“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Keeping Girl from Match Interested before first meetup

MtnMan

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I have seen 100 posts about how to text or call a chick, and peoples opinions always vary.
Here is my current sitation. I have a match.com profile, it sucked. I recently reworked it with pretty solid results. Lots more views and winks etc. This very cute girls contacts me and says:

"Hi there,

Happy New Year! How are you? Really enjoyed reading your profile, especially your appreciation of the VT outdoors. I recently moved to VT myself and love that the mountains and lake are right around the corner. Look forward to hearing from you.

XXXX"

I respond with something about how the outdoors keeps me balanced etc (sorry I can't find the response in my old mail)

Then she IM's me over match we chat, but i keep it real brief. I cut it short and say I need to get going but we should keep the convo going over drinks or coffee. I ask for her number, she gives it to me and I say goodbye. She says she looks forward to meeting me.

Now I know that I needed to get this date scheduled and happening like the next day or two, but she is a phd student and out of town at her parents for the holidays. Will not be in town until thursday next week. This conversation happened friday morning. So 6 days between.

I told her I would call her sometime in the week. Would you guys make quick contact via text or phone like today just to keep interest up? This chick is into hiking, kayaking and marathon running. I am heading out for an epic winter hike and ski today. Something similar to her interests, worth talking about I guess.

Thoughts?
Thanks.
 

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anyone? to contact or just wait until a day or two before agree meeting time and then contact?
 

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Nah man keep youre great convo material for the actual date.

Just nc her till shes back and call for a short convo about her holiday and arrange a date. That's what I would do bro
 

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Last 4 dates I had on match flaked. Hope it doesn't happen to you.
 

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Don't get your hopes up bro. That chick has 10 other dates lined up this week.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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MtnMan said:
I have seen 100 posts about how to text or call a chick, and peoples opinions always vary.
Here is my current sitation. I have a match.com profile, it sucked. I recently reworked it with pretty solid results. Lots more views and winks etc. This very cute girls contacts me and says:

"Hi there,

Happy New Year! How are you? Really enjoyed reading your profile, especially your appreciation of the VT outdoors. I recently moved to VT myself and love that the mountains and lake are right around the corner. Look forward to hearing from you.

XXXX"

I respond with something about how the outdoors keeps me balanced etc (sorry I can't find the response in my old mail)

Then she IM's me over match we chat, but i keep it real brief. I cut it short and say I need to get going but we should keep the convo going over drinks or coffee. I ask for her number, she gives it to me and I say goodbye. She says she looks forward to meeting me.

Now I know that I needed to get this date scheduled and happening like the next day or two, but she is a phd student and out of town at her parents for the holidays. Will not be in town until thursday next week. This conversation happened friday morning. So 6 days between.

I told her I would call her sometime in the week. Would you guys make quick contact via text or phone like today just to keep interest up? This chick is into hiking, kayaking and marathon running. I am heading out for an epic winter hike and ski today. Something similar to her interests, worth talking about I guess.

Thoughts?
Thanks.
Her interest is some what already there dude, you got the digits I would probably wait until Wednesday, calling her would be better than text-IME. A simple call short & sweet BAM set-up a Sunday night or Mon night meet up. For me new plates don't get Friday or Sat dates until they deserve it.

She will need a couple days after getting back from her parents. She's a PHD student, she more than likely has a busy life style but is looking for something casual. 10 dates lined up like Skinny said--I highly doubt that.
 

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She reached out to you first, not the other way around. She's interested. Do what you want but don't spend too much time on the phone. Only text to set up time/date, not to have conversation. Phone call is better.
 

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I would send her a kick as$ picture of something along your hike. With a message like 'maybe if youre lucky I will show you my secret spot with this awesome view...'
 

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MtnMan said:
I have seen 100 posts about how to text or call a chick, and peoples opinions always vary.
Here is my current sitation. I have a match.com profile, it sucked. I recently reworked it with pretty solid results. Lots more views and winks etc. This very cute girls contacts me and says:

"Hi there,

Happy New Year! How are you? Really enjoyed reading your profile, especially your appreciation of the VT outdoors. I recently moved to VT myself and love that the mountains and lake are right around the corner. Look forward to hearing from you.

XXXX"

I respond with something about how the outdoors keeps me balanced etc (sorry I can't find the response in my old mail)

Then she IM's me over match we chat, but i keep it real brief. I cut it short and say I need to get going but we should keep the convo going over drinks or coffee. I ask for her number, she gives it to me and I say goodbye. She says she looks forward to meeting me.

