"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Kino for Girls

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There was a girl who blew through work awhile back, she was a master flirter/attention hoe, and she used a LOT of kino. It worked pretty well for you too, you could see that she had all the guys around here wanting her (she didn't care if they were married or not). She was hot though, I'd say an 8.8.

Anyway, there was this other girl at work who was obviously watching her, because then she started using a lot of kino herself. But she wasn't really hot (maybe a 6, maybe), so it didn't really have the same effect that it did for the hot girl :) Didn't really make much difference for her at all as far as making her more attractive. It just seemed a little pathetic really.

I think there's something to be learned from this, but I'm not sure what exactly. Some random thoughts:
1) A hot girl using kino will get more attention than a hot girl not using kino.
2) Women respond to touch more than males. So if kino will work FOR women, it should work all the more ON them.
3) If kino doesn't work for a girl who isn't hot, will kino work for a guy who isn't hot?
4) You might as well try kino. Even if you're like the girl who isn't hot, at least you gave it a shot to see if it might work for you.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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zekko said:
There was a girl who blew through work awhile back, she was a master flirter/attention hoe, and she used a LOT of kino. It worked pretty well for you too, you could see that she had all the guys around here wanting her (she didn't care if they were married or not). She was hot though, I'd say an 8.8.
An 8.8 can get away with kino. If she was an 8.7 or lower it wouldn't have the same effect. Kino is not for everyone. Then again, it doesn't try to be.


Cheers!
 

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romangod said:
An 8.8 can get away with kino.
When you say an 8.8 can "get away" with kino, does that mean that you think girls should not kino? I'm not sure why they shouldn't, except that in this girl's case, it did immediately alert me to the fact that she was an attention hoe, although there were plenty of other signs.

For other people, some girls are just naturally touchy-feely, so I don't think I would say girls shouldn't do it. But in the case of the 6 girl, she went from not doing any kino to doing it a lot, so it didn't come off as being natural.
 

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Yeah you answered it right there, it needs to come off as natural and expected. Confident even. If the 6 randomly started, but wasn't completely comfortable with it, well it wouldn't work. And of course there is a limit, a fat chick isn't going to get much of a response no matter how natural she seems.

The other way, from an ugly guy? You need to remember the fundamental, that attraction works differently for women than men. We are far more interested in looks, while they are more interested in what they feel. This is why no matter what you look like, if you walk up to a girl and start kino too early or too strong, shes not going to like it. But once you have built a bit of comfort and attraction in her, got her feeling you, then it doesn't matter what you look like kino will work.

For guys, a fugly is a fugly no matter how good her personality is.
 

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arutha said:
For guys, a fugly is a fugly no matter how good her personality is.
Exactly. I also have a theory that fuglies generally won't have good personalities because they're used to nobody liking them.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Luckily for men, woman are also attracted to things other than looks. Such as money, power, success, masculinity, confidence etc..

Kino isn't something that should be ignored.
But remember, it wont work unless there's some attraction there. Otherwise you come off as a creep.

Learn to read her body language and you'll be fine.
 

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zekko said:
3) If kino doesn't work for a girl who isn't hot, will kino work for a guy who isn't hot?
I'm a troll, and I can get girls to basically fall in love (okay, maybe not love but total interest) with me just by picking them up, throwing them around, and moderate physical flirtation.
 

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I want to amend this because it's been bugging me. After further thought, I think I would have to rate the 6 as a 5 instead. Maybe somewhere in between. I've seen 6's defined as "cute, but not gorgeous", which sounds about right to me. This girl is maybe just about not quite at that level. She's not unattractive really, but I don't think I'd call her cute. Kino would probably be more effective for a 6 than a 5.
 

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heres some of my personal experience with girls kinoing me.

On my swim team we have this girl, who we will call Carmen. Carmen is not my cup of tea, I would rate her a 6 on the face, with a 7 on the body. She is a freshmen and im a senior. We are friends and joke around a lot. One day she starts to kino me in the pool, chasing me, trying to splash water in my face , putting her hands all over me as we playfully fight each other in the water. this happens over the course of about 2 to 3 weeks.

Before I knew it i was beginning to see her more of a fvck buddy than a friend. I thought about her as someone I could have sex with and I think that's how kino works in general.
 
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