Kissing and beyond on first date?

[knglerxt]

Something I read in another post got me thinking about this. How can people get so intimate on a first date with someone they barely know? I just don't understand this. Is this common practice, kissing and maybe more on the first date? Do most girls expect this? If so, I'm going to have some problems when I start meeting women. I have to get to know someone before I can get close to them. Am I the only one who thinks like this?

 

[Vypros]

The only level of intimacy she expects on a first date is a kiss or some form of "touching".

Depending on the girl, you can get by without that on the first date, but if you don't do it on the second date she'll probably be done with you.

It's really weird that we've gotten to a place where "kissing" which is fairly intimate is EXPECTED very early on, and now even SEX is expected almost as early, but that's where we are in our day.

 

[Scought]

There are two kinds of attractions:
Physical
Emotional/mental.

It doesn't take a lot of getting to know someone to be physically attracted and act on it. Essentially, that's what a kiss is. Why do you have to have some deep history with a woman to kiss her?

This is a rather odd post. No offense, but if I see a hot woman in person I immediately am down to kiss her, because the physical attraction only takes less than one second.

I guess I am confused. I don't think kissing is 'so intimate.' So, this post isn't making much sense to me.

 

[knglerxt]

The only level of intimacy she expects on a first date is a kiss or some form of "touching".

Depending on the girl, you can get by without that on the first date, but if you don't do it on the second date she'll probably be done with you.

It's really weird that we've gotten to a place where "kissing" which is fairly intimate is EXPECTED very early on, and now even SEX is expected almost as early, but that's where we are in our day.

I probably wouldn't even do that on the second date. You just can't get to know someone in that amount of time.

Do you really think that most girls would "next" you for not trying anything on the first or second date? If so, how is a guy with no experience supposed to get anywhere?

 

[knglerxt]

There are two kinds of attractions:
Physical
Emotional/mental.

It doesn't take a lot of getting to know someone to be physically attracted and act on it. Essentially, that's what a kiss is. Why do you have to have some deep history with a woman to kiss her?

This is a rather odd post. No offense, but if I see a hot woman in person I immediately am down to kiss her, because the physical attraction only takes less than one second.

I guess I am confused. I don't think kissing is 'so intimate.' So, this post isn't making much sense to me.

It's just very hard for me to get physical with someone that I don't know. To me, that's just weird. It's like they're invading my personal space, and if I don't know you I don't want you in my personal space.

If someone I don't know touches me or sits really close to me, I don't like it. Maybe I'm just a cautious person.

 

[DJDamage]

Is this common practice, kissing and maybe more on the first date? Do most girls expect this?

Girls don't know what to expect. If you talk to your average girl she will probably tell you some stupid rules such as:

1) I don't kiss on the first date

2) I need to know a guy well before I become intimate with him.

Those rules purpose is to ensure society doesn't view her as a slvt and also a sh1t test to disarm any man following her rules.

The reality is that those rules fly out the window when a girl feels really attracted to a guy and if he's got a tight game he could pretty much do whatever he wants to her on the first date. You just got to know where to press their buttons.

If so, I'm going to have some problems when I start meeting women

umm your 25 years old and you have yet to meet women?? were you sheltered through out your life or something??!!

 

[knglerxt]

umm your 25 years old and you have yet to meet women?? were you sheltered through out your life or something??!!

I wasn't sheltered at all. I'm just a really introverted guy. I don't talk very much, either. That makes it extremely hard to meet women, since women don't ask guys out. The way the dating game is set up, that doesn't give a guy like me much of a chance.

 

[sca_p]

How can people get so intimate on a first date with someone they barely know? I just don't understand this. Is this common practice, kissing and maybe more on the first date? Do most girls expect this?

Hey, I'm with you on this one. I don't understand how people get get intimate with someone they don't share a real connection with. A kiss is not "just a kiss". I don't kiss unless I really, truly like a girl, and that takes time.

Do girls expect this? Depends on where you're meeting these girls. If you go to a bar or club setting, girls will probably expect some action. If you meet more high quality girls who actually have standards, then no. My girlfriend and I have been together for three years and have never had sex.

 

[DJDamage]

I wasn't sheltered at all. I'm just a really introverted guy. I don't talk very much, either. That makes it extremely hard to meet women, since women don't ask guys out.

I suggest that you go and read the DJ Bible, you need to create a new life and a new reality because sorry to say yours currently suck.

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

 

[sparky0000]

It's just very hard for me to get physical with someone that I don't know. To me, that's just weird. It's like they're invading my personal space.

If someone I don't know touches me or sits really close to me, I don't like it. Maybe I'm just a cautious person.

Don't worry. I am the same. We are a few steps above most of the pervs on here. You should be proud about that. Most of the guys on here are dating HPV infected old tramps. They realize that they will never get a virgin, so they start to lie to themselves about what they really want. The quality control with most on here is pretty much, "If I can bang her she is a hottie."

