"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
knocked up a girl i've only known 3 months
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I still say if a woman chooses to get pregnant and have a baby then it's her responsibility to do it with a male that wants a baby and wants to be with her, or it's her responsibility to find some other male that is willing to act as a father. If she can't/doesn't do this and can't be a good feminist and "woman up"and support her child, then she's a failure and her and her progeny suffer. That's life. Oh yeah, that's right society never holds females accountable for their actions ever. Nevermind, all accountability should be transfered to the male.
They're both equally responsible. Dude shouldn't of had sex without a rubber if he wasn't ready to suffer the consequences. In this situation the lady is dealing with the consequences by having the baby. Thats life. Life ain't always fair, but the OP brought this all on himself when he stuck his jimmy in her without proper protection. He's a fully grown man at that, he should of known better.ketostix said:I still say if a woman chooses to get pregnant and have a baby then it's her responsibility to do it with a male that wants a baby and wants to be with her, or it's her responsibility to find some other male that is willing to act as a father. If she can't/doesn't do this and can't be a good feminist and "woman up"and support her child, then she's a failure and her and her progeny suffer. That's life. Oh yeah, that's right society never holds females accountable for their actions ever. Nevermind, all accountability should be transfered to the male.
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Doesn't mean he should be responsible for raising it.
She wants the kid and he doesn't.
Because of this she should from this point on take full responsiblity for her choice to keep the child because she knows the guy doesn't want it and she doesn't want to abort or put it up for adoption and the man wants nothing to do with it.
She wants it so she should be the one to solely deal with it.
She wants the kid and he doesn't.
Because of this she should from this point on take full responsiblity for her choice to keep the child because she knows the guy doesn't want it and she doesn't want to abort or put it up for adoption and the man wants nothing to do with it.
She wants it so she should be the one to solely deal with it.
First off I feel for you,
Secondly, You gave her what she wanted more than anything. Perhaps that is something to be proud of, whether you are going to be there in the future or not.
Thirdly, if you want no part of her or her child, you should get out as quickly as possible. Get a good lawyer, might be some good help there if you don't want to pay child support either.
Secondly, You gave her what she wanted more than anything. Perhaps that is something to be proud of, whether you are going to be there in the future or not.
Thirdly, if you want no part of her or her child, you should get out as quickly as possible. Get a good lawyer, might be some good help there if you don't want to pay child support either.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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FOOL !! that is the only reason NEEDED !!! It takes 2 to tango but Ultimately it is the WOMAN that has to undergo all the physical and emotional extremes of birth. It will never be 100% equal because it is IMPOSSIBLE. How can it be ?? If men and women could pick and choose who wants to give birth then yea lets make things equal but thats not reality.drmeathead said:dont give me this it is their bodies **** either...find a different logical reason please.
This is also the reason why women play so many games and only seek out specific types of men. Because they need to know that some WEAK chicken, shit, feminine dude is gonna get em' pregnant by accident and FORCE her to mess with her body..or Ditch her like a deadbeat. More than likely a MAN WITH DIGNITY WILL OWN up to his actions and take care of his ! I guess thats the reason why women are so attracted to confidence, leadership and strength, they are strong indicators of someone who is MAN enough to be responsible for what HE does.
Also this woman never asked the original poster for his money..She didn't ask him for anything..matter of fact she told him he can get his ass outta town if he wanted to. So to automatically assume she won't be a good mother and get a good job to take care of her kids is FOOLISH. Don't ASSume anything.
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I agree 100%
But if the poster does not want to raise another child, and the woman is more than capable of doing it herself, then I believe he can walk away from this without feeling guilty his entire life. This is something that SHE decided she wants to keep.
If he doesn't feel that he wants to go through this again, then think what you will about him, but he equating raising a child as an experience on par with 'hell.' I'm sure not everyone shares that sentiment, but why be miserable?
Walking away is better than being only partially involved. Let this kid atleast have a chance of having a father figure rather than a bio-dad that he sees every few years and a step daddy.
I agree 100%
But if the poster does not want to raise another child, and the woman is more than capable of doing it herself, then I believe he can walk away from this without feeling guilty his entire life. This is something that SHE decided she wants to keep.
