Kino during first cold approach, is it OK?

[ScrewIt]

What would you guys say to using kino during the first cold approach, right after the EC and greeting. ex: pat on the shoulder or arm. I mean as long as you do it confidently...

Would you say its a bad idea because it's too soon and seems creepy.....and its a better idea to do it after building rapport.

or is it alright to do it during approach??

 

[4afe]

Use KINO when ever you can! Look for an excuse, shake her hand forever and be C&F at the same time. Hug her after you get her number, use routines where you can kino her while your talking. There isnt a set time to use it. I use it as often as I can and as much as I can, I get very hands on and it works out much better later.

 

[Skweints]

The sooner you get her comfortable with your touch, the easier things are going to become later on. Considering touch is one of the least most neglected things between men and women, touch is a VERY effective way to turn things into your favor.

Believe it or not, the only touching that you SHOULDN'T do is the touching you would do behind closed doors. This is usually direct contact with genitalia or breasts. Pretty much everything else, you can get away with. When I go to a club and I dance with a girl, I touch them ALLLLLLLL over... from the back of their neck down to their inner thighs... and don't forget to grab their ass every once in a while too. Trust me, they love it.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Lingering handshake, touch the fabric of her clothes and comment on it (nice jacket what is it made out of?).......

 

[ScrewIt]

sounds good to me!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

NEVER use kino before gaining rapport.

 

[ScrewIt]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
NEVER use kino before gaining raport.

im getting conflicting opinions here, so is it OK or not OK?

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by ScrewIt
im getting conflicting opinions here, so is it OK or not OK?

You've just approached a woman who doesn't know you, she has no idea about who you are or your personality. How do you think she'd feel if you started touching her? This should be a no brainer.

Consider the same situation and you just ask her for her telephone number. Again, she doesn't know anything about you or your personality. Do you think she will give you her number?

Another example; you approach a woman and out of the blue you ask her out on a date. What are your chances if she doesn't know anything about you?

Without rapport you aren't going to be very successful. You're just going to come off as another AFC without any personality that doesn't get it.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
You've just approached a woman who doesn't know you, she has no idea about who you are or your personality. How do you think she'd feel if you started touching her? This should be a no brainer.

Consider the same situation and you just ask her for her telephone number. Again, she doesn't know anything about you or your personality. Do you think she will give you her number?

Another example; you approach a woman and out of the blue you ask her out on a date. What are your chances if she doesn't know anything about you?

Without rapport you aren't going to be very successful. You're just going to come off as another AFC without any personality that doesn't get it.

so true

I don't think a lingering handshake would hurt though.