Knock It Off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PuertoRican_Lover]

e-z rider - here is the case why the definition of a "wh@re" must be defined in absolute and not relative terms...

I know your point -- "does every girl that has sex with a man have to have a wh@re mentality" --- the word wh@re is obviously a strong label and is taken very harshly by the recipient - (damn there goes my bad syntax) so i (no capitalization) would not personally shout out "wh@re" to every woman since if the label is overused then it would lose its impact and thus its' meaning; however, I have to go to the extreme example in the defining the essence of a wh@re because if you start making allowances and exceptions based on everyone's own criterion and "special" circumstances then you can never truly define what a "wh@re is.
(can i end a sentence with the word "is" - what's that rule?)

if someone has a wh@re "mentality" they r usually looking to get screwed by any guy at any time - but aren't prostitutes also doing the same - so why don't we call these girls on college campuses looking to screw any guy ad infinitum a prostitute - oh yeah they don't get paid cash - so technically they can't be labeled such - so does that make them better than a prostitute?

The college wh@re would take offense to be called a prostitute - they see themselves as better than that since they have standards and will only have sex with guys that they find attractive (sure enough thats most guys) and they will never accept cash for the services performed - if they did then how could they differentiate themselves from the lower caste prostitute on the street (they will however accepts meals and gifts - preferably something they can adorn themselves with - jewelry and furs are always welcomed) - hhhhmmmm i wonder what are the iIRS rules regarding such ho compensation -- but I digress!
- now let me take it further..
(damn my sentence structure sucks! - but my logic is right on -- keep going PRL keep going)

now if you take that same prostitute and compare her with a playboy centerfold ho that just does playboy spreads and pictures in magazines then the prostitute would take offense and say "im not showing millions of people my body (plus i have stretch marks) everyone in the world would see me as a spectacle to be gawked at and people i know and my family will see me and my hairy tw@t -- thats demeaning --- sex is a private act to b shared by a few only and plus i'm a business woman - if u want to see me u have to pay me individually -- but i am really prostituting myself because i want to go to school so that i dont have to do this anymore but school is expensive and i first need to raise funds - i just don't have any other skills -- at least I don't prostitute myself for nothing like the college ho"'

and the playboy ho would say " yuck i don't know how prostitutes can just have sex with any man that approaches her - how immoral! - i only sleep with model types i would never let a fat slob pound on me for $100 bucks " then u ask "how about a $1,000,000" and then the playboy ho rubs her chin and reconsiders for a tetrasecond and blurts out "i'll do it".
She goes on saying "my objjective for being in playboy is to further my acting career and my agent said i need exposure (literally and figuratively speaking) to increase my chances of getting noticed by Hollywood and fulfilling the prerequisites for the stringent demands of an acting career"

every wh@re rationalizes her wh@redom.... r u starting to see the picture ? (yeah PRL - but its hard to read your wriiting because of your grammar and run-on sentences ) --- i concur - i ask u to bare with me and follow my logic - just read a little slower and read for understanding -- all writing is for understanding is it not?

and the drama continues - imagine this fictional scenario taking place in a room where all ho characters are each trying to rationalize their existence and how really they r not a woman of ill-repute - or as bad as their counterparts.

then all three fictional character wh@res (college ho --- prostitute ho --- playboy ho ) confront what they see as the "wh@re of wh@res" --- can u dj's guess? u got it!! Yes!
All their fingers point to the ...... The Porno Star (imagine porno music playing as she struts into the room )

The porno star looks at all of them ready for the confrontation -- she stares at each one with indignation -- the other three hos are waiting for her to speak and hear her utterances defending her non-defensible position - to rationalize the irrational - she coolly pulls a cigarette out of her versace diamond studded purse - she lights it and takes a puff and daringly blows the smoke in the direction of her accusers and in a softly defeated voice she murmurs -- I have no defense - I' profess to be the wh@re that none of you confess to be - there is no justification for my being a wh@re - I just am!

After hearing such simple profundity from the accused they all huddle together and embrace one another - somehow understanding that there is a common bond between them that they all share - this thing called "wh@redom" - they come to the conclusion that why should they fight one another - they say, "let us unite around this banner of power that is vested within us - lets use what the woman naturally has to overcome the men that have been oppressing us for millenniums - we shall infiltrate Hollywood and all Recording companies and align ourselves with homosexuals and lesbians and all manner of sexual deviants" - and with tears rolling down their cheeks and while rubbing each others bodies against one another they all open their mouths as if it was inspired by an outside force and in unison they are harmonizing and proclaiming their freedom from all moral shackles from those who try to label them as morally inferior to their virgin female counterparts .......and with song in their voices they proclaim loudly and proudly their theme song..... WE ARE FAMILY.
I HAVE ALL MY SISTERS IN ME... HEY HEY HEY NOW......

wait its not over .....

e-z rider's 23 year old girlfriend of 7 months (who had three long- term sexual relationships with guys she loved) makes an entrance to the room with shame on her face she spoils the celebratory and festive mood -- "excuse me is this room where u r discussing "what is a wh@re" and are the fictional characters of Puertorican_lover's DJ forum - yes honey - Do you have a question?

