Keep getting rejected, what am I doing wrong?

[evasive]

I meet girls only at school (got tired of clubbing), this is what I do:

1. Approach girls in class, labs, ask them a neutral question to break the ice, then just start talking to them to get to know them better.
2. Get their phone number / email [add to MSN] / facebook (never been rejected for this)
3. Ask to study together sometime. Almost always they say yes to this.
4. After done studying for a couple hours, I say I have to go, and that we should hang out sometime to celebrate that this test is over..
5. They are enthusiastic or agreeable about it, with "Yeah we should totally go celebrate"
6. The minute I phone/text/MSN to make plans, they flake out with "Oh I have plans, maybe some other time", "Oh I'm going shopping that day", "I'm working"


Has happened like 5 times.. argh

 

[spax]

dam man. Thats a good strategy.

You gotta be mysterious. Dont let them know much about you. Dont talk on msn/face book before.

Also, maybe pull some movies while you guys are studying - kino etc

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

In everything you wrote you forgot to tell us what you do to build attraction. All you did was tell us that you are successful at meeting with girls which is a great but what are you doing to attract them?

 

[tick37]

Do they know your intentions or are you acting like you are a friend. All I see is that you want to party or whatever. Are you flirty? Are you touching and what not?

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

You didn't give her a reason to want to see you again! Or she lost interest cause you waited to long. Next time you go on a lil date or whatever with some girl. Tell her something fun and exciting your gonna do next week. She may ask to join you. Or you can say: "Hey, you should come along with me friday night to do whatever." If she agree's say you will call her during the week. Don't say when, you will call. Make her think and wonder when you will call. Then, when you do she will be glad you called and excitied for your plans.

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

good tip IAFYB, also
dhv stories: write and memorize a bunch of these before you hangout with a girl. Don't you ever meet with with a girl without having at least one dhv story memorized and ready for use. DHV (demonstrating higher value) stories can either be fake or real stories involving you which will raise your value in a girl's eyes and will make you look good and make her attracted to you. They can show your integrity/good side/leadership skills/spiritual or other strenghts you have.

 

[DonGorgon]

Looks!!!!! you need to look like the dude you se them going for...

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Nice strategy. However I don't think it is best to veil your intentions under the guise of school. I'm not saying to tell her you are attracted from jump but at the same time don't try and sneak in through the back door so to speak. In the words of Trent from the movie Swingers

There's nothing wrong with letting the girls know that you're money and that you want to party.

 

[Rebound Material]

I meet girls only at school (got tired of clubbing), this is what I do:

1. Approach girls in class, labs, ask them a neutral question to break the ice, then just start talking to them to get to know them better.
2. Get their phone number / email [add to MSN] / facebook (never been rejected for this)
3. Ask to study together sometime. Almost always they say yes to this.
4. After done studying for a couple hours, I say I have to go, and that we should hang out sometime to celebrate that this test is over..
5. They are enthusiastic or agreeable about it, with "Yeah we should totally go celebrate"
6. The minute I phone/text/MSN to make plans, they flake out with "Oh I have plans, maybe some other time", "Oh I'm going shopping that day", "I'm working"


Has happened like 5 times.. argh

This is classic. Judging that you have some decent looking targets in your classes, I say this is worth trying. Ive used this throughout my college career and its worked about 3-5 times. Funny, one semester I decided to take an easy A class to balance out the workload and took beginners bowling lol. I met this HB8.5 and said "hey, you and I should study for this class!" jokingly and she gladly agreed to meet up outside of class.

 

[randalll]

im having the same problem evasive. had a girl flake on me this evening, said she was feeling tired.
ive also had them cancel when they were the ones to ask to see me. one was gonna come n see me one morning but she texted and said she was hungover. id already gone to the station to meet her as well :|
cant help it denting my confidence a bit either

sounds like a good approach you've got tho

 

[ezily]

Yeah man, that strategy does have some flaws. I mean they may get the wrong idea so you need to act like you're interested. Build attraction and such. If you don't then they'll put you in the fz.

Getting email and number is good (if there's some resistance contact them over email but since your type of approach is good and should make them comfortable you shouldn't really have this problem). BUT Don't contact them over facebook and such. Man, that will seriously end it. So don't go and add them as a friend right away. Make them add you.

Study with them first all the while building attraction. Then after you're done studying see if they want to go out right then to get some coffee or something (note, that you could call first and see if they want to go out before hand as well). I think if you ask them out in this way it will minimize flakiness and at least give you one chance. So they'll probably get the hint. Just use C&F, negs, etc. They should hopefully have some attraction and agree to go. If they deny or they pretty much tell you off you know you have no chance.

