Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Just noticed that gf has cold sores

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Oh HSV.

She has the herpes virus lying dormant in the nerves of her mouth.

When the virus reactivates, in her case due to stress, it shows up as a sore.

This is most likely HSV-1.

If you kiss her while she has the sore, or let her around your genitalia, you have a very high chance of catching it yourself.

Also keep in mind that sometimes there is shedding of the virus even after the sores have disappeared. There is no way to tell when the shedding ends.

So my advice is to just stay away from that area of her face until a few days after the sore heals.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Gangster Of Love said:
Apparently you can't even read, either.
It's the same virus in different spots. It is an std. The hsv2 test is worthless.

These are the types of things you would know if you were not possibly the biggest idiot on this web site. Your ignorance is your own business, until you turn yourself into the Sosuave Guru of STD Misinformation. You have every right to your own stupidity; I'm sure it's bliss. But please stop trying to give advice about herpes. Your wrong-and-strong ignorance is dangerous.

The good news is that, unlike people who might get herpes by following your advice, you can be cured. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes

http://www.dmoz.org/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Infectious_Diseases/Viral/Herpes/
 

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Bible_Belt said:
It's the same virus in different spots. It is an std. The hsv2 test is worthless.

These are the types of things you would know if you were not possibly the biggest idiot on this web site. Your ignorance is your own business, until you turn yourself into the Sosuave Guru of STD Misinformation. You have every right to your own stupidity; I'm sure it's bliss. But please stop trying to give advice about herpes. Your wrong-and-strong ignorance is dangerous.

The good news is that, unlike people who might get herpes by following your advice, you can be cured. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herpes

http://www.dmoz.org/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Infectious_Diseases/Viral/Herpes/
You really put me in my place, didn't you? :eek: Thank you very much for qualifiying yourself to me. :cool: Very sensitive, aren't we? What are you, a brainless bumpkin? Is this the way you communicate everytime you don't agree with somebody about something? By the way you speak, you come across as an even bigger idiot, although I am sure you're not, err, well, I am not sure at this point, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

In your attempt to forever impress us with your wisdom, you missed the whole point. It's alright man, I can't compete. Now, forgive yourself for having a small penis. :flowers: Really, it is ok. Go get laid man, don't be so uptight man. The main point was: Very low risk situation if he uses common sense.

The percentage of people who have been exposed or are infected with hsv1 is high, and most don't have symptoms. You probably have it, and either know it or are not even aware. You probably have kissed somebody who has the virus, and most likely didn't show symptoms. I am sure you carry an Oral Herpes test kit in your glove compartment and you pull it out before kissing anybody.

There is one thing I do disagree with you about. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE TEST FOR HSV2 BEING WORTHLESS. That is where your title of "Biggest Idiot On This Website" type of comments really make me wonder about you. There is more than one test. Did you know that? The newer tests are much better than previous versions, yet still produce some false positive/negative results. There is one that is reliable, according to the people who are experts at this; people I trust more on these issues than you. It is called Western Blot, by the University of Washington. It is costly, yet accurate. Embrace new info and technology, professor.

In your attempt to show your nasty, compensating attitude, you resort to personal attacks on sombody you don't even know. :cry: You're an angry little man. Bro, don't take yourself so seriously. Are all of your posts full of this type of anger? Not 100% sure about you, but people who don't get laid are angry. :cuss: Just sayin'.

Yes, I can also post links to support arguments that I agree with, but it isn't about that. Anbody can look this stuff up. Chief, I agreed with you about the main issue (wether it can be transmited orally) and you still get all bent.

So what are the options for the original poster, and all of us, when dealing with a girl who, god forbid, has or has had cold sores?

1. Possible, yet unlikely, that he will contract oral herpes (hsv1) in the genitals if he uses common sense and avoids any contact while the sores are there. Duh!!!