"AM I A WH@RE?

(just having fun at your expense e-z rider

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

e-z rider should the four fictional characters excuse your fictional girlfriend's sexual indiscretions as legitimate because she "loved" (whatever u define that as) her partners? if so, why? because of love? HUH? u can have sex with 17 guys because u loved them and not be called a wh@re - how is she better than the playboy ho who had only 5 sex partners - yet we would call her a ho?

do u see the chaos relativism has wrought???

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

originally posted by ICE COLD

PRL is in the 7% of men whose logical abilities function as they should.

Kudos to you man, but don't argue with the unenlightened. They won't get it anyways.

Thanks ICE COLD for your compliment - you are an enlightened DJ!

 

[Don Ronny]

Originally posted by Puerto Rican Loser
99.99999% of women are sluts. (the. .0000001% is my mama) Bla Bla Bla for days...A bunch of amusing and yet worthless information (as usual)

I notice you would rather focus on the mistakes and shortcomings of others than provide any insight that will help you improve yourself (the very purpose of this forum)

So enlighten me PRL, how are you meeting and attracting these wonderful virgins of yours? You havent given any constructive advice here.. 5,000 words later and all I hear is judgement calls (damn you even have these b!tches in categories now! )

So far the only women skills you seem to possess is determining their slut factor...most WOMEN can already do that, so where are your skills as a MAN? Put down the porno mag for a second and go outside and mebbe you will learn something.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Don - being a ho is not a mistake - it is a willful act - all my examples have been theoritical and hypthetical situations - i have not singled out anyone and i am not judging anyone to eternal damnation - i am unworthy to do so and that is not my point for being on sosuave -- no matter if u accuse me otherwise.

I have been personally affected (and so has every male) by the change in American culture and the elevated status that these liberated hos have been given in the last 30 years - there has been a cognizant effort to artificially debase the male and to artificially give more power to the female to change the dynamic between the male / female relationship and the power structure of the family -- maybe u r too young or too busy focusing on getting laid but I have seen the change and all the tactics used to make this male/female power dynamic manifested in real life and not just tv shows. -- i can write 10 pages on this alone but time seems to always escape me.

i say, "say no to hos" because when u chase a wh@re u r honoring her and encouraging her ho mindset and ho attitude as if it is worthy to be pursued and thus this pepretuates and strengthens her position between the sexes in the greater society - hence when a real man calls her by her true status - a ho! - she see this as if the real man is somehow being deflamatory in his speech because all the other guys compliment her on her station in life as if it is something to be beholden and pursued thus giving credence to her ho existence and the authority to disrespect the real men who know her kind.

Wh@res are powerless without the implied or explicit consent of the male -- based on the threads on this board (expecially newbies) the male is being emotionall decimated -- my mission is to undo what his been done by the feminist/wh@re/homosexual agenda (the feminization of the male and the masculinization of the female) and return to our proper status as men --

That is why relationships are not functioning right in the 21st century - it is this artificailly created and unnaural role reverrsal that is at the core . Isn't the heart of the dj bible to give us this instruction to be the natural man that is within us and project our masculiny and all that this entails when we are pursueing and relating with women? Doesn't this seem odd to you? Men are needing outside instruction and guidance for instructions and guidance that are already innate through our DNA makeup? HUH???

This only makes sense if, of course, our natural state as men has been inluenced by an outside force to be something that we are not. PRL "how could someone have the power to have such a great impact on the masses of men and their mindset " Can anyone say "mass media and the images and messages that lie within for over a 30 year period!" -- also other factors such as changes in laws affecting alimony- child support - handling domestic disputes by law enforcement - custody of child - hiring practices and promotion on yhe job - feminist rights and nowhomosexual rights -- i can go on and on and on ----- but u guys get my point right? If not, then u r beyond help --

There are DJ's that know this conditon of the artificially weakened male and the number one advice I hear is -- BE A MAN!!! HUH???
simple yet so profund!! I say to myself why do we need others to tell us what we already know? aaahhhhh I tell myself -" these young men are aslleep and have been brainwashed since a child -it's not their fault PRL"

My mission is to wake them up!!!!!!

 

[E-Z Rider]

K

People have asked you before "So if a girl is not a virgin and is not married, then she's a ho?"

And you respond basically by saying "Not exactly".

"If you're having sex with her and she isn't your wife, she's ho-ing".

That statement doesn't mention anything about her previous sexual encounters.

See my point?

 

[MikeYikes122]

Oh hey PuertoRican_lover,

I have just noticed that your from Wisconsin. I have relatives in Iowa, so the next time I'm around there why don't you remind me of your existence so I can come over to your house and slap the living **** out of you because I have never met a person man or woman who deserved it so badly.

