No and I don't plan to, ever. But I don't want to get off topic.Francisco d'Anconia said:Have you ever been to the states?
Anyway, what you want to say is that it is even worse than I think? (AFC-wise)
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
No and I don't plan to, ever. But I don't want to get off topic.Francisco d'Anconia said:Have you ever been to the states?
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Hicks wouldn't have GNP growth almost as high as ChinaDanelMadr said:Eastern Europeans are bunch of hicks.
You have no idea in comparison. It's not completely the fault of the guys though, it's has a lot to do with how most of the women here expect to be approached. A lot of guys sacrifice a portion of themselves in hopes to attract a woman, any woman. Scary stuff.arlanda said:No and I don't plan to, ever. But I don't want to get off topic.
Anyway, what you want to say is that it is even worse than I think? (AFC-wise)
Yeah, a vicious one. This is the drawback when people depend on being a part of the masses; everyone doing the same thing as everyone else mostly just to fit in. More times than not the few that step outside of the norm are denounced for being different. It's messed up that people have to decide between being accepted by the masses or going for what they truly want.PlasticSurgeon said:What a weird negative cycle. Can't we all just get along and fvck?
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Don't fall into the social conditioning trap, so longs your not being a creep and congruent about it then you can get away with alot. I have intense eye contact with women I don't try to hide my sexuality for nothing.Francisco d'Anconia said:Now doing that here in the States can quickly get you a lawsuit.
I've had way too many women tell me about being approached at work by a guy and ended up going to HR because they didn't want his advances. Now given there were some who were creepy but many were from compliments that were misinterpreted. None the less, the guy gets written up just for giving a compliment.Distant Light said:Don't fall into the social conditioning trap, so longs your not being a creep and congruent about it then you can get away with alot. I have intense eye contact with women I don't try to hide my sexuality for nothing.
The average Italian man is smaller than the average American. I was riding with some of the cyclist over there and they were calling me a "Fat American." I'm 5'11 and 170lbs (1.8 meters and 75 kilos). The guys my height weighed about 140-145lbs (about 63 kilos). The guys who were even taller than me weighed less than I did! I know we cyclist are notorious for being light but damn, those Italians were like insects.Deadly_Assassin said:I live in Auckland, New Zealand. The ratio of guys to girls over here is 5:1. So the guys have a lot of competition and the girls love being stuck up cos they know theres plenty of attention to bask in. Anyway, I had a friend who came back from Europe. She said the guys are skinny in Italy compared to other guys in Europe. Is it true?
Personally I hate men that look at me like that. Makes me feel like a piece of meat. I much prefer American guys who show they like you but discreetly. It is a lot more subtle and sensual than guys ogling at your boobs and salivating.Francisco d'Anconia said:Typically European men look at women as beautiful sex objects without hiding it, that's about it. Now doing that here in the States can quickly get you a lawsuit. Women here are typically uptight about being objectified so guys usually hide their feelings, but visit a country like Italy, Spain or Brazil and it's like night and day.
Here's the thing, men abroad aren't necessarily letches, they are actually much more conversational than most men over here. It's just they still understand the old world idea of romance.lone star said:Personally I hate men that look at me like that. Makes me feel like a piece of meat. I much prefer American guys who show they like you but discreetly. It is a lot more subtle and sensual than guys ogling at your boobs and salivating.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
I am European so I know exactly how this feels. The flowers and s*** don't mean anything. It is a coverup. Most man there are macho type and after the flowers they usually want sex to recover their botanical investment or don't have much to offer apart from the flowers, parfum and truffle boxes. I much rather have a nice honest man who shows me respect and intelligence than a bunch of useless stuff given by a macho man. After all, it is the guy you get in the end, not the stuff.Francisco d'Anconia said:Here's the thing, men abroad aren't necessarily letches, they are actually much more conversational than most men over here. It's just they still understand the old world idea of romance.
Where the typical American guy stops off at roses and a dinner at a fancy restaurant for his love interest, in Europe that's barely the beginning. There's stimulating conversation, dancing, music, serenades, many of the things that women here just read in romance novels. Women who are seduced abroad know in no uncertain terms that they are being pursued and without a single sighting of any saliva.
Alright, you've proven that you aren't an American woman. :flowers:lone star said:I am European so I know exactly how this feels. The flowers and s*** don't mean anything. It is a coverup. Most man there are macho type and after the flowers they usually want sex to recover their botanical investment or don't have much to offer apart from the flowers, parfum and truffle boxes. I much rather have a nice honest man who shows me respect and intelligence than a bunch of useless stuff given by a macho man. After all, it is the guy you get in the end, not the stuff.
myspace :crackup: dude, 90% of those are spoiled immigrants who moved to the west and have false images of what life is like where they were born. that is why they only want "ukraine" guys. all immigrant young people seem to feel that way about where they were born these days. little do they know why their families got out. ukraine totally sucks for 99% of the girls that live there. don't tell me that it is a nice place to grow up unless your daddy is a gangster. i have spent enough time there to know that it isn't. very nice place if you are from the west, but $3000 a year isn't enough to sustain a decent lifestyle.Babnik said:Did you just take this out of your butt-hole? I'm from the Ukraine and I live with many Russian and Ukrainian girls. First of all, each one of those girls can't have a relationship with ANY American dude. Second, if you even check out MySpace, they are EXCLUSIVELY into Ukrainian guys (especially those who are in America). Russian guys in USA get a LOT of p*ssy...
