Justin Bieber

[Thomson]

Personally, I love this guy. He does such great art.

If a guy who has millions of girls wanting him is not 'Alpha' then who is?

I wanna hear some deep insight into this. Whetever he is a real genius or just a slump lucky 'homo' guy.

 

[Jaylan]

Lol is this a troll thread?

Either way I have no problem with the kid. He gets all the hate he does online manly from jealous haters who are following the "lets make fun of Bieber" trend. Thats all it is really. Its become cool to make fun of him, the same way it was cool to make fun of boy bands back in the day.

I give the kid props. He knows how to write music, has a good voice, which leads to an obvious display of talent. Hes young, successful, rich, and good looking. No reason for me to hate on him, but plenty of reason for other to hate on him as hes always in the spotlight. I dont really care about his life. Hes like any other young person with some of the silly things he does, but because hes famous it gets blow out of proportion by the media and haters.

I will compare him to Justin Timberlake, who everyone all of a sudden started to love once he reached his 20s and went solo. Sure, Bieber is more bratty than JT ever was, but their career paths will be similar in my opinion.

JT started in poppy music which teenage girls loved, and he got many haters because of it. Then he moved onto more R&B and soulful flavored music as an adult, and grew into his sex appeal as he physically matured. Instantly people started riding his jock. Add several SNL hosting appearances, and appearances in other media where hes being funny, and now people love him.

Bieber does R&B and soulful type stuff to go along with his obviously pop style, but hes not mature yet to have most of the public switch on him. Once he grows into a man, enters his 20s, and matures mentally and physically, everyone will be jock riding him just like they did JT.

 

[Thomson]

Yes. I liked this post-answer. This was no troll. Especially after the big deal on the maroon 5 guy, who got nasty hates even by moderator. He was simply doing his arts and getting women. I simply got the idea of talking about Justin. We can see very clearly from answers whetever the guy knows something about life or not.

Yes. Justin is still in his teens and his fans hasn't matured either. Pop fits him perfectly, for now.

And I liked the answer you gave from the haters also. Hate comes from jealousy. That is the deepest form of hatred.

 

[LorenzoVonM]

Justin Bieber is a product put together by a group of people to make money. He is seen as all those people as a meal ticket. They direct him and make decisions for him in terms of his career. Who knows how much say he has and how much actual control over his own life he exhibits. He is a commodity like a boy band.
He doesn't write his "hit" songs. He may appear as a co-writer, but you can get those credits by adding a line to a song. All the writing is done by the hit-makers. He has an okay voice and has dance moves. There are thousands of kids around the world that could fill the same role but were not picked by Usher to produce.

I don't hate on the kid, I actually like pop music for what it is. And good for him that he found success. I'm just pulling back the curtain on what many pop acts are. And as far as being an Alpha, who knows? Depends on your definition. What if you saw him and Selena Gomez out and she had him completely *****-whipped? Probably wouldn't call him an Alpha then. And how much control does he exhibit over his life? I don't think we have enough info to determine.

 

[zinc4]

Justin Bieber is a product put together by a group of people to make money. He is seen as all those people as a meal ticket. They direct him and make decisions for him in terms of his career. Who knows how much say he has and how much actual control over his own life he exhibits. He is a commodity like a boy band.
He doesn't write his "hit" songs. He may appear as a co-writer, but you can get those credits by adding a line to a song. All the writing is done by the hit-makers. He has an okay voice and has dance moves. There are thousands of kids around the world that could fill the same role but were not picked by Usher to produce.

I don't hate on the kid, I actually like pop music for what it is. And good for him that he found success. I'm just pulling back the curtain on what many pop acts are. And as far as being an Alpha, who knows? Depends on your definition. What if you saw him and Selena Gomez out and she had him completely *****-whipped? Probably wouldn't call him an Alpha then. And how much control does he exhibit over his life? I don't think we have enough info to determine.