You have to be the most clueless, naive, and misguided person I have ever seen post on here. You're an immigrant from Puerto Rico, and you try explain to US (true Americans) how our society and social structures operate.

Let's talk about this horrid dissection of the so called wh@re mentality.

-The college wh@re-

WHAT IN THE FVCKING HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Is this based on a fvcking Beastie Boys song or something? If any population of college girls were really like this high school graduation percentages of guys would be sooo much higher. This has to be the most ignorant thing you've yet to say. First off, I don't know where the hell you went to college, (obviously one with a poor English program) but this is so inaccurate and so false on so many different levels. I will exlain to you your huge misconception of the so called stereotype of "college wh@re."

There is no wh@re about any of them. They don't have sex for pleasure or because they find a guy attractive or because they want jewelry. I go to a former #1 party school of America, (we're still in the top 10) and my God you are so confused. Girls in college sleep with guys because they are confused just like yourself. Just like you they don't understand how relationships are supposed to work at this age. This is a completely different subject, but this is why I think guys mature wayy faster than girls. You see, in high school, what connotated a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship was a sexual relationship (kissing, fooling around, and yes even sex, but much less than the media likes to portray as the media wants to make a story out of everything.) So they get to college and want a boyfriend and think that by fooling around or having sex with a guy that they will be considered his girlfriend. At my school there is a custom of tying an old pair of shoes together and throwing them up onto the powerlines outside your apartment or house when you hook up with a girl, and surprise surprise, the power lines are always filled with shoes the week of freshmen orientation.

I'm not defending guys using girls at this age. It is wrong. But you are criticizing something that you clearly don't understand. I know girls who are close friends and former girlfriends who have hit deep dark areas of depression because the only guys they can meet here are frat meat ****s who just want to have sex with them, so they stick in bad relationships that stem from high school, or they just just get so desperate and depressed that they turn to fooling around or having sex with a guy as what they see as the last and only attempt at finding a boyfriend and not being lonely. They realize that they are getting at the age where they could be married, and they freak out about being alone. (Girls, if you're reading this, know that guys can freak out too. Their machoness or attempted machoness can hide it usually.) The only hope that any of them have is that a good guy just sits down next to them in a class, but most of these good guys are usually shy or slightly intimidated by girls.

So you give me a solution to this dilemma they get put in. What would you do PRL? Since you seem to be this sage of social knowledge.

I will tell you what you're problem is.

I remember when I was about 16-17 I saw a special on Dateline about college girls going to bars and parties and having one night stands and how it was this "new cultural phenomenon." I remember thinking, "God I can't wait for fvckin college." And then look at television shows, sitcoms even. Take "That 70's Show" for example." Eric's older sister is a girl in college, and it is always constantly implied that she is a wh@re - a college wh@re like you like to say. It seems like anytime a college girl is depicted on TV she is depicted as being slutty. So I waited all of high school for college, got here eventually and fooled around with two chicks my first two weeks of school. It seemed like after these first two weeks girls didn't just want to fool around. They were always calling and coming to our dorm rooms and getting all weird after one of us fooled around with them. And at about the end of the first semester "hooking-up" with girls was almost non-existant. I remember in the beginning of the year everyone had at least three guy friends who had a fvck buddy or two, and after about a month of this these fvck buddies either hated their guts or cried to them on the phone every night.

I've detracted though. I would later go on and get farther into my journalism major to learn that the media doesn't give a sh!t about what's completely true or what's an actual depiction or account. The media only cares about what will attract the most viewers and get them the most ad revenue, and these are usually extreme stories like college girls being outrageously slutty. While these slutty girls exist in college, they are a small population and are extremely emotional and desperate like I explained to you before. Even in "That 70's Show" Eric's older sister is depicted as a wh@re because it is an extreme case and it is funny. Look at the riots in Los Angeles of the early 90's. The news programs local and national only focused on the most violent and horrific images so that people would tune in to their news for coverage instead of another news. So the the average American thinks the riots of LA are far worse than they actually were because they only ever saw the worst images and footage that they could possibly be shown.

You're problem is you're getting you're definitions and classifications of wh@re and other cute little terms you like to toss around here from the media and what you see on TV. You even use the word "fag" and other slurs towards gays because these are terms often used by younger members of society, and you have unconciously picked them up.

You criticize us for being promiscuous and attribute it to what we see on television and what society promotes as typical behavior for us when in fact you are clearly more affected than we are. The fact is PRL that we are all affected by the media, and the only way to avoid is to become media literate and aware of the sh!t that the media likes to do.

I realize I'm not going to get to the rest of the bullsh!t that you wrote, but all of your arguement is flawed. Your link between "ho types" is so wrong that I don't even know where to begin. For example pornstars like Jenna Jameson have admittedly had awful childhoods and poor relationships with their parents. They get involved in this sh!t because their parents fvcked up their heads not because they follow some elaborate "ho chain" like you propose. Your arguements kind of make logical sense, but you're just flat out wrong.

