"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Knowing when to approach?

tobby

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I'm pretty green when it comes to picking up and the game, so if this sounds like a stupid question then sorry, but when do you guys know when to approach? Is it just a random moment in front of people? Do you wait until the object of interest is alone? I just want to know when you guys actually get out there and approach?

Also, I don't know if it's the college environment or girls have become more *****y, but I don't see guys approaching girls around my campus much? I know somehow people are dating other people, but when are they actually doing this stuff? :confused:
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I'm not really an experienced approacher (yet), but I know that it's generally a bad idea to pounce on her when she's alone.

Charm the group (to get their approval. this is a BIG ONE), neg her lightly, then isolate. Pretty much the MM summarized lol
 

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I'd say for you it would be good to read the DJ bible and the mystery method, regardless of what anyone else tells you here. Mystery covers approaches very well, and most of the advice you'll get here somehow stems from these techniques. Beware of the canned stuff. I dont recommend it.

I always advise to be observant and look for a good opportunity to approach that will be more natural than using canned stuff from Mystery. If you pay attention you'll find opportunity.

ex. on campus you might see a girl looking at the advertisement board for events etc. perfect opportunity. Make a comment about something on the board.
 

DonJoseCantosie

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Vice said:
I'm not really an experienced approacher (yet), but I know that it's generally a bad idea to pounce on her when she's alone.
When u get experience approaching...u might start to agree with me on this. It is generally a better idea to approach girls who are alone. Why?

1) Lack of Distractions-She'll be more focused on u than if she was with a group
2) Lack of spreading attention-Ur focus of attention is on her, hence its easier to interact for urself.
3) Lack of Groupthink-The girl won't have to hold back if she truly is interested and doesn't have to think "What do my friends think right now?"

Its much much easier to approach a lone girl than a group. Best to start small then work ur way up.

Charm the group (to get their approval. this is a BIG ONE), neg her lightly, then isolate. Pretty much the MM summarized lol
Now onto the "Get their approval"...with this idea...u are putting them on a pedastal because this view is "I have to get their approval to talk to her". Nonsense. You have every right to go up to whoever woman/girl u want(Within reason). You don't have to charm anyone BUT the girl u want to talk to(being a seducer type charm...not an entertainer). Even if u neg a girl, that still doesn't guarantee that she'll like u. Why not be playful/naturally witty instead? It comes naturally when u sense it...rather than "Trying" to be funny by busting on her. Negs aside, u still got to talk to her(rapport).

I always advise to be observant and look for a good opportunity to approach that will be more natural than using canned stuff from Mystery. If you pay attention you'll find opportunity.

ex. on campus you might see a girl looking at the advertisement board for events etc. perfect opportunity. Make a comment about something on the board.
Exactly...no need for canned stuff. Sure, its good for training wheels to get out there if ur terribly afraid....BUT u def don't need them. Situational stuff is good, or u can even try just going direct. Revealing that u like the girl and am going to talk to her in a confident, unapologetic, charming manner. The effect of the girl will be them being taken back/not know what to say. Thats good because it means its powerful as they'll have this excited look in their eyes ;-).

But to answer the thread starter's question:
When do you guys know when to approach?
When u first look at her, and then in ur head u know u like what u see. Thats when u go over to her.
 

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Approaches are random. Approaching solo or in groups cater to different skillsets - IE the latter will get you ****blocked if you don't know how to work the group. I usually approach girls who are solo and open by making a comment about where their attention is at.

You can do one of 2 ways...

You can approach EVERY girl that looks good w/out discrimination.

Or you can try to read the girl for interest and only approach the ones that seem interested.

Either way it's not that big a deal. The approach is only the first step and is pointless w/out whatever comes after.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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