If he doesn't feel that he wants to go through this again, then think what you will about him, but he equating raising a child as an experience on par with 'hell.' I'm sure not everyone shares that sentiment, but why be miserable?
Walking away is better than being only partially involved. Let this kid atleast have a chance of having a father figure rather than a bio-dad that he sees every few years and a step daddy.
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drum and bass,
i dont buy the our bodies, our choice ****. while i wont come down on you and flame you for your independant opinion as you failed to do so for me expressing mine, i will disagree. once it is the typical left wing thought process to attack the quality of the opposing view persons morals as opposed to their ideas. to be honest and totally classist, based on the grammar you use as you post, people like yourself make me happy that i live in a gated community and attend social functions at country clubs you cannot afford.
while it is fact that women bear the brunt of pregnancy and thus shouldnt have to abort simply because their male sex partner desires so, i do think that making the man 100 forced to support the child is a bit much. do i think he should? without a doubt but because he is a stand up guy not because some judge orders him to pay. however if he doesnt desire to do so and waives his rights permantly, he should have an out. what is this out? is this out the right thing? i have no idea. thats why i am a dentist and not public policy maker.
i dont buy the our bodies, our choice ****. while i wont come down on you and flame you for your independant opinion as you failed to do so for me expressing mine, i will disagree. once it is the typical left wing thought process to attack the quality of the opposing view persons morals as opposed to their ideas. to be honest and totally classist, based on the grammar you use as you post, people like yourself make me happy that i live in a gated community and attend social functions at country clubs you cannot afford.
while it is fact that women bear the brunt of pregnancy and thus shouldnt have to abort simply because their male sex partner desires so, i do think that making the man 100 forced to support the child is a bit much. do i think he should? without a doubt but because he is a stand up guy not because some judge orders him to pay. however if he doesnt desire to do so and waives his rights permantly, he should have an out. what is this out? is this out the right thing? i have no idea. thats why i am a dentist and not public policy maker.
See that's where I disagree with you. You're sidestepping the first issue of a woman being responsible for the consequences of who she decides to possibly inpregnate her. If she can't choose the right male to fulfill the father role and keep him interested, then she is a failure and should suffer the consequences.MrStabAHo said:They're both equally responsible. Dude shouldn't of had sex without a rubber if he wasn't ready to suffer the consequences. In this situation the lady is dealing with the consequences by having the baby. Thats life. Life ain't always fair, but the OP brought this all on himself when he stuck his jimmy in her without proper protection. He's a fully grown man at that, he should of known better.
A woman deciding to become a mother has more responsibilities than a man deciding to just have meaningless sex. Women have the choice pretty much in sex partners, and men don't. You can claim men do or a real DJ does but in general women have the most choice when it comes to who they can have sex with. If a guy got a girl pregnant, got married and split on the child, that would be different.
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of course having the government interfere with your life and bossing you around sux !! that is why there are so many people on this forum who are OPPOSED to marriage. If you live in this society/matrix/media, you have to follow the laws..so we teach guys to avoid losing their freedom/independence/options.drmeathead said:i do think that making the man 100 forced to support the child is a bit much. do i think he should? without a doubt but because he is a stand up guy not because some judge orders him to pay.
If you already make the wrong choice then its to late, you SHOULD do what is morally correct (in this specific situation) and make the best of a bad situation...sure we can all sit around and talk about how rotten the rules are and how extremely harsh they are on men but for what ?? for why ?? Just use common sense and avoid getting trapped into a life you don't want.
I understand where your coming from but you know what...immigrants work jobs that EVERYONE else hates doing for the lowest pay possible. How many guys do you know, or work with, that ABSOLUTELY HATE going to there job, but the pay and the fact that they have a family to support means they will wake up everyday for years and do what they must. NO EXCUSES !! the OP may think its hell, but life isn't all a bed of roses. MAN UP !!! just because he's whining and crying that raising another kid is hell IS NOT A GOOD ENOUGH REASON to not do what NEEDS to be done.Andromax said:If he doesn't feel that he wants to go through this again, then think what you will about him, but he equating raising a child as an experience on par with 'hell.' I'm sure not everyone shares that sentiment, but why be miserable?
Walking away is better than being only partially involved. Let this kid atleast have a chance of having a father figure rather than a bio-dad that he sees every few years and a step daddy.
what is the definition of being a Man ?
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.