"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Karma, the approaches myself, Quik, and Alex have posted will all work, at different paces granted. However, since Alex has more experience than myself and Quik combined I recommenced taking his advice over the both of ours, as I don't pretend to know as much as he does. Whilst what we have posted is similar you'd do best to stick to one approach. Just incase things were getting confusing...

Quagmire
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I forgot about the diabetic part, I suppose listen to Alex about the carbs.

Though what have you been eating to gain that much weight if it wasn't carbs?

And for the record, 34 years old is still young.

The good side about your situation, Karma, is that since you're a diabetic you've had to develop more self-discipline than most, which in theory should help with this undertaking.
 

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The point is that everyone (but older guys especially) need a lowcarb LIFESTYLE, not a quick fix.

And seriously, once you make the transition over to being a fat burner you will never go back. The thing is that you cannot become a 'true' fat burning metabolism if you include carbs chronically.
 

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Each of your perspectives are extremely valuable and appreciated.

Tonight for dinner is 5 burned hot dogs (I like them that way :D ). More veggies and for dessert I have sugar free Jello cups.

At 0500 I hit the gym. I will be making some adjustments to my routine. I'm going to take far less time between sets so I can squeeze in some Cardio that way. I'm also not going to kill my energy with treadmill work. Perhaps a 5 - 10 minute warmup but that's it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Kerpal said:
Some good information in this thread. I was wondering, what kind of vegetables are you eating Karma? I literally eat NO vegetables right now and really need to start, but I just always forget about them when I go shopping, I skip right over that section, and I know I'm missing out on a lot of health benefits.
Usually I eat California blend in the five pound bag (Broccoli, Cauliflower and carrots) I like corn, though there is more sugar than I'm allowed so I limit myself. Spinach is my all time favorite though. Straight out of the can.

Italian style green beans are awesome cooked in a crock pot with some bacon.

No potatoes or rice for me.
 

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Just making sure your doing that daily cardio, saw you posted about your workouts but didn't see anything about the cardio.
 

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Breakfast was 4 eggs and 7 small sausage patties.

Ok, I did it. I swallowed a raw egg. Not as bad as I thought but what popped into my mind afterwards is the thought that maybe this is what gay men and chicks who swallow go through?

It's not for me. But I can say I did it.

I'm eating some sliced turkey breast then a couple hours of sleep and hitting the gym.

EFFORT,

Yes I am getting my cardio in but on the advice of council I'm not going to do it when I get there, rather I'm going to take less time between sets and then jump on the mill or bike or elliptical when Iim done with the real work.
 

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For a shake use: Two scoops flavoured whey+4 raw eggs+some water-Then use a blender. I promise you you will not know raw eggs are in there. You may need more or less calories for a shake, you just have to adjust the number of eggs to suit.
Karma, karma, karma. I don't know about the other guys but I'm sure most of them don't take eggs fully raw on there own, I wouldn't be for that either.

I posted the above in an earlier post, you are meant to blend them with other things. Give the above a shot, you can add double cream if you like and I can assure you it will not be unpleasant, especially if you use the cream.

Quagmire
 

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KarmaSutra said:
EFFORT,

Yes I am getting my cardio in but on the advice of council I'm not going to do it when I get there, rather I'm going to take less time between sets and then jump on the mill or bike or elliptical when Iim done with the real work.
I'd rather you did cardio seperate from weights for two metabolic booster shots in a day - you need them.

also don't worry about megadosing eggs for now. when we're in muscle gain mode is when you need to be taking in 12-24 a day
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Warboss, to get on the same page I'm to take 30 seconds to a minute between sets then after the weight work I do my cardio? Or should I take a little longer between sets too and rep out each set?
 

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I believe he means do cardio in the morning, and work out in the afternoon. So you're getting two seperate sessions in.
 

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yeah, I mean two seperate sessions as far away from each other as possible.

your stats and bf suggest a very slow metabolism, which needs as much coaxing as possible to raise its rate of calorie burn. raising it through cardio, allowing it to settle down again and then raise it again through weights will make it more efficient at energy expenditure and also raise your basal metabolism (as opposed to one 'high' through weight training and then cardio immediately after).
 

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Thank you for the clarification.

Now, which is best for optimal gains, cardio in the morning or evening?

For dinner I have chicken legs ( this time the skin is all mine! ) and CA veggies and corn.

Gym in the morning and then again in the evening.

Oh and proof is in my blood sugar levels. In 4 days it hasn't gotten over 123.

Fvck yes.:rockon:
 

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You want to try and do cardio in the am after waking up. You have some whey beforehand so you aren't in a catabolic state.

Btw you didn't log in the last 24 hours this is blasphemy! Don't think you're giving up now, heh joke :D

Keep it up,

Quagmire
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Quagmire911 said:
You want to try and do cardio in the am after waking up. You have some whey beforehand so you aren't in a catabolic state.
catabolism isn't an issue here.. at this stage maximal calorie expenditure and controlling insulin is our goal. plus as a beginner you're not carrying enough muscle to make it a viable fuel source for cardio

once Karma hits up some heavy training we can take these precautions, right now they're not needed.

anti-catabolic pre-cardio food is an unnecessary measure right now. basics first.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Oh and proof is in my blood sugar levels. In 4 days it hasn't gotten over 123.

Fvck yes.:rockon:
Hey Karma, great job. Just a little support, you have a lot of people here rooting for you. You can achieve anything you put your mind too.

Oh, and for a healthy low-carb snack tip, try all-natural real peanut butter and celery (my fav, I had to at least contribute something that hasn't already been said.)

Keep up the good work!!
 

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Oh and proof is in my blood sugar levels. In 4 days it hasn't gotten over 123.

Fvck yes.:rockon:
I missed this - that's awesome dude. This is what we're striving for, insulin management and conditioning. Major fat loss/muscle gain comes in time but your health is paramount.

See, and you all thought chicken skin was gonna kill you.. :rolleyes:
 

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Karma, karma, karma. I don't know about the other guys but I'm sure most of them don't take eggs fully raw on there own, I wouldn't be for that either.
I mix them in a pint glass with cream and down it. :rockon:
 

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Saturday:

My internet was fvcked up so I couldn't update.

Here it is:

breakfast - sausage patties and 4 eggs.

Lunch I had 2 burned hot dogs and spinach.

Went to the gym and did squats
1x10 145
3x5 235 (added 10 pounds per set)

seated shoulder presses
4x100

Decline bech presses
3x100

I then did 15 minutes of cardio on the new Treadmaster. Kicked my ass. It's a hybrid treadmill/stairmaster. Gold's closed at 2000 so I split.

Dinner - ham and turkey breast w/ cheese in low carb / flax seed pitas.

Dessert was 2 cups of sugar free jell-o.

I fell asleep during the 4th inning of the Sox game then awoke during the 6th in a pool of sweat and shaking. My sugar had bottomed out to 70. I ate 3 bananas, a handful of grapes and some sugar free vanilla pudding to get it up to par.

This is one of the dangers of being diabetic.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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