 

[Bible_Belt]

I got one gf that way in college, but studying together was her idea. If suggesting it is not working for you, then change what you do.

 

[JackPrescott]

I meet girls only at school (got tired of clubbing), this is what I do:

1. Approach girls in class, labs, ask them a neutral question to break the ice, then just start talking to them to get to know them better.
2. Get their phone number / email [add to MSN] / facebook (never been rejected for this)
3. Ask to study together sometime. Almost always they say yes to this.
4. After done studying for a couple hours, I say I have to go, and that we should hang out sometime to celebrate that this test is over..
5. They are enthusiastic or agreeable about it, with "Yeah we should totally go celebrate"
6. The minute I phone/text/MSN to make plans, they flake out with "Oh I have plans, maybe some other time", "Oh I'm going shopping that day", "I'm working"


Has happened like 5 times.. argh

They consider studying a neutral "nonsexual" activity. Try to gauge their interest differently. Ask them out for a drink on the weekend instead of boring ass studying. After a number of "no's" you will get a "yes" and then it's on.

 

[tick37]

I'm tired of the b1tching and moaning. You're getting f'ed over because you're a b1tch. Don't be a ***** any more. Start standing up like a man, John Wayne. Stop supplicating and asking women to make you a man. That will never happen. I'm sick of this whinny bullsh1t.

 

[DonJuan11]

I meet girls only at school (got tired of clubbing), this is what I do:

1. Approach girls in class, labs, ask them a neutral question to break the ice, then just start talking to them to get to know them better.

GOOD

2. Get their phone number / email [add to MSN] / facebook (never been rejected for this)

phone number / email is good, facebook not so much. They may just add you and see as friend #326

3. Ask to study together sometime. Almost always they say yes to this.

Not good. Study together sometime? Unless you are making their knees weak while they study or they are getting A's because of you, they will eventually flake. What sounds better? "Would you like to study sometime?" Or "We are going dancing on Friday, I'm picking you up at 7:00"

4. After done studying for a couple hours, I say I have to go, and that we should hang out sometime to celebrate that this test is over.

Again here you are not definite in your plans. What does "hang out sometime" mean? Girls want definite plans, definite action. You should be telling her "We are doing this Friday night, be ready when I pick you up."

5. They are enthusiastic or agreeable about it, with "Yeah we should totally go celebrate"

6. The minute I phone/text/MSN to make plans, they flake out with "Oh I have plans, maybe some other time", "Oh I'm going shopping that day", "I'm working"

Has happened like 5 times.. argh

Your approach is great but you are having trouble closing the deal. Like they said, give them a reason to come back to you. If a girl you were on the fence about wanted to study with you and then after she said "we should celebrate after the test" and then emailed you saying "lets go for a coffee", you would make some excuse too and bail.

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[randalll]

if a girl does flake on you (texts you and sais she's not gonna be able to make it) ..whats the best thing to text back
(you've only known her half a week)

i just replied with "kk no problem, cya soon x"

would you guys take that approach too? or ignore her, or what?

 

[Mad Manic]

I meet girls only at school (got tired of clubbing), this is what I do:

1. Approach girls in class, labs, ask them a neutral question to break the ice, then just start talking to them to get to know them better.
2. Get their phone number / email [add to MSN] / facebook (never been rejected for this)
3. Ask to study together sometime. Almost always they say yes to this.
4. After done studying for a couple hours, I say I have to go, and that we should hang out sometime to celebrate that this test is over..
5. They are enthusiastic or agreeable about it, with "Yeah we should totally go celebrate"
6. The minute I phone/text/MSN to make plans, they flake out with "Oh I have plans, maybe some other time", "Oh I'm going shopping that day", "I'm working"

Hey, I think I know what the problem is. When you tell them that you should go out and celebrate that the test is over, this usually means (in a girl's world) going out with a group of friends and having a laugh, usually involving alcohol. Therefore if you want to close the deal then you're going to need to celebrate my merging groups for at least one night, or going out with a group and inviting her. Basically you require a display of social proof the way you set it up. If you're trying to meet her again one on one to close the deal, you're going to need to get her to meet up for something more simple. Infact, maybe meeting to study, then getting a bite to eat after, then escalating and taking her back to your place is your best chance. And yes I am talking from experience.

MM

 

[saber]

when you meet to study at one of your houses dont even bother opening the fvcking book...just screw around and kiss her....the study date is an excuse to hangout and fool aorund