Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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I went out with this girl the first time, and she still had a distant boyfriend at that time. They hardly went out, and only contacted each other once every few days. She was cool when i kino'ed her shoulder, waist, and touching the hands. However, when i went for holding her hands, she was reluctant.

Now, this girl is on the verge of breaking up with her boyfriend. I'm going out on dinner with her tonight. Is kino a MUST every time? Yesterday she was telling me about some predictions game over the phone, and said she needed our hands to complete the rest. Most probably i'll mention that tonight. But what should i do for the rest of the kino game? :rolleyes:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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There is a big difference between kino and holding a girls hand. As comfortable I have been getting with kino, I usually reserve holding hands for girls I'm dating. Heck I think holding hands is something that actually happens after you've kissed. BTW I'm not saying that you can grab her hand to help her out of your car or in similar situations like that.

So do more kino, flirt, tease. If you end up sitting next you her you can put your arm around her shoulder. You can also do that while walking her or to guide her.

You do want to be looking for opportunities to kiss her.
 

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Maybe i'd replace "putting my arm around her shoulder" with "putting my arm around her waist", as she is 5'9" and i'm 5'7".
Honestly I don't know. I haven't tried that yet with girls. Around the waist seems more intimate. Unless somebody gives you better advice I think it's best to just go through a period of trial and error. If you're sitting next to her on a couch feel free to put your arm around her.

Most important thing. You must be comfortable with it. You want it to seem natural.

So Kino >> Kiss >> Hold hands?
Actually it's Kino >> Kiss >> kuddle

LOL kidding. Yeah I think it's, kino, kiss, hands. To me holding hands is something that's reserved for couples. But it's OK to take her hand and lead her somewhere. But holding hands just for the sake of doing it is different.

Some more more opinions would be good.
 

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Alright, i went out with her. We ended up chilling at this place with long, flat rocky platforms.

I was lying down on my bag while she was walking around in circles. She asked for my bag but i wouldn't give it to her until she asked playfully. Then, she lied down with her head resting on my bag. I told her to move aside, and we ended up lying head to head, but our bodies pointing in opposite directions, if you can picture it.

It was cool, except that she did not turn her head to face me. She was looking at the other side. Well, i kino'ed her hair and guessed what shampoo she uses. Touched her ear a little to see her earrings.

I feel that this girl is giving a distant vibe in and out. Sometimes we can be close and comfortable, but she just won't do it the whole time.

When i'm walking with her, she would walk faster or keep a distance, sometimes with her head turned to the other side, as if making an attempt to shun me.

I can honestly say i am pretty confused by the mixed signals.

She texted me after she got home, and here is how our conversation went from my reply onwards.

Me: Alright we got 1 more outing left.
Her: I thought this was the last.
Me: Ya, someone has been naughty.
Her: Who? Me? You gotta be kidding.
Me: Yeah, someone has been shunning and walking away from me. ~_~
Her: I told you i lack sympathy.

Usually my texts to her would be flirty, C&F, sexual. Hence, she mirrors me a lot on that. Well, i tried to put it in a way that i wasn't making a really serious statement out of it. But all i got was some fluff talk.

Any field-tested and working advice for the mixed signals?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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ItsTheAttitude said:
Me: Ya, someone has been naughty.
Her: Who? Me? You gotta be kidding.
Me: Yeah, someone has been shunning and walking away from me. ~_~
Her: I told you i lack sympathy.
And it's over. I would be extremely surprised if you manage to hook up with her.

It didn't seem like she was into you at all.
 
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