I would say Russian guys are MOST confident when it comes to women. And Russin women who marry Americans do it SOLELY for the money but you were silly enough to believe otherwise when they said so. Its not like any man wants to hear that he got a woman because he is rich. Also, AFC types get married on Russian women because they can't be DJ enough to get American girls.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You have no idea what you like or dislike. You probably intellectually dislike it but your vagina probably tells a different story.lone star said:Personally I hate men that look at me like that. Makes me feel like a piece of meat. I much prefer American guys who show they like you but discreetly. It is a lot more subtle and sensual than guys ogling at your boobs and salivating.
Blah blah blah. We want sex. There's nothing wrong with that. Women try to make us feel bad for it like we're supposed to worship you and if we dare bring up sex we're evil and it's all we want. Some of us it's all we want and there's nothing wrong with that. The rest of us want that AND something more. But i'm not going to wait 3 months or whatever crazy notion women have in order to MAYBE get laid. To hell with that. Women are first and foremost there to have sex with. That's the whole damn point of two genders. If you were there just to be friends with you'd be a man and be capable of telling a funny joke.I am European so I know exactly how this feels. The flowers and s*** don't mean anything. It is a coverup. Most man there are macho type and after the flowers they usually want sex to recover their botanical investment or don't have much to offer apart from the flowers, parfum and truffle boxes. I much rather have a nice honest man who shows me respect and intelligence than a bunch of useless stuff given by a macho man. After all, it is the guy you get in the end, not the stuff.
I'm from Odessa...and I think you were hanging out with the wrong crowd there, man. Seriously...I can't even find common language with American girls, EVEN THOUGH they all think its SO cool that I'm from the Ukraine and blah blah...and same thing with Russian girls who live in US. They can't understand Americans at all. Thats worthy girls anyway...we do have prostitutes and utter airheaded sluts...sparky0000 said:myspace :crackup: dude, 90% of those are spoiled immigrants who moved to the west and have false images of what life is like where they were born. that is why they only want "ukraine" guys. all immigrant young people seem to feel that way about where they were born these days. little do they know why their families got out. ukraine totally sucks for 99% of the girls that live there. don't tell me that it is a nice place to grow up unless your daddy is a gangster. i have spent enough time there to know that it isn't. very nice place if you are from the west, but $3000 a year isn't enough to sustain a decent lifestyle.
i suspect that you live in the west now. you would know about the myspace equivalents for russians/ukraines/latvians/lithuanians/estonians/belorussians. some of the sites overlap. if you are from odessa you don't create a myspace account. i find such places to be not needed. i am lazy when it comes to girls. creating an account and pasting pictures would take time that could be spent watching pod'yom & karina M. videos. heard their christmas song? warms my soul.
russian guys in the usa? not too many of them. most russians who recently immigrated to the usa (last 20 years) are actually jewish people who don't like russians. russian immigrants have a bad reputation in the usa. quite a few polish people in chicago these days though :crackup:
hate to inform you, but girls all over the world want guys who are (1) wealthy (2) exotic/different (3) important. if you fit these 3 categories you are tops. you can look like a dog, it doesn't matter. in america i am batting 0 for 3. i am not even in the ballpark. in the cis/baltic nations i am 3 for 3. a superstar of sorts. just how the game works. :cheer: if you were a real russian you would want to know that you got girls because you were rich. being rich is something to be proud of in that part of the world. guys flaunt their wealth in obscene ways over there. black rap stars can't out bling them. you have spent too much in the west my friend. forgot how your people really think.
don't place me in the same pot as losers who sign up for brides. i don't want a bride yet. i don't leave for girls. the girls are f***** awesome. don't get me wrong, but they are not the main reason leave.
1) Right. I have no idea what I like or dislike. Now this is interesting. Somebody else knows better than me how I feel. :crackup:mrRuckus said:You have no idea what you like or dislike. You probably intellectually dislike it but your vagina probably tells a different story.
Blah blah blah. We want sex. There's nothing wrong with that. Women try to make us feel bad for it like we're supposed to worship you and if we dare bring up sex we're evil and it's all we want. Some of us it's all we want and there's nothing wrong with that. The rest of us want that AND something more. But i'm not going to wait 3 months or whatever crazy notion women have in order to MAYBE get laid. To hell with that. Women are first and foremost there to have sex with. That's the whole damn point of two genders. If you were there just to be friends with you'd be a man and be capable of telling a funny joke.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.