kid's not fully raised until he can properly support his own kid

[yuppee]

In today's money, that means a gross salary of 150k per year. His wife needs to make 100k per year, neither of them working any overtime to do it, either, if they want 2 kids. 20 years from now, they'll have to be making twice as much, due to inflation. Using public schools is welfare. Having neighbors and your parents watch your kids is welfare. YOU had them, YOU pay for raising them, all the way to a master's degree. Dont be pointing govt guns at me and taking MY money for your kids. and dont raise welfare bums and criminals. You'll have to get the kid thru a master's degree program, or set him up in some REAL biz, so you;'re going to have to cough up 20k per year, for 25 years.

you clear 100k per year on 150k and the wife can't help while the kids are little, either. She belongs at home, bonding with them, until they are 6 years old. 20k per year on a decent house, utilites, net, cable, , 10k per year on a couple of cars, 30k on the parents' general upkeep, and the 100k is gone. you wanna retire in 20 years, like everyone else, better be saving 50k per year, between the 2 of you. When wife is working, baby sitters, etc, cost 20k per year.
Wake up, get a vasectomy . Once you're a millionaire, adopt a kid from the third world. ONE kid per million $ in the bank.

 

[FairShake]

You're weird.

 

[yuppee]

i"m correct, and you're brainwashed and lazy. You don't want to have to pay the full price of properly raising a kid? then get a vasectomy. Be responsible about SOMETHING at least. If a guy or gal aint got a masters' degree, they don't even have FEATHERS in today's world, much less know how to fly. So wtf you doing kicking them out of the nest, hmm? and wtf are doing having a kid, condemning them (and their kids, too) to a lifetime of poverty. This can be done on much less, but you have to move to a third world country in order to do so, after saving up 1/4 million $ here and learning a lot about where you are going and what to do there to make a decent living. If you don't want to do all this, you dont REALLY want a kid. You're just breaking weak to the "lizard brain" part of you that says "you MUST reproduce.". Well, the responsible side of you SHOULD be saying "not until I can do it RIGHT".

 

[speed dawg]

i"m correct, and you're brainwashed and lazy. You don't want to have to pay the full price of properly raising a kid? then get a vasectomy. Be responsible about SOMETHING at least. If a guy or gal aint got a masters' degree, they don't even have FEATHERS in today's world, much less know how to fly. So wtf you doing kicking them out of the nest, hmm? and wtf are doing having a kid, condemning them (and their kids, too) to a lifetime of poverty. This can be done on much less, but you have to move to a third world country in order to do so, after saving up 1/4 million $ here and learning a lot about where you are going and what to do there to make a decent living. If you don't want to do all this, you dont REALLY want a kid. You're just breaking weak to the "lizard brain" part of you that says "you MUST reproduce.". Well, the responsible side of you SHOULD be saying "not until I can do it RIGHT".

You are targeting the wrong group. If you want to sterilize someone, you need to be talking to the true welfare bums.

 

[yuppee]

I'm talking to people in general. they are NOT providing master's degrees for their kids and they are NOT putting them in private schools. Public schooling is WELFARE. price supports for farmers, paying them to not grow certain crops, that's welfare, too.