NOW SHUT THE FVCK UP! I don't know why I keep responding to these, but I just think I feel better about myself everytime I get to make a 41 year old man look like an idiot. So keep posting this ish and I will have responses for you.

 

[MikeYikes122]

PRL just as you could write 10 pages on these subjects I could write 15 to spite you. (That's just my work ethic, and I dont mind - writing is fun.) This stuff you post makes sense, but I just don't you think you have a strong understanding of how our society works as I illustrated up there.

 

[Don Ronny]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
My mission is to wake them up!!!!!!

Do us all a favor dude. Before you type another fukking novel that says EXACTLY what you said before, show us that you have something CONSTRUCTIVE to bring to the table.

Every post you make you try to come off like this revolutionary character from like the Matrix or sum sh!T, when in reality EVERY single one of your posts is identical in its message.

Say no to hos

ALRIGHT assh0le! We GET it already!!!

What ELSE can you bring to this site other than a bunch of assenine bullsh!t about sluts???

Once again, since you STILL have the attention span of a retarded gerbil, let me make this more legible for your pea-sized brain

What else can you offer on this forum other than a bunch of lectures about sluts?

Do you have ANY game at all? Where are you meeting these virtuous women that you speak of?

I am willing to entertain your ideas if you would just provide some positive advice for a change, but I think you are either

1. Too stupid to understand this post and answer the key questions

2. Some middle aged loser who feels the need to lecture the same crap over and over

3. A bitter bastard who hates all women (hoes) except his mama (who is probably a ho too)

4. All of the above.

No one here will take you seriously if you keep spouting this garbage dude. So if your mission is to "awaken" people, you are failing miserably!!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

A DJ lesson coming up!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

My fellow DJ's there has been an unexpected outcome of this thread in that there is a DJ lesson to be learned within its' contents and is evidenced by the posters who have contributed their remarks. Read the previous pages of this thread and analyze their contents carefully and see if you can derive a lesson that applies itself to the DJ principles.

Analyze the remarks particularly made by 'don ronny' and 'mikeyikes' - do you notice their remarks are unpurposeful ramblings, unfocused dialogue, and emotional tirades that defy logic? When you reject rational thought and throw reason out the window, so to speak, you become mentally blinded to the topic at hand and then you lose focus and thus your remarks lose their impact and as a result have no meaning.

Now read my posts. They are purposeful, direct, consistent, and focused remarks that are rooted in logical sequences to bring about understanding and are positioned to bring about further discussion. Whether you agree with my stance on an issue is beside the pont - the argument nonetheless has been made in a coherent, logic-filled, and orderly fashion - and that is where your judgment should lie when determining the validity of an argument and not on emotional appeal!

A racist individual is a prime example of a person that rejects reasoning and resorts to name-calling tactics, and relies on false patriotic fervor, and emotional tirades and scare tactics to get their point across. Why do they need do this you ask? Because their arguments are weak and their reasoning is flawed and they know that their position could not be supported by such a weak foundation so they appeal to others at the basest level. They
start attacking your heritage and language, your color, race, calling your mother out of her character, ethnicity, nationality, your shoe size, and even your grammar and syntax errors . Do you notice they judge and attack you based on things which are innate to a person and are beyond your control to change and have absolutely nothing to do with your thinking or actions or behavior ? This is true is it not?

You see their power lies not in their mental faculties or reasoning abilities or in rational thought but their power is derived out of ignorance and hate for truth. If they can get masses of people, who posess these same traits on their side, they can create such a great emotional upheavall that they could win over their position by the shear force of their number and not on the basis of the validity of their arguments - which they know have no power because it is rooted in lies. And truth always wins over lies, eventually. By encompassing this irrational thinking threats are made to do bodily harm to those who have a different view and finally violent actions are the result. Now read the posts on the previous pages - does this apply to their tactics?

I have written many long posts on this thread because I like to go in depth on a topic so that there could be understanding but the rebuttals I get say very little about what I posted or fail to point to any flaws in my logic when making my arguments. They say that they agree but then write 3000 words on how they disagree or write something else that has nothing to do with the argument at hand - it is based on their feelings and if they feel this way damn it then it must true - or they say i dont like to judge my girl's character because it's none of my business and who am I to judge - then the next 3 paragraphs they are judging me and my mother and want to get into my business and ask about my sexual past or present.

I will say this one last time - what does my personal situation have to do with the argument at hand to determine its' validity!!! If I fall under its' underlying premise that if I like to chase wh@res then I am a wh@remonger - then so be it - Iam a wh@remonger - the standard of the universal law aplies to all - including myself. The logic and the law doesn't matter on my status - it is bigger than an individual. Does the law of gravity apply to you but not to me? This is why I gave the long drawn out example of the four fictional wh@res - they weren't real they were made up to get my point across that you cannot exclude yourself from the definition of a ho through irrational thinking or special circumstances or how you feel or because someone else is worst then you -- it is not relatively define but 'absolutely' defined.

