Just saw an old 6 which was my fvck buddy at the club

[Who Dares Win]

Ok this girl is barely bangable, nothing you would brag with your friends but still good enough to have some no string attached sex, I had sex with her about 4-5 times in a 3 months time span mostly to prevent dry spells.

All I had to do was call her and she would come to my place in two hours, sometime I fel guilty so bought her a pizza for dinner or bought some choccolate for when we finished, anyway she was the kind of girl which was to me what afc are to women.

Now just saw her at the club with a guy which perfectly fits the stereotipical description of friendzoned guy, you know goofy haircut, little chubby with a large waistline, happy/dumb facial expression and eyes of a trained dog.

Well she came with him, made him pay for both and took him to the bar where they started drinking (guess he paid again) and surprisingly and with no shame she was giving space to the guys hitting on her while they were sitting close.

Let me be clear they were sitting at the bar togheter and she was talking with guys hitting on her while the poor bastard was close on her left in silence and with a friendly face (as if he had to show that he wanted to be friend to those guys)...after that I simply moved to do other stuff so cant really know what happened but whatever I read her, something worse can be seen outside.

What I tought was I treated that girl quite poorly if I have to be honest and sometime felt bad about it but she really made worse, probably there is some kind of ladder where according to your step you can get away with a bad behaviour against people below you, its not the behaviour itself that matters in the dating world but where you are in the ladder.

So an other confirmation that best suggestion is not to focus on what have to be done but in who we need to be, much better to use energy to be on top and be allowed to screw up as much as you want than being on bottom and get damage no matter how good you behave.

Of course is just a theory but still its an other piece in the bigger theory that game has his limits if you dont enough value yourself.

 

[Solomon]

The more value you have in a girls eyes the more you can treat her like shyt

I'm a firm believer that the higher value you are to a woman the more she will bend her rules for you i.e. phuck you faster, buy you stuff, let you treat her like crap etc.

If you don't have that value you have to jump thru hoops of taking her on dates, buying her stuff, etc

I have experienced both of this (not KJING here) but I have banged hot chicks right away without having to do much. But on the flipside I had to take some wack broads on dates do all work just to get nothing

Value matters in the game...a lot

 

[CrimsonPanther]

i have a story similar to this.

there was 6-7 girl i have met 5 years ago on hi5 (lol ancient i know), she wasn't a hottie, but had beautiful blue eyes. also she was quite stupid, bordering retarded in my opinion. i don't say this to belittle her, i still think she is a good person.

it was mostly experiment back then, what is her limit with me being forward and kind of a jerk to her in the sense that i would only call her when i wanted sex, telling her i love her, and made her tell the same to me while in fact i didn't really care.

she is a very shy girl and i loved to push her limits (for example i grabbed her titties under her shirt in a park in full day). she was very reluctant but in the end she complied with everything i wanted, and once a month she came to me, i boned her, came in her mouth and sent her home. sometimes she felt humiliated and started crying, then i comforted her, and was in general nice to her. she had a low self esteem, and i have a way to make this kind feel wanted and feminine by applying the hot/cold approach and generally acting like a gentleman with her, combined with cheeky and kinky stuff. i never told her how beautiful here eyes are but complimented her on things i knew she was self conscious about. i rarely called her, but i replied promptly and positive to her texts and calls.

now she has a boyfriend, who is an acquaintance of mine who put her on a pedestal. she told him she is a virgin. i told him, the girl is not that innocent as it seems, but he took it the wrong way and told me i wanted to destroy his happiness. i said ok nevermind, and didn't talk about it since. they are happy together, and they will marry next march. the guy is still a virgin and wanting to prove himself to her by waiting with sex until after marriage. in the eyes of that guy, the girl is "quality" because she told him she is a virgin.

the girl still comes to me once every 2-3 months to "talk". i still bone her, and she goes home.

it's a fooked up world.

 

[JdelaSilviera]

Yep, I thought that a few times. I do genuinely feel bad when make others feel badly, but if it´s them or me, I have no problem making that decision.

The women who don´t answer your calls, and act spoiled with you, are sweet, obedient puppies when a strong guy comes along.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Good post and a reminder that one should never feel guilty about "using" a woman for sex. Feeling guilty about such things is an AFC tendency that must suppressed at all costs.