"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Kisses my neck when I leave...

eaglez1177

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Hey all I've been trying to game up this really hot chick that goes to my school. I've never legit hung out with her, we were only in the same math class all of last school year and I had a small feeling she might have checked me out in class.

But, I've been at three parties with her over the summer, all of which I threw some game at her (I was really stoned), and she like sorta responded. Then, this past night (third night ive seen her), she gives me an extended hug when I see her, and then I didnt really throw too much game at her, but she was just standing around in a big circle that about 5 ppl formed. When I left, I went to give her a hug, and she hugged me back, and then kissed me on my neck.

Where should I go from here? I dont have her cell num but I am a friend with her on facebook. Should I try to ask her to hang out with me on facebook? And shes that kind of girl that wants to fvck so i really wanna bang her lol.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The next time you meet in person. Ask her to hang out. Ask her phone number. Go out. Have fun.
 

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Shyt. I love facebook. Here's a convo I had this evening.



how do you know all these peoples from my church? do u go there?

her
Today at 5:37pm

yeah. I knew you went there! They call you Rhino right? So how are you doing?

me

Today at 6:02pm

great. but i still don't know who you are. my name is REINALD. Rhino, yeah, i have been called that, but i think you may need to get your hearing checked little girl. haha. how old r u anyways?


her

Today at 6:09pm

ok...im not little anymore 19. lol. How long have you been going to Trinity



me

Today at 6:12pm

a looong time and i'm not like the other boys, they say he's not like us. hehe. well so how cool are you anyway? better tell me before i act out and you tell on me? hmmm?


her
Today at 6:19pm

Im pretty kool! I dont tell on people. Its a little like a child to tell :) lol. So what did you do most of the time? lol. just starting conversation. hehe :)

me
Today at 6:22pm

hold on a sec. I have to inspect your page before i answer your questions. i'm evaluating you right now. it will be a minute.

me
Today at 6:27pm

and now i'm also being distracted by other people. haha. oh well.


me
Today at 6:28pm

f it. what music do you like? make a long list, so i can stall for time.



me
Today at 6:35pm

oh well. see you at church. i have stuff to do. take care.


her
Today at 6:38pm

Kings of Leon, Rock music, rap music, some country. I have a tattoo on my right ankle. Im not like other people at church...Im not a good person at all. I just dont fit in at all. I don't like to follow the rules at all :) I hope you dont think Im terrible or anything :p I listen to 93.7, 98.1 a lot of things.



me
Today at 6:42pm

you don't listen to 93.3 and you're white. wtf is wrong with you kid? anyway, i know who you are now, but your new haircut threw me off? you still look like that?


her
Today at 6:42pm

hey im going swimming but we can talk later right? maybe tonight because im on like all the time and have no one to talk to lol!



me
Today at 6:43pm

oh yeah. you like boys, girls, both? just curious. hehe.



me
Today at 6:45pm

that's why i'm doing email. i'll be drinking all night, may see someone later if she's not too much of a ***** right now. bye.



her
Today at 8:52pm

boys. why? I was drinking last Friday for my sister-in-laws 23rd b-day! Wait if you get offline then Ill have no one to talk to :(



me
Today at 9:34pm

Is that all you do. You smoke weeds?



her
Today at 10:02pm

sometimes. what do you do? hehe



me
Today at 10:05pm

girls



me
Today at 10:06pm

i almost attatched a starbucks to that on accident. lol



me
Today at 10:07pm

sometimes older women when i get desperate. lol not very often though



her
Today at 10:10pm

wow...you should stick with younger girls. lol. anyways so whats up? so what do YOU want to talk about? You can pick the subject. hehe lol



me
Today at 10:11pm

i'm drinking rum. I already PICKED the subject silly girl!


me
Today at 10:12pm

i know what i want to talk about. you have to tell me all the dirt on the church folk that you know. we should drink sometime. i live in greer.



her
Today at 10:16pm

i dont have any yet...except they seem to judge every vistor that walks in and that sarah irwin judges me about everything...is this what you wanted to talk about? yess we should. i live in fountain inn. where do you live in greer?