Let me apply this to what you are witnessing on this thread and how to use my example to better yourself as a true DJ.

A true DJ is an enlightened DJ - there is no place for ignorance.

Keep your poise and do not let your emotions get out of control.- this wil only make you look as if you have no sound basis for your argument - and you won't be looked upon too favorably in the eyes of the recipient that is at the brunt of your wrath .

By all means have a dignified demeanor - deport yourself with honor and a code of ethics and differentiate yourself from the rest of men by having higher standards regarding the women you choose to woo. This reflects on your character - birds of the same feather flock together as they say.

Do not let your ego get to the point where you are blinded to certain truths because you don't like its' outcome, impact, and the effect it will have on you or your situation - you then become blinded to reality. Pride cometh before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall! Arrogant people miss the litlle things and certain signs telling them of their fall - pride and false love tends to blind people to the realities surrounding them - for example -men are shocked to find out that their girl cheated on them a year ago because they were not looking at her core values and her low moral character that inevitably will bing about such an act to fruition - they are thinking falsely that "she is just this way with me".

To apologize to a fellow human being in sincerity is not a weakness and it is not anti- Don Juan, rather it is a strength of character and to forgive is just as sublime.

Do not succomb to peer pressure and do what others are doing or fall in line with what they are saying just because they are popular or tow the chorus line of assention - the masses are easily deceived because they hate to think and are to lazy and apathetic and don't take the time to learn the truth. If what they are saying is invalid or illogical or based on emotions and not fact then it is your responsibility to correct them or to at least say you disagree and then tell them why. Men are unafraid to take a stand on a just cause. Women love men who have conviction - it
shows courage.

Fellow dj's - apply rational thinking and reasoning when talking with women and of course a little emotion may help to - women like men with sound reasoning skills and strong logical attributes for they see this as a masculine trait and when you start doing the irrational and start getting too emotionally insecure - they bail. Don't let your emotions get the worst of you and start trying to control women with veiled threats or physical harm - this shows that you lost her on valid grounds and are trying to win her over on unsound principles - as I have pointed out in the examples above with the posters and the contents of their thread.

Treat women with the respect that they deserve - do not approach or handle an unworty ho like a virtuous woman and by the same token don't approach a virgin or a virtuous womanas if she is a ho - if you do you will fail. Try to play with a lioness as if she is a house cat and see what the result will be - you will be smitten and deservedly so!

Peace!

 

[Don Ronny]

Alright PRL, I will play your little game just for shyts and giggles

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Analyze the remarks particularly made by 'don ronny' and 'mikeyikes' - do you notice their remarks are unpurposeful ramblings, unfocused dialogue, and emotional tirades that defy logic?

LMFAO!!

Kettle? This is pot calling ... and guess what, you are the blackest of them all!

My so-called ramblings are quite concise and to the point. I prefer to get to the heart of the matter than spend so much time on this forum arguing with the self-proclaimed Ghandi of DJism. If you really think about it .. you could learn a lesson from me son. Quailty beats quantity any day!

But like I said, I will play your lengthy game this time just for laughs.

When you reject rational thought and throw reason out the window, so to speak, you become mentally blinded to the topic at hand and then you lose focus and thus your remarks lose their impact and as a result have no meaning.

BAHAHAHAHAAAAHAAAHAA! STOP! Youre killin me PRL!!

You just perfectly described your own remarks throughout this thread! In fact if is wasnt for me pushing you into a corner, you would have had NOTHING interesting to say. You should be thanking me.

Now read my posts. They are purposeful, direct, consistent, and focused remarks that are rooted in logical sequences to bring about understanding and are positioned to bring about further discussion.

Logic is not absolute!! Hell, even serial killers have a process of logic that justifies their actions. Reason is a relative thing. I will have to disagree with your claim that your posts are direct however. You are the undesputed King of Rambles on the forum these days!

Your posts go on and on and are a futile exercise in repetition. They are usually quite boring, except for your "4 types of hos" post which was just plain hilarious...very entertaining!

They start attacking your heritage and language, your color, race, calling your mother out of her character, ethnicity, nationality, your shoe size, and even your grammar and syntax errors . Do you notice they judge and attack you based on things which are innate to a person and are beyond your control to change and have absolutely nothing to do with your thinking or actions or behavior??

Awwwwww. I hurt PRLs FEELINGS!! Hey I am sorry your mom is such a ho!

Dude, lighten up. This is a site focused on SEDUCTION, a playful act.

You see their power lies not in their mental faculties or reasoning abilities or in rational thought but their power is derived out of ignorance and hate for truth.