2. Very likely he is already an asymptomatic carrier of it, as are most of us.

3. Should he stay away from this one? Maybe, but his risks would be just the same on the next girl he tries to kiss or be involved with, as she probably is a carrier of this practically harmless hsv1 virus. Should he walk around asking every potential mate, "have you ever had a cold sore, even when you were a child and hadn't had sex before?" :crazy: Should he live in a bubble? Should he avoid anybody who has ever had the flu?

4. Be careful and avoid the high risk situations, as in visible sores, etc., and understand that any sex, yes, even with virgins (as they are most likely have had cold sores as children), carries some type of risk, although mimimal, and enjoy life without being a paranoid tool.

Peeps, there are nastier diseases out there you should educate yourself on, panic, and worry about more. Common sense should tell you what to do about kissing somebody with cold sores, the common cold, the flu, etc.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Don't worry about it. It's not that big of a deal. I had a friend when I was in 5th grade (we were TEN, and not yet gettin pvssy) who got them all the time. It's not like she was suckin on some dude's dong and all of the sudden got a cold sore on her face.
 

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Cvmstain Of Love said:
There is one thing I do disagree with you about. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT THE TEST FOR HSV2 BEING WORTHLESS.
http://www.herpesdiagnosis.com/blood.html

Western blot. The other test available is the University of Washington's Western blot test. This test is is very accurate but is more expensive than the others and takes longer to perform. This test is not widely available and is not FDA approved. It is used as a reference test. However, it may be worth it to have your serum sent for Western blot if the HerpeSelect test result is indeterminate (not definitively positive or negative) or very low positive. Some local and reference labs will send specimens on to the UW Virology Lab for Western blot. Or, your provider may choose to send your serum directly.


The problem with the tests is that the tests say some people who never get any sores have herpes. But if you never get sores and never transmit the disease, how can they say you have it? That's why the tests are stupid. What they call accuracy is pointless. Herpes is getting sores. No sores, no herpes. Asymptomatic viral shedding is possible, but science has a dim understanding of it at best. Dim people such as yourself should not even approach the subject.

In your attempt to show your nasty, compensating attitude, you resort to personal attacks on sombody you don't even know.

Like you know me? Have you been married for seven years to woman with herpes? No, but you're a self-proclaimed expert on this subject. There are people on sosuave who have herpes, live with people with herpes. Who the fvck are you?
 

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I am your mother. That is who I am.

"Herpes is getting sores. No sores, no herpes"????? You're kidding me, right?


Hahaha, now I know you're talking out of your ass. To say that if you don't have sores you don't have herpes is by far, the most idiotic, and there are plenty of those in here, statement I've read in a long time.


If you are, not you mr. braintrust, hsv2 positive, without symptoms, and don't even know you have it, and pass it to someone new, who happens to break out with a couple of weeks after because they got exposed to it after having sex with you, guess what? You have herpes. PERIOD. END OF STORY.

You decide to put your cut and paste skills to use, and deliverately use quotes/sites that support your arguments, while leaving out, or ignoring the stuff that doesn't. According to every reliable stat, 20-25% of adults are infected with herpes, hsv2. About 80-90% don't even know they are infected, because the don't breakouts/sores. THEY HAVE HERPES!!!!!

The test, YOU don't believe in it, but the people who have worked for decades, the experts, use it as the only reliable test.

Listen to yourself. Now that is what I call dangerous stupidity on these boards. I never claimed to be an expert on this, just have read stuff and spoken to people who are experts in that particular field. If you choose to remain in the "what you dont' know, won't hurt you" club by making asinide statements like "Herpes is getting sores. No sores, no herpes." Jeezuz. What da fvck are you smokin'?

Pal, Ignorance is not bliss! Now I see how you were projecting that on me earlier with your attacks.

Don't talk to me anymore. You are a creep. OH, btw, go get laid; you are way too young to be that angry.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
The problem with the tests is that the tests say some people who never get any sores have herpes. But if you never get sores and never transmit the disease, how can they say you have it? That's why the tests are stupid. What they call accuracy is pointless. Herpes is getting sores. No sores, no herpes. Asymptomatic viral shedding is possible, but science has a dim understanding of it at best. Dim people such as yourself should not even approach the subject.



