"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Knocking her off her pedestal: Why it doesnt work!

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For all of you who dont know me, I'm Matt, a close friend of Oxide on this site. He knows me and how I'll have a new girl almost everynight over the week over this past winter break and I banged most of them so listen up.

Knocking a girl off her pedestal (a HB 10) will not work! Want to know the simple reason? If a woman like that is being swarmed with guys worshipping her, she enjoys that! It boosts her ego and makes her think shes too good for almost any guy. So why would she take some mediocre looking guy from this site who's quieter and remains "mysterious"? Fact is she'll think your a chump who doesnt know how to talk to girls and she'll move back to her worshippers!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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well of course if you are quiet then this will happen but it is not about being quite it is not about not aproching, there are plenty of those who are to scared to approch. You must aporch or she will not even know you exist, you will be invisible from behind the curtain of worshippers.

so do approch but the point is, you are the prize do not talk to her as if you are lucky to be talking to her and that you are in love with her.

You must focus attention on yourself, make yourself out to be all that and that you really do not care that she is HB 9.9, if she is really stuck up insert neghit here, but you can and should knock her off her pederstal, yes of course the way you mentioned will not work, but thats also not he way you should be doing it.

you have to get her attention instead of giving her yours.

but i do not mean that in a needy way either.

with a girl like this some guys will not talk to her some will worship her, but she has no guys talking to her that do not worship her, so you have to be that guy.

as an example if that HB9.9 calls you over whilst you are talking to HB7 well you are not her puppy you do not need to go up to her because she asked you to, so you stick with HB7, if she wants to talk to you she has to come to you.
 

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knocking them off thier pepdestal works for me.


so what ever:)
 

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Originally posted by nan3109
For all of you who dont know me, I'm Matt, a close friend of Oxide on this site. He knows me and how I'll have a new girl almost everynight over the week over this past winter break and I banged most of them so listen up.

Knocking a girl off her pedestal (a HB 10) will not work! Want to know the simple reason? If a woman like that is being swarmed with guys worshipping her, she enjoys that! It boosts her ego and makes her think shes too good for almost any guy. So why would she take some mediocre looking guy from this site who's quieter and remains "mysterious"? Fact is she'll think your a chump who doesnt know how to talk to girls and she'll move back to her worshippers!
Oooooh. Big man is 19 now and he's banged some girls. Please. By the tone of your post you don't get it, so why comment?
 

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Matt, you don't have to include information about your sex life to try to tell us that you qualify to give us advice. It doesn't do anything.

Knocking a girl off her pedastal doesn't work, you say. And being a quiet mysterious guy doesn't work either, you also say.

How are those interrelated at all?

Knocking her off her pedastal isn't about being quiet and mysterious. What the hell kinda pedastal was she on to begin with to be able to be knocked over by that kinda guy.

Knocking a girl off her pedastal is bringing her back down to eye level. What makes her better than you? Her breasts and sex appeal? Then my man, you've already given in way too early.

What knocking a girl off her pedastal is about is not worshipping her for doing nothing but standing around and looking pretty. My God, what kind of man are you? She does nothing for you, and you want to give her everything. Might as well give her your car keys, your ATM and your PIN number and hope she falls in love with you. While you're at it, chop off your balls and put them into a to-go box for her take home.

You treat a woman like a princess, she isn't going to treat you like a prince. She'll treat you like a servant. And servants never get laid.

You have a sense of false logic here.

1) Women like to be worshipped
2) If you don't worship her, you won't get anything
3) If you do worship her, she won't think you're a chump.

Fuck yes, she will think you're a chump. You're worshipping her based on her looks alone. She has not proved herself to you. She hasn't done anything to make herself worthy to sleep with you. She hasn't done jack shit but been a beautiful woman. And you want to worship that? Guy, I think you're a chump for giving in like that.

You know who beautiful women date and have sex with every night? Not the loser chump who gives her everything. The confident masculine dominant figure who knows what he's doing. Whether it be the asshole, the jerk, or the Don Juan. And most definitely not the REAL chump who worships her day and night JUST BECAUSE she likes it. Try making her do something you like for her to do for a change.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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THIS might come as a bs post, but.......

I dont overvalue dem ho's

who cares if she's a hb 20.5
 

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It may work with younger women, they like attention and are too uncertain about wanting a DJ. Basically they usually feel that more attention is better.

So where's Oxide?
 

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at mankato uni.
 

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A lot of women I know do admit to loving attention, and say they are more likely to fall for a guy shows her attention. Hell, I used to be like that myself. A few compliments and I was anybody's. :)

But you can show a woman attention without putting her on a pedestal. You just have to make sure you don't humble yourself in her presence.

Another thing to remember is that withdrawing the attention after some time can be very powerful! It stops her taking it for granted.
 

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Dj giveth, and he taketh away.


I banged most of them so listen up.
Ahh appeal to authority, you are pook-esque in my book now.

First of all, you wont have to knock a woman off her pedestal IF you dont put her on one in the first place.

Secondly;

So why would she take some mediocre looking guy from this site who's quieter and remains "mysterious"?
You are missing the entire idea of mystery and challenge.

I wont even bother telling you to read the DJ bible, because you probably help write it... :rolleyes:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by Jariel
A lot of women I know do admit to loving attention, and say they are more likely to fall for a guy shows her attention. Hell, I used to be like that myself. A few compliments and I was anybody's. :)
Of course you would, you're a guy, you don't get it as much as an attractive woman.

If it were that easy, getting laid would be as simple as saying "OMG OMG YOU'RE SO HOTT." ect.
 

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Originally posted by nan3109
For all of you who dont know me, I'm Matt
Arent you the narcissist chump with the ginger hair and a totally deluded self-image? Yeah, Ive seen you around:rolleyes:
 
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I don't agree with you, because I have seen girls knocked off theire pedestals by some of my friends...it might not work all the time...but let me tell you...it works VERY, VERY, VERY often. I've seen it work in college, at the fraternity house, at the bar, at house parties...i think its one of the best tools a DJ can have. Of course it has to be done right...you go up to a girl and tactlessly say "hey you sure look like a ***** with that top" yeah yer prolly gonna be slapped around.
 

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TurboOverCubicInches,

Boost: The only replacement for displacement.

-Carry on.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Well nan, what do you propose?
 
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