We arent arguing that what you say is false man. Get it straight. You just take this "truth" of yours and run a little too far with it. EZ-Rider was close to agreeing with you until he realized what a conservative fanatic you are. Just because you explain yourself logically doesnt take away from the fact that you always say the same thing repeatedly and go absolutely nowhere with your ideas (until someone intelligent provokes you with a few cutting words )

If they can get masses of people, who posess these same traits on their side, they can create such a great emotional upheavall that they could win over their position by the shear force of their number and not on the basis of the validity of their arguments - which they know have no power because it is rooted in lies.

You keep preaching truth but there is no absolute truth in a mans perception of a woman. Its all very relative from person to person! Why do you feel such a strong need to reinforce and impose your perceptions on others?

I have written many long posts on this thread because I like to go in depth on a topic so that there could be understanding but the rebuttals I get say very little about what I posted or fail to point to any flaws in my logic when making my arguments. They say that they agree but then write 3000 words on how they disagree

Well that is true in most cases, but at least my posts are short, sweet and to the point! Like I said, you should be takeing notes, junior!

they say i dont like to judge my girl's character because it's none of my business and who am I to judge

WE all make judgements but our standards are different! WHy cant you accept this? If I abided by your definition of a slut, I would be doing approaches in Amish country by now! To each his own dude.

they are judging me and my mother

Okay this is the second time you mention this so I will assume you are a mamas boy..I am sorry if I hurt your feelings with my crass remarks, please accept a gentlemans apologies.

They want to get into my business and ask about my sexual past or present. I will say this one last time - what does my personal situation have to do with the argument at hand to determine its' validity!!!

This was only to prove your own hypocrisy. You have such high moral standards for women but you NEVER refer to men as being *****s. This strikes me as odd and its also funny that while you accuse everyone else of dodging logical queires, you STILL havent answered this very simple question! Soooo once again...

Do you abide by the same moral standards that you impose on women? Or are men just "allowed" to be sluts in your Great Book of Saying No to Hos?

it is not relatively define but 'absolutely' defined.

I am always wary of people who preach "absolutes" there is a lot of wisdom in the cliche "never say never" If you were so enlightened, you would be alot more open-minded than this instead of clamping onto this debate and defending your views with the tenacity of a pit-bull on crack!

Let me apply this to what you are witnessing on this thread and how to use my example to better yourself as a true DJ.

Uh-oh! Watch out! Ghandi is about to drop some knowledge here so SHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

A true DJ is an enlightened DJ - there is no place for ignorance.

Okay. That sounds about right...

Keep your poise and do not let your emotions get out of control.- this wil only make you look as if you have no sound basis for your argument - and you won't be looked upon too favorably in the eyes of the recipient that is at the brunt of your wrath .

Not a bad insight, but I would like to also add that a DJ has a sense of humor and is not easily offended by anything. He has the ability to laugh off silly insults instead of sulking and defending his self-image with "logic"

By all means have a dignified demeanor - deport yourself with honor and a code of ethics and differentiate yourself from the rest of men by having higher standards regarding the women you choose to woo. This reflects on your character - birds of the same feather flock together as they say.

I agree 100% here.

Do not succomb to peer pressure and do what others are doing or fall in line with what they are saying just because they are popular or tow the chorus line of assention - the masses are easily deceived because they hate to think and are to lazy and apathetic and don't take the time to learn the truth. If what they are saying is invalid or illogical or based on emotions and not fact then it is your responsibility to correct them or to at least say you disagree and then tell them why. Men are unafraid to take a stand on a just cause.

Yup. I agree otherwise I wouldnt be typing this response right now.

Fellow dj's - apply rational thinking and reasoning when talking with women and of course a little emotion may help to - women like men with sound reasoning skills and strong logical attributes for they see this as a masculine trait and when you start doing the irrational and start getting too emotionally insecure - they bail. Don't let your emotions get the worst of you and start trying to control women with veiled threats or physical harm - this shows that you lost her on valid grounds and are trying to win her over on unsound principles - as I have pointed out in the examples above with the posters and the contents of their thread.

I agree this was not smart of MikeYikes. It really cheapens your argument when you have to resort to physical threats. Shame on you Mike!

Treat women with the respect that they deserve - do not approach or handle an unworty ho like a virtuous woman and by the same token don't approach a virgin or a virtuous womanas if she is a ho - if you do you will fail. Try to play with a lioness as if she is a house cat and see what the result will be - you will be smitten and deservedly so!

Probably the most coherent advice you have ever given. Kudos to you!

Calibration is so important. You cant treat a nice girl the same way you treat a party girl. I think the trick is to decide what you are really after and tweak your approach accordingly.

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Okay PRL, I have addressed all of your points but you have yet to address a few of mine, which I have REPEATEDLY asked and you have intentionally avoided during your sermons.

1. Are you a man of moral integrity who embodies the virtues he imposes on women?

2. Where do you meet these virtuous women of yours and how do you approach, attract and deal with them. This is the real reason why 90% of these people log onto this site, it even says it on the main page. "Discuss meeting, dating, and attracting women with others"

3. If your game is so airtight and your logic so pure and unbendable as the laws of gravity, then why cant you answer the above questions?