:eek: "Gosh. IDIOT!!!!" (in Napoleon Dynamite tone).:whistle:

Ladies and gentlemen, you read it above. After what I just read above, I guess that makes me the SECOND biggest idiot in this site.

Experts and scientists have a dim understanding at best? But you stick to the "If I don't see it, I don't have it" philosophy. Sure Bob! I know who I rather listen to. That's for sure.

Too moronic for words. Seriously. I don't know if I should laugh or be sad. So I'll check out of this thread. Tired of dealing with mental midgets. You win. You're the man.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Relax...its likely just HSV-1 (more correct human herpes virus 1, HHV1). Just don't kiss or have do oral sex on you when she has an outbreak (or feels the tingling that usually accurs as dormant HSV is reactivated moves from the nerve plexus down the axon to the peripheral nerves). UV light and stress reactivates the dormant HHV episome (circular viral DNA).

Gangster of Love, Luveno, and I are in Firm agreement.

"Asymptomatic viral shedding is possible, but science has a dim understanding of it at best. Dim people such as yourself should not even approach the subject." NOT TRUE.

HSV-1 and HSV-2 are distinct viruses, as many posters prior have suggested their preferred location.

Drum and Bass, Correction. 'Chickenpox' is caused by the varicella-zoster virus (VZV), also known as human herpes virus 3 (HHV-3).

Ever read Fields Virology textbook? The 2 volume edition at 3000+ pages.

I had girlfriend for a year who had HSV-1, she knew exactly when she was having and outbreak, and took topical antiviral medication when she felt the tingling. I did not contract HSV-1.

So lets worry about more important things like wearing your seatbelt or not drinking and driving. This is not a reason to break up with a girl.

Cheers,
RD
 

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OMFG this is CRAZY!!

Most of the population get coldsores!! Its a form of the herpes virus but its NOT the same as genital herpes.

Coldsores = HSV1 of the virus
Genital herpes = HSV2 of the virus


but yes you could get a form of genital herpes, say if she gave you a ******* and she had a coldsore at the time. But it'd be the HSV1 virus which isnt really 'home' at a genital area, it'll be less potent than 'genital herpes' as we know it and would probably be hard to actually catch.

Also, if you already get coldsores (which most people do), you've already got this HSV1 virus and in that case you wont get it again in the genitals, you've already got it in your mouth and your body will have antibodies for it coming again in a new area.


Would you dump someone for having the flu virus? No because its normal. Having cold sore isnt abnormal at all.
 

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Having a visible cold sore on the outer lip is no longer a cold sore, its an oral herpes outbreak whether is hsv1 or 2 doesnt matter, both have been spread from the mouth to the fancy stick and back, seriously get out of there or one morning you will wake up and itll look and feel like someone dropped sulfuric acid all over your lips and mouth. and it never goes away. My cousin just married a girl who told him she has herpes...hes still with her because no other options. dont be that guy.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
OH, btw, go get laid; you are way too young to be that angry.
You know, I just now did, and you're absolutely right. I feel a lot better.

I apologize for my irrational anger and name-calling. We are too small of a community to fight amongst ourselves. So, sorry about that. Peace.
 

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The Inside Man said:
Having a visible cold sore on the outer lip is no longer a cold sore, its an oral herpes outbreak whether is hsv1 or 2 doesnt matter, both have been spread from the mouth to the fancy stick and back, seriously get out of there or one morning you will wake up and itll look and feel like someone dropped sulfuric acid all over your lips and mouth. and it never goes away. My cousin just married a girl who told him she has herpes...hes still with her because no other options. dont be that guy.
do you mean genital herpes or just cold sores?

because if you're just talking about coldsores then thats hilarious and so uneducated
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Bible_Belt said:
You know, I just now did, and you're absolutely right. I feel a lot better.

I apologize for my irrational anger and name-calling. We are too small of a community to fight amongst ourselves. So, sorry about that. Peace.

:up: Haha. I can't believe I actually feel better about your response. Good to hear that. I should go take my own advice now, and get some!
 
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