me
Today at 10:19pm

real close i guess. we can arrange it when i get a day off or something. we'll talk about that later. yeah, sarah is a ****ing ****. i tried to get her to go out with me, but i think she has her ***** in a lock box. i did get her a little hot last week though i could tell. you should watch me when i flirt with those christian girls. they end up flipping out.



me
Today at 10:21pm

see this is the way it is with those girls. it's sad. so don't cry too much.

they all holding out for mr perfect and can't have no fun otherwise. but they don't know that mr perfect don't want them. sad but true babe.



me
Today at 10:23pm

i think Jocelyne get's **** though. it seems like it anyway. i have to take a shower. so i may get back on later. bye.



her
Today at 10:35pm

im not waiting for mr perfect...i would rather have fun. lol. I love fun! I would do anything for fun or other things. hehe



her
Today at 11:23pm

have you and jocelyn slept together?
 

eaglez1177

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^Doesnt really help : /.
 

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A kiss on the neck means nothing. I get it all the time after the party. Girls even kiss me on the cheek.

It's like exchanging hugs. She might have even been inebriated.

Anyways, if you want to game her, then take her out on a date.

That's your next step. That way, you determine whether she's really into you.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Allurre said:
A kiss on the neck means nothing. I get it all the time after the party. QUOTE]

I beg to differ, a kiss on the neck is rather intimiate. I only kiss guys on the neck if i want to move things forward. I think you should ask her out, you got nothing to lose.
 

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I went thru this exact situation back in my AFC days.
Same kinda thing with the girl. She kissed my neck when she said hi to me one time and she always gave very extended and touchy feely hugs.

So naturally i woulda thought 'ok this girl wants me'.... i was wrong! I eventually asked her out (after some time cos i was AFCtastic at the time) and she said she wasnt interested which i was very confused about! It turned out she was pretty much an Attention W.

anyway my advice to you is: i wouldnt assume that that kiss is a definate sign she likes you like that; what u should do is gain an idea of if she does or doesnt want u. To do this either, come onto her more in person and see how she reacts (thats what id do) or just ask her out as Cinamon mentioned. Also doing it over facebook probably isnt too hot... what u could do is get her number via facebook (by asking) THEN PHONE her.

So yeah dont do what i did and beat yourself up about what she MIGHT think. Get a definite answer. Much better that way. (if only i knew that a while ago! haha)
 

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Oh and let me also mention that she was pretty drunk at all of those parties lol. And ive never really been a huge fan of asking people to hang out on facebook or asking for their numbers on facebook, to me that seems like something a real man should just do in person. But like I said, theres really no way of me hanging out with her in person unless we just happen to be at the same party.
 

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Cinamon said:
Allurre said:
A kiss on the neck means nothing. I get it all the time after the party. QUOTE]

I beg to differ, a kiss on the neck is rather intimiate. I only kiss guys on the neck if i want to move things forward. I think you should ask her out, you got nothing to lose.

Yes, it is intimate, but some women do it to EVERY guy-friend; even if she has no real attraction toward him.
 

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No this chick wasnt doing it to every guy. Like a bunch of people began leaving the party before me, and they all just gave this chick a normal hug, and got no kiss on the neck. Also, one of my best friends got a kiss on the neck from the best friend of the chick that gave one to me. This is simply because the chick that gave my best friend a kiss on the neck has been crazy about him all year and wants him soooo bad.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Where should I go from here tho? The only way I have of contacting her is just through facebook, i dont have her num or anything like that.
 

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there is no uniform guideline to hints women like you

each woman is a case by case basis.

I know a girl who flirts with me on a daily basis and i mean flirts. but I also know she isn't interested into me like that.. not her type nor is she really mine.

there is another girl who until last week I would have thought would have stabbed mein the back alley the way she looks at me and is horribly shy and always runs from me and i foundout from a friend that she basically wants to rape me and I never would have guessed. she told me once i confronted her on it that she is just horribly shy and could not get the nerve to hold a converstaion with me let alone hit on me.

just beuase a woman kisses you doesn't mean she wants to fvck you. just becuase a woman doesn't laugh at your jokes does not mean she would not go on a date with you if you asked.
 
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