Whatever dude...

Its been interesting debating with you to say the least. I will commend you on your stubborness because I am a hardheaded bastard myself.

Nice to cross swords with a man of convictions these days. I certainly cant accuse you of being wishy-washy! LOL!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Don -- remember the focus is not on me but the issue at hand - if you must hear it - yes, Iam a sinner - and as I stated in my post I am unworthy to judge anyone to eternal damnation - and if I chase wh@res them I am a wh@remonger. Give me the names of those that I have called a wh@re. I can give you a name of a person that you called out of character that you described so personally - yet you don't know her name. Men have gotten killed for using such slanderous speech. But since this is a seduction site what else can I expect - right? Shouldn't we hold DJ's to higher standards since only chumps would use such weak "Yo Mama" logic

Some men have no dignity and will speak of their indiscretions publicly - I do have the right to keep certain things private do I not? That is what the word "persona'l means in describing one's personal business

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

I will address some of your points at a later time regarding how to pick-up virtuous women.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

ronny

if there is no such thing as absolutes - then how can you say such a thing with such absoluteness - as e-z rider alluded to earlier .

So are you telling me there is no such thing as a "iie" because there is no truth? And you never told a intentionql lie before or noone ever told you one? HUH? Don't get me started on this logic!

 

[Don Ronny]

Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
ronny

if there is no such thing as absolutes - then how can you say such a thing with such absoluteness - as e-z rider alluded to earlier .

So are you telling me there is no such thing as a "iie" because there is no truth? And you never told a intentionql lie before or noone ever told you one? HUH? Don't get me started on this logic!

I never said there was no such thing..just said I am wary of people who preach in absolutes. Of course there is basic truth, like I am a human being living on planet earth...there is no debating this very provable fact.

But here we are talking about right and wrong, something that is subject to interpretation..

For example...killing someone is wrong...correct?

But how about a special circumstance when you have a choice to kill or be killed? Or what if you are defending a helpless victim and you have a choice...watch the victim die or kill the attacker?

Where is your absolute truth here? Yup the lines can get fuzzy between black and white!

Right and Wrong is context-sensitive!

peace

DR

ps - And about your mama, I cant believe you brought it up again!

I said I was sorry and I meant it. I am sure your mom is a sweet lady who makes a killer plate of arroz con habichuelas y maduros!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

apologies accepted - I know you were just egging me on so that I can unleash my wrath through my writings It worked


But you are right if I didn't have any challengers such as e-z rider mikeyikes and you then what would be my motiviation to go further in depth into the topic . And yes my writings are long but it seemed necessary to reiterate the points based on the questions that were posed, but I would like to call them scholarly as opposed to boring , sometimes there is a fine line between the two .

I agree with you that we cant define everything that is right or wrong but damn near most things --- the hard thing to see and judge is 'intent' and the circumstances of the individual being judged - such is the example of killing that you gave -- that is why a higher being who is omnipotent and omniscent is only worthy -- but we must have ground rules for morality or else chaos results - as evidenced by the wish-washly morality of today

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Are you of spanish descent or did you study spanish ? How do you know my mother made rice and beans today - or damn near everyday for that matter -- I guess it is a cheap spanish cuisine that can feed the masses of her children Chinese eat a lot of it too - can you blame them there are over a billion to feed!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Don

some people don't like a certain style of writing or an author's choice of words and so forth - so it is with my ramblings- but an analytical description or a writing explaining something is not going to be the the most exciting thing to read and I was reptitive with the points I made but I used different examples or scenarios each time because I fet the questions posed required further details. But I did use a lot of sarcasm if you read between the lines - check out my other posts - some are serious but many are tinged with wit and humor. and my "treat her like a wh@re attitude!"

If you thought my "4 wh@re scenario " was hilarious why didn't you state so,- instead you lambasted me with harsh staemennts. No one else commented on the scenario either - except mikeyikes who took it wwwaaayyyy too seriously (I thought he had a sense of humor) - he probably had his Nazi uniform on when he was reading it. I guess some of the people didn't want to get involved in our tirades and were timid to reply - I know I was laughing hard and I knew what was coming next - I sometimes amuse myself this way.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

My fellow DJ's there has been an unexpected outcome of this thread in that there is a DJ lesson to be learned within its' contents and is evidenced by the posters who have contributed their remarks. Read the previous pages of this thread and analyze their contents carefully and see if you can derive a lesson that applies itself to the DJ principles.

Analyze the remarks particularly made by 'don ronny' and 'mikeyikes' - do you notice their remarks are unpurposeful ramblings, unfocused dialogue, and emotional tirades that defy logic? When you reject rational thought and throw reason out the window, so to speak, you become mentally blinded to the topic at hand and then you lose focus and thus your remarks lose their impact and as a result have no meaning.

