"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Kino but she has a bf.. how to stop being LJBF'd?

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I've kino'd this HB from my local gym but she she told me she had a bf in a passing comment.

I'm constantly touching her massaging her etc but nothing too out there to give anything away after i heard about her bf. Alot of the talk between us is serious sometimes which makes me feel im starting to become LJBF'd.. I'm c+f with her, couple of neg-hits here and there but i still get this feeling all of my good work is getting overshadowed by this serious talk which is making me LJBF material. This has happened twice now. What can I do to prevent it getting worse or is it too late?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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ask her for her telephone number and then ask her out. She will let you know if she is interested or uninterested.

Act like you have never heard that she had a boyfriend.

It is a way of weeding out low interest girls for high interest girls.

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agree with comic relief. If she uses the bf, then say great, he can cook us dinner, or something of that nature.
 
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And it might be just a big test. To see your reaction. Use a bf destroyer pattern.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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And what, pray tell, is a bf destroyer pattern?
 
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explain this bf destroyer pattern pls.. sounds very interesting.

already have her number, don't ask me how. but it wasn't asked in a 'im interested in you and taking you out kinda way..'

straight after she said she had a bf in the flow of convo.. i didn't react to it, she mentioned it again later on but in a response to some other topic.

bottom line is that when she leaves or is around me i don't get that feeling of tension between us, like i don't see any nervousness or anxiousness in her behaviour which would suggest shes interested in me.. hence why i feel i'm pretty much LJBF.. it'll be the 3rd time i see her next time and if i don't shake off that LJBF thing hanging over my head then it'll be too late if it not already is.

any suggestions what to do besides c+f, neg-hits, and kino?

i believe prizeability would be a big issue as in she doesn't see that prizeability yet, as i havent' been social proofed by any other HBs there.

If i don't go up to her, which im planning not to do and she comes up to me, do i act cold and uninterested? it seems very rude and sudden abrupt behaviour.. i'm thinking that before, i've conveyed interest by going up to her.. so if i suddenly remove it. should that not create a reaction from her wondering why suddenly i'm not on her anymore?

how does one act uninterested without being rude?
 
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