"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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HeyPachuco!

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Okay, well I was on my way home from my cousins drink up party (8.30pm) and I see this girl I'd been trying to game for months. She was on her way to ASDA, so I followed her, I do "everything" what I've basically learned in the few months, everything( DHV,LMR,crazy Kino,Negging) and just acting like I hadn't seen her in ages but treating her like I was her bratty older bro.

Anyway, we sit next to some benches across from ASDA as she says shes going to wait for her friend ( She had just come back from there ). I put my leg over her lap and touch the back of her neck, she follows through with poking my sides playfully, I do some Mystery sh!t and said something like "thats gonna cost ya" constant push & pull. I said shes adorable and she sulks and says you're meant to say beautiful.

So her friend turns up ( I introduce myself/ handshake - she steers at me afterwards) and she has the biggest B!tch shield up, as I show IOD, I eavesdrop on the conversation and the friend says "Well atleast hes not ugly, like your last ex", then they mock this guy about him having PE in at a cinema.

As we get pass ASDA, the friends mom turns up behind us, walking like she was going to murder anyone one of us, CRAZY AS HELL, she throws a cup of coffee at her daughter ( the friend ) and says get your Fvcking a.s.s home in some spanish accent, the mom was actually hot. So the friend is like wtf,walks off embarrased and taking blows, I'm trying to hold in my laughter, but then suddenly the mom turns around shouting that I've been in her house:confused:, then the chick I'm gaming shouts "NO HE WASNT", mom says shes going to call her mom.

So good thing, the mom actually intervened, because I was beginning to think I'd get no action. So now its just me and this chick, we walk through some dark pathway and found a block of stairs close to the ASDA entrance.

I say I'm cold and she holds onto me, actually grabbing. Silent awkwardness, so I tilt my head and stear in her eyes, then k-close, went perfectly. She starts biting my neck, kissing my chin, un-doing her jeans, I shove my hand down her nickers, she kinda hesistated, then I say "I gotta go" LMR, LMR, LMR, LMR, LMR !!!! till she took my own hand and shoved it down her nick nacks. Some lady walks past and she quickly pulls her jeans up, I say some LMR sh!t and then she "sighed" and begins to pull her jeans up again.

Get to her house (5min walk), her mom and brother are in. I'm like why dont we go upstairs, but she says her rooms messy??? she says this in a way where I cant make up anything else to come with. So, then the mom asks where I know her from, chick whispers to say from High School.

Mom makes me some tea and goes out to walk the dog, so then I'm like well I should get going, then she says no, stay, I say I need to buy some ciggerettes from the shop, we go to the shop, k-close again, but no 2nd base. Lady at the shop wont give me ciggerettes because I look too young or some bullsh!t like that. Anyhow, I ask her how I get home from her area, she gives directions and says will I see her tommorow, but I act like I didnt hear her. All I need now is the f-close. But, ****, it seems like shes flaking the f-close on purpose even when I'm still LMR'ing her.

Suggestions for Day 3?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Lol see dude, the guys that actually do the correct thing, get the closes and somehow seems like its the right path - get ZILCH advice on fully closing it. But the noobs, afc recoverers (ridiculous) and guys who dont approach get the world of step 1-2 on what to do, because its easy to just give away advice on something you did to 100 noobs here previously, right?

Then you get guys who want to end a close because a girl called him "Sweet" LMFAO. man, there is seemingly a barrel bucket of SS crabs at times here. That seem to open there gobs on does looks matter, failed attempt approaches and if fvcking marriage is relative or not threads.

I'm at 3rd base, I'm at the helm, NOW WHAT THE EFF DO I DO? if she still resists LMR?
 

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what is ASDA and LMR?

but imo just keep doing what you're doing. she did put your hands back down her panties didnt she..
 

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seano99 said:
what is ASDA and LMR?

but imo just keep doing what you're doing. she did put your hands back down her panties didnt she..
ASDA - is a large British supermarket complex, its a subsidiary of a Wal-mart in the states.

LMR - A noun, [Last Minute Resistance] an occurrence, often after kissing, in which a woman who desires a man prevents him, through words or actions, from progressing toward more intimate sexual contact, such as removing her bra, putting his hand down her pants, or penetration.

In this case I was LMRing her, to gain her trust.
 

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HeyPachuco! said:
LMR - A noun, [Last Minute Resistance] an occurrence, often after kissing, in which a woman who desires a man prevents him, through words or actions, from progressing toward more intimate sexual contact, such as removing her bra, putting his hand down her pants, or penetration.
That sounds correct, EXCEPT the word desires should be replaced with does not desire.

I've had a girl give me this LMR you talk of, but only when she wasn't interested.

In this case I was LMRing her, to gain her trust.
Why would you do that if you wanted to fsck someone? You basically told the girl you weren't interested. Maybe you confused her so much she clammed up? We can't know.

Now let me add, I've never heard about LMR. I'd say she showed you some LMR by not going upstairs.

You're probably not getting many replies because it's too complex, there are not enough details to really give good advice. We just cant know.

You just need to hang out with her again and go for it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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