Now read my posts. They are purposeful, direct, consistent, and focused remarks that are rooted in logical sequences to bring about understanding and are positioned to bring about further discussion. Whether you agree with my stance on an issue is beside the point - the argument nonetheless has been made in a coherent, logic-filled, and orderly fashion - and that is where your judgment should lie when determining the validity of an argument and not on emotional appeal!

A racist individual is a prime example of a person that rejects reasoning and resorts to name-calling tactics, and relies on false patriotic fervor, and emotional tirades and scare tactics to get their point across. Why do they need do this you ask? Because their arguments are weak and their reasoning is flawed and they know that their position could not be supported by such a weak foundation so they appeal to others at the basest level. They
start attacking your heritage and language, your color, race, calling your mother out of her character, ethnicity, nationality, your shoe size, and even your grammar and syntax errors . Do you notice they judge and attack you based on things which are innate to a person and are beyond your control to change and have absolutely nothing to do with your thinking or actions or behavior ? This is true is it not?

You see their power lies not in their mental faculties or reasoning abilities or in rational thought but their power is derived out of ignorance and hate for truth. If they can get masses of people, who possess these same traits on their side, they can create such a great emotional upheaval that they could win over their position by the sheer force of their number and not on the basis of the validity of their arguments - which they know have no power because it is rooted in lies. And truth always wins over lies, eventually. By encompassing this irrational thinking threats are made to do bodily harm to those who have a different view and finally violent actions are the result. Now read the posts on the previous pages - does this apply to their tactics?

I have written many long posts on this thread because I like to go in depth on a topic so that there could be understanding but the rebuttals I get say very little about what I posted or fail to point to any flaws in my logic when making my arguments. They say that they agree but then write 3000 words on how they disagree or write something else that has nothing to do with the argument at hand - it is based on their feelings and if they feel this way damn it then it must true - or they say i dont like to judge my girl's character because it's none of my business and who am I to judge - then the next 3 paragraphs they are judging me and my mother and want to get into my business and ask about my sexual past or present.

I will say this one last time - what does my personal situation have to do with the argument at hand to determine its' validity!!! If I fall under its' underlying premise that if I like to chase wh@res then I am a wh@remonger - then so be it - Iam a wh@remonger - the standard of the universal law applies to all - including myself. The logic and the law doesn't matter on my status - it is bigger than an individual. Does the law of gravity apply to you but not to me? This is why I gave the long drawn out example of the four fictional wh@res - they weren't real they were made up to get my point across that you cannot exclude yourself from the definition of a ho through irrational thinking or special circumstances or how you feel or because someone else is worst then you -- it is not relatively define but 'absolutely' defined.

Let me apply this to what you are witnessing on this thread and how to use my example to better yourself as a true DJ.

A true DJ is an enlightened DJ - there is no place for ignorance.

Keep your poise and do not let your emotions get out of control.- this will only make you look as if you have no sound basis for your argument - and you won't be looked upon too favorably in the eyes of the recipient that is at the brunt of your wrath .

By all means have a dignified demeanor - deport yourself with honor and a code of ethics and differentiate yourself from the rest of men by having higher standards regarding the women you choose to woo. This reflects on your character - birds of the same feather flock together as they say.

Do not let your ego get to the point where you are blinded to certain truths because you don't like its' outcome, impact, and the effect it will have on you or your situation - you then become blinded to reality. Pride cometh before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall! Arrogant people miss the litlle things and certain signs telling them of their fall - pride and false love tends to blind people to the realities surrounding them - for example -men are shocked to find out that their girl cheated on them a year ago because they were not looking at her core values and her low moral character that inevitably will bing about such an act to fruition - they are thinking falsely that "she is just this way with me".

To apologize to a fellow human being in sincerity is not a weakness and it is not anti- Don Juan, rather it is a strength of character and to forgive is just as sublime.

Do not succumb to peer pressure and do what others are doing or fall in line with what they are saying just because they are popular or tow the chorus line of assent - the masses are easily deceived because they hate to think and are to lazy and apathetic and don't take the time to learn the truth. If what they are saying is invalid or illogical or based on emotions and not fact then it is your responsibility to correct them or to at least say you disagree and then tell them why. Men are unafraid to take a stand on a just cause. Women love men who have conviction - it shows courage.

Fellow dj's - apply rational thinking and reasoning when talking with women and of course a little emotion may help to - women like men with sound reasoning skills and strong logical attributes for they see this as a masculine trait and when you start doing the irrational and start getting too emotionally insecure - they bail. Don't let your emotions get the worst of you and start trying to control women with veiled threats or physical harm - this shows that you lost her on valid grounds and are trying to win her over on unsound principles - as I have pointed out in the examples above with the posters and the contents of their thread.

Treat women with the respect that they deserve - do not approach or handle an unworthy ho like a virtuous woman and by the same token don't approach a virgin or a virtuous woman as if she is a ho - if you do you will completely fail. Try to play with a lioness as if she is a house cat and see what the result will be - you will be smitten and deservedly so!

Peace!