Now I know that I needed to get this date scheduled and happening like the next day or two, but she is a phd student and out of town at her parents for the holidays. Will not be in town until thursday next week. This conversation happened friday morning. So 6 days between.

I told her I would call her sometime in the week. Would you guys make quick contact via text or phone like today just to keep interest up? This chick is into hiking, kayaking and marathon running. I am heading out for an epic winter hike and ski today. Something similar to her interests, worth talking about I guess.

Thoughts?
Thanks.
Have her "invest" in you slightly more. Tell her to send you a picture of her for your phones picture caller ID. Don't wait a few days to call. I'd call them within a day just to BS quick and set something up, or since you have something set up and she's with her parents send her some interesting picture of hiking (cool shot of a place etc.) or whatever you both like and see if she responds. If she does then have a quick text chat or a phone call if she isn't busy at the time to see how her holiday is going or leave a voicemail.

You don't want to bug the chick but show once or twice you're interested by a quick text or picture of something she may respond back to you about. If she responds keep it brief and she's most likely still interested and knows you are as well but aren't bugging her.

Don't believe these chicks are dating twelve guys a week. Most dudes who claim that have no idea what they're talking about and are pulling sht out of their bitter azzes.

What they ARE doing is picking the best (looking etc.) of the bunch of emails they get and deleting the rest. Then BSing with those dudes. And most likely getting banged by a few a month. Most chicks who use online dating aren't doing much. Working, not working, chores, same BS as everyone. I've talked with countless and most aren't doing anything exciting. (though they have banged a few or several of the best looking dudes they can get for the time they are on online dating. They just won't say it.)

In the meantime hit up other chicks to keep yourself busy in case of a flake or flakes and just to keep BSing with new ones on downtime. Date other ones though no one has much time to run out for coffee, have people over etc. (clean house or apt) every few days while working, doing their own chores, seeing friends etc. Unless they have no job, no friends, no life but running after chicks constantly like a whack job.

There are strong delusions on this site.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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a bit of a follow up: I decided to send her a picture from my day on the mountain. She responded the next day with a big long text. I kept my responses short and sweet, and sort of dropped the convo after a couple exchanges. I suggested that I could probably kick her ass hiking since I am tall and a dude (she is a marathon runner). That started some flirting. I tried to give her a call to ask her out yesterday.....no answer.

Sent a text last night telling her I was going to be in town to pick up some **** tomorrow and going to see my friends band play at this bar in town and that she should join me.......no response.

Time to try and get another plate spinning. I'm finding getting the plates to start spinning is pretty damn hard. I have much to learn.
 

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You werent the hottest on her list. Sorry man :(
 

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Dhoulmagus said:
You werent the hottest on her list. Sorry man :(
ish happens
 

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Why couldn't you wait six days? Just six days, man? You started blowing up her phone just like every other guy so of course she stopped responding.
 

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Afc
 

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working on it, this is a new thing for me really. Been in a relationship for a LONG time and never had great game to begin with. The online this is a PITA and not preferable over live people. My biggest complaint is that I live pretty rural and it takes about an hour to get to the Burlington where most of the women are. I have animals at home and a house that requires attention in the winter (wood heat, must be stoked to keep pipes from freezing)
Anyways the online thing seems to make sense for me, but god damn, even with my limited game I have better luck in person.
 

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Another update:
I get a text saying "Hi ****! Sorry for the delay , been really swamped with data collection these past three days(working on her PHD). Would there be an opportunity to perhaps meet next week? I wish I could meet you while you are in the area but today/tonight won't work."

Meh...... I'm going to be back in town Saturday for a friends party, and maybe again next week to pick up some stuff. I'm definitely not going to plan an hour drive for a chick i have not met. I guess I'll give her the benefit of the doubt, I do know how busy PHD people can be during certain times. The flake risk seems real high.
 
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Keep all date plans and invitations via phone or rarely, face to face, never text, never on VM. Call her and ask her for a specific thing, date, time in her area. I'd cut out the texting entirely until you are having sex or have been out a few times. She contacted you initially, so flake chances are low. HOWEVER, women who contacted me OLD all had some deception going on, divorced more than they said they were, separated, kids, lying old pics/angles, fat, could have been just coincidence though. Maybe yours won't turn out like that.

Personally, I like having OLD women an hour away for lots of reasons, and don't mind driving to them the first couple of dates. Better that than having them 5 miles away or god forbid just down the street.
 

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i definitely regret sending a text in the first place. I tried to call before i sent the text, but didn't get an answer. I guess I just try to call again, and set up a specific time. She is a PHD student and I know they actually can be insanely busy from time to time. Maybe i send one more text asking a good time to chat on the phone, and give it another go.
 
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