One of the many reasons I adore girls in Eastern Europe is because if you take your time you can find a really sweet innocent girl who is absolutely stunning. Those type of girls have a certain grace combined with a bit of awkwardness that is very attractive. There is something to be said about forming a relationship with a girl before you get in bed with her. Wow, I guess I am just such a prude .

Believe it or not, there was a time in America when guys actually wanted virgins. Can you believe that? Yes, it is the truth. Funny how the girls looked soooo much better back then as well (thin was in). I could give a damn these days. You guys just be sure to get checked for HPV. Most of you probably have it.

To those of you who actually want a relationship before sex - Props to you. If you are patient you will end up with the type of girl that most on here get off to in the bathroom when they are all alone.

 

[Dyce5Dyce]

Something I read in another post got me thinking about this. How can people get so intimate on a first date with someone they barely know? I just don't understand this. Is this common practice, kissing and maybe more on the first date? Do most girls expect this? If so, I'm going to have some problems when I start meeting women. I have to get to know someone before I can get close to them. Am I the only one who thinks like this?

Almost everything in life and human interaction deals with your state of mind. Understand that some guys come into this game with the motive and mindset of one night stands and sex with no attatchments. When that is your MOTIVE for interacting with the opposite sex, getting very intimate on the first date does not seem that bad; you got exactly what you set your mind to do, therefore, it does not eat away at you. In the world of success and failure that man was a success because he achieved what he set out to do.

On the other hand, if your mindset for the dating game is to find that special someone or to have an emotional connection with them, then if you do attain that goal you too are a man of success. However, we do live in a society that is very open with sexuallity. You may come across a woman or two that is just interested in sex from you. This is not to say that she is a slvt. But there might have been a string of things that you did wheather knowingly or unknowingly that turned her on that night/day. When she feels this attraction toward you, it is not the time to think about a deep connection! She wants you simply because of what YOU have done to her. You got her to the point where the majority of men may never take her. You are responsible. Based on my current mindset, its time to strap up. However, if you do arrive at this point with a woman and still feel uncomfortable with the situation because of your current mindset, then just simply backout. Your reality is much more important that her pu@#y. And there are alot of females out there that still respect that. Be Strong.

 

[Full Throttle]

I wasn't sheltered at all. I'm just a really introverted guy. I don't talk very much, either. That makes it extremely hard to meet women, since women don't ask guys out. The way the dating game is set up, that doesn't give a guy like me much of a chance.

Would you be a ******* man?

 

[Scought]

Don't worry. I am the same. We are a few steps above most of the pervs on here. You should be proud about that .

Hey, way to make a blanket statement about everyone on here.

Have we met? No, I don't believe so. How about you don't act elitist because you can't get a girl to hold your hand.

"A few steps above"--who are you to say that?

'Pervs'--because men on here like to be physical with a woman they find attractive? Wow.:crackup:

Continue what you are doing and you will get the same results. The OP came here with a question and if he isn't willing to try new things, which may include a change of his position in this matter, than he can't get help here.

You are making a kiss into something earth shattering--it's not. When you get your first kiss you will realize that it isn't some mystical thing that transforms your life. Rather its a simple one of life's pleasures. :woo:

Look, get your first kiss than come back here and talk to us. Judging, or telling is what you do or don't like about something you haven't done, is like me saying I don't like cookies, and never even trying to eat one.

Now, are you ready for some advice? Or do you want to continue on telling us how sacred a kiss is?

Do you realize that you will not find a woman that has never kissed a guy before. If you are 25. Most woman your age have kissed 50+ guys, some less, and some maybe even none. But, the chance of you being on a date with her are almost 0, because it is so rare.

 

[Thai Foon]

Hey, way to make a blanket statement about everyone on here.

Have we met? No, I don't believe so. How about you don't act elitist because you can't get a girl to hold your hand.

"A few steps above"--who are you to say that?

'Pervs'--because men on here like to be physical with a woman they find attractive? Wow.:crackup:

Continue what you are doing and you will get the same results. The OP came here with a question and if he isn't willing to try new things, which may include a change of his position in this matter, than he can't get help here.

You are making a kiss into something earth shattering--it's not. When you get your first kiss you will realize that it isn't some mystical thing that transforms your life. Rather its a simple one of life's pleasures. :woo:

Look, get your first kiss than come back here and talk to us. Judging, or telling is what you do or don't like about something you haven't done, is like me saying I don't like cookies, and never even trying to eat one.

Now, are you ready for some advice? Or do you want to continue on telling us how sacred a kiss is?

Do you realize that you will not find a woman that has never kissed a guy before. If you are 25. Most woman your age have kissed 50+ guys, some less, and some maybe even none. But, the chance of you being on a date with her are almost 0, because it is so rare.

^^agree

 

[So pimp its scary]

Off the top of my head I can think of 10 girls I've fvcked on the first date...

It's all about getting the girl turned on enough and find a seculuded place and then she's yours if you want it.