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The problem a lot of people have with Bieber and all of the other crap music of today is it's not real music produced by real artists.....if you think Bieber is anything to close to an artist then that speaks volumes about what you know about music in general. It's all just fluff catchy tunes produced on computers that are mean't for night clubs and tennie bopper joints and such yet they have caught on world wide....it's insane how dumbed down the majority of the music is these days...

Not all of it of course....

There isn't anything close in this day and age to groups and artists like the Beatles, the Doors, Pink Floyd, Johnny Cash, Bob Marley.....the list goes on and on.....even as far as pop music goes, there is no Michael Jackson, no Billy Idol, Prince, Kiss, Elton John...you name it....many others.......most of the artists in this day and age are utter crap in comparison in any genre including even country music....no legendary type guys like Cash, Garth Brooks, Hank Williams, Hank Williams Jr., George Straight, Waylon Jennings, Elvis.

People like Bieber, and the other current pop sensations chart toppers with perhaps a few exceptions here and there just a huge drop off from the older days. They don't have the talent nor the fire that existed before.

On a personal level, I have nothing against Bieber and would be doing the same in his shoes at his age....i would probably be more out of control and punkish acting then he is at his current age.....however, I do have a problem with him and others like him topping the music charts when their music is complete manufactured bubble gum crap after bubble gum crap. And i also have a problem with their music catching on world wide and setting the very low standard......just like here in Taiwan all of the girls love that kind of music and they just look so incredibly dumb to me...not just the younger girls, but the older ones as well, late 20s and 30s.

And someone mentioned the boy bands of the 90s...i even much preferred them to Bieber's music.

 

[Thomson]

Yes. Every post-answers I try to absorb as deep as possible, before answering-back.

If we compare. He is not talented to the talented people. I am not very aware of the talented stuff, I don't know much music history. Tr only thing I know is that I have passion for music and a deep joy arises whenever I sing, dance, play. For me, it does not matter whetever the whole world says I am bad at music but as far as joy arises as I can feel a deep passion arising whenever I do music, that is far more than enough.

So if we compare Justin to his ancestors, I do believe that he is nowhere near the talented ones. One thing amazes me tough, is his ability to attract people. He must be the most famous by now. And the fact that he can make millions of kids having so much joy just seeing him perform - that I call a genius art.

I have many. Many friends, since I'm at my teens myself and especially friends who are few years younger, yes girls, tell me their experiences.. And you can feel from their gestures, eyes that what they felt was something exceptional.

So as far as I am concerned, his talent on making music may not be very talented. But the level of attracting people his age is something else. Totally different league.

 

[Groovy]

Justin Bieber is a disgrace to our society and real nature.

His clips, for one, promote being "pretty" being "cool", when, in reality, **** what others think of you. His whole attitude is wrong and inhumane. He pisses in mup buckets. He gets angry at news reporters- of course, it is all staged, so we can see it and "hate" on him. It bring attention, and distracts us from what is good and pure in the world. Just mind control mechanisms from "up there". I have my own definition of cool, so how dare you shove into my throat what "cool" is. We are all equally cool, in a sense. We should live in harmony and peace with eachothers. He is also NOT that good at attracting people. You are deluded. Thomson. Snap out of it. Brain-washing is a form of attraction, but brain washing is not good, it destroys our very essence.

A lot of people hate this kid, he is just famous, and keeps being famous, because of the powers that be. They put him all over the media with NO BASIS except that we allow this to happen. No talent. Unfair to the good artists.

As an extra, hear his song baby in reverse. This is SUBLIMINAL MENTAL MANIPULATION guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgphZB5lzT0

http://images5.fanpop.com/image/pho...Illuminati-justin-bieber-30848102-318-335.jpg

 

[DanZy]

He attracts people because his music is so fvcking dumbed down and simple. It's musical junk food: cheap and appealing to the masses but ultimately utter crap. Once grows up a little and loses his feminine looks (he's not good looking by any means, he looks like a little girl and thus he's appealing to them), his career is gone. He's going to be your standard disney train-wreck.

It's honestly disgusting that such an untalented child has become so famous, our society rewards stupidity which he possesses in bulk.