked him said I heard they said he wasn't funny or something and if I was a starting stand up I would be pretty annoyed. I think he went a bit too far by calling ppl N*ggers but the black ppl called him cr*cker so I guess it's even. I just don't like how ppl especially black people think it's always offensive when a non-black person say the word N*gger. It seems that ppl are allowed to call other minorities like Chinese ppl ch*nks and Japanese J*ps and seem to get away with it much easly. I saw this guy use J*p in the history channel but I never seen anyone use the word n*gger on the channel! So yea ppl especially black ppl need to suck it up it's just a word and it was over 200 years ago DO YOU SEE JAPANESE PPL COMPLAINING ABOUT AMERICANS AFTER WWII... NO!
Between 1500 and 1800, a number of words were coined as insults. Most notably, the term "Yankee" (c. 1683) was a name originally and offensively applied to Dutch settlers in what is now New York. The term was a word of contempt through the 1750s; however, in the 1760s the term was embraced as the name for natives of New England. During the American Revolution, the British took hold of the terms and used it to disparagingly refer to all American natives and inhabitants.
In 1755, British Army surgeon Dr. Richard Schuckburgh wrote a song titled "Yankee Doodle". Not only did the original verses mock colonial troops, but the name itself referred to "American Prick". The song became popular among British troops and I believe the song was also used as a march. After the colonials started to turn the tides of war, the colonials assumed ownership of the song, rewrote the lyrics, and bandied the song about as a victory prize. The colonials assumed the terms "Yankee", "Yank", and "Yankee Doodle" as badges of honor. They transformed what was once an insult into a mark of distinction.
Why haven't African-Americans reversed the meaning of "those words" to which Michael Richards refers? The n-word is attested from 1568 in the Scottish and northern English dialect. Yet, the word was often used without offense because black inferiority was at one time nearly universal. The word was also used to reference dark-skinned natives of India, Australia, and Polynesia by English settlers.
The Black Power movement in the late 1960s actually did reverse the meaning of the n-word. The movement suggested "soul" and "style" with the application of the word. Interestingly, the terms "niggah" and "nigga" are attested from 1925 and 1969 respectively as words isolated to usage by blacks in reference to themselves. The term "nigra" attested from 1944 is actually more derogatory than the n-word in some circles.
Yet, despite the extraordinary leaps and bounds that have been allowed to blacks by the Civil Rights movement, "there are still those words" as Michael Richards said. At the slightest whisper, some folks will be set off. Indeed, the n-word is actually not offensive to all blacks when used by anyone. To claim otherwise is inherently racist.
Thick skin is an American tradition. It would be nice if Americans, such as those hecklers in the audience and the NAACP leaders on CNN, would grow thick skin. How can you preach advancement when you are constantly burying your head in the past?
In 1755, British Army surgeon Dr. Richard Schuckburgh wrote a song titled "Yankee Doodle". Not only did the original verses mock colonial troops, but the name itself referred to "American Prick". The song became popular among British troops and I believe the song was also used as a march. After the colonials started to turn the tides of war, the colonials assumed ownership of the song, rewrote the lyrics, and bandied the song about as a victory prize. The colonials assumed the terms "Yankee", "Yank", and "Yankee Doodle" as badges of honor. They transformed what was once an insult into a mark of distinction.
Why haven't African-Americans reversed the meaning of "those words" to which Michael Richards refers? The n-word is attested from 1568 in the Scottish and northern English dialect. Yet, the word was often used without offense because black inferiority was at one time nearly universal. The word was also used to reference dark-skinned natives of India, Australia, and Polynesia by English settlers.
The Black Power movement in the late 1960s actually did reverse the meaning of the n-word. The movement suggested "soul" and "style" with the application of the word. Interestingly, the terms "niggah" and "nigga" are attested from 1925 and 1969 respectively as words isolated to usage by blacks in reference to themselves. The term "nigra" attested from 1944 is actually more derogatory than the n-word in some circles.
Yet, despite the extraordinary leaps and bounds that have been allowed to blacks by the Civil Rights movement, "there are still those words" as Michael Richards said. At the slightest whisper, some folks will be set off. Indeed, the n-word is actually not offensive to all blacks when used by anyone. To claim otherwise is inherently racist.
Thick skin is an American tradition. It would be nice if Americans, such as those hecklers in the audience and the NAACP leaders on CNN, would grow thick skin. How can you preach advancement when you are constantly burying your head in the past?
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Both sides are wrong, difference being, one is being held accountable for it, while the other gets off the hook. That doesn't seem awfully fair to me.
Isn't it funny one side gets all the flack, whilst still having apologize, while the non-apologetic one gets no focus at all? This type of Political Correctness BS is what intensifies racial bigotry. Do you think Michael Richards will be more racist if they apologized or if they don't?
Isn't it funny one side gets all the flack, whilst still having apologize, while the non-apologetic one gets no focus at all? This type of Political Correctness BS is what intensifies racial bigotry. Do you think Michael Richards will be more racist if they apologized or if they don't?
seanchai
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Agree. You can't build external respect for your group by b¡tching about oppression all the time. But that sure as hell doesn't mean oppression doesn't exist.Demon said:Thick skin is an American tradition. It would be nice if Americans, such as those hecklers in the audience and the NAACP leaders on CNN, would grow thick skin. How can you preach advancement when you are constantly burying your head in the past?
diablo
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While this is an interesting subject, threads regarding racism and politics are not allowed on this forum. Here is a link to several thousand forums where this talk is allowed, and there is an active "Kramer the racist" discussion going on.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kramer+racist+forum
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kramer+racist+forum
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