“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Just lost my Virginity!

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Hello again my fellow Don Juans... I know many of you guys are glad to hear from me again - Especially, since I haven't been writing any significant posts about what has been going on in my life recently. But to tell you guys the truth, my life has never been better!

As most of you know, I am probably one of the youngest Don Juans on this site. I have been on this site close to two years now (since I was a 16-year-old kid in High School), but now I am an 18-year-old College kid who only started his first term several weeks ago...

Keep your eyes out for an official "OTB's College Adventure Thread" :yes:

So here is why I am posting this to you guys today. Compared to the pitiful existence I lived at the beginning of my high school days, I am a completely different man in College. As soon as I onto my campus, the ultra-confident manner in which I carried myself caused all onlookers to immediately label me as a "Player." To be completely honest with myself, this is a label that I wear proudly. :up:

So as not to confuse you with all of the numerous beautiful women that I have managed to charm over the last several weeks (there will be a whole seperate thread devoted to that), I will turn our attention to the topic at hand.

There has been this fine (HB8) girl that has been feeling me for quite sometime... She and I both live in the same dorm and on the same floor. And before some of you guys go ahead and berate me for messing with a on the same floor as me, I will have to ask you guys one question... What is the worst thing that can possibly happen? Sure this b1tch might get angry and cause thsome melodrama... My answer to this "worst-case" scenario is So Fvcking What?! Our ability to create drama, feel anger and experience the whole wide-ranging plethora of emotions is what makes us human. This is what seperates us from the poor, soul-less individuals who waste their life away sitting in front of a computer all day in order to gain money by doing a boring, monotonous job that stands for absolutely nothing in the long run. This is why unlike many insecure males (I cannot call them "men" in full confidence) out there, I always say ------> Bring on the drama!

Now back to the b1tch... I have been messing with this girl's mind since I first laid eyes on her. (And no, this does not mean that I have been emotionally abusing her in any way whatsoever. This just means I have been implementing the same exact kind of mindfvcking tactics that women use on men all of the time. Only in this rare circumstance, I was able to flip the script in order to use it towards the advantage of the male ;-) When first meeting her, I smoothly introduced myself and established a notion that I was one of the most dominant males she had ever met in her entire life. Within no time, she believed me to be some sort of "God's gift to women" and became enamored with me. Unknowingly, I de-pruded her (gave her her first kiss) and taught her how to properly kiss a man (she used to do some kind of wierd thing with her teeth). She also gave head for the first time to my d1ck(she's obviously not that good, hahaha). Keep in mind she is doing all this while thinking I am some kind of super-player... Who knows, I probably am at this point in my life :cool:

It's pretty ironic that I'm trying to teach this chick how to probably give me head considering the fact that the only other time I got head was from some random club skank while vacationing in the Dominican Republic. Although very pretty, this chick has never actually been with a guy in the entire eighteen years of her existence (the reason she gave me was that there were only losers and creepers in the town that she grew up in). She views me as some sort of Adonis with whom she wishes to expand her long repressed sexual urges...

By today, she made it perfectly clear that she wanted me to take her virginity today. (Completely unaware that I am a virgin myself... lmao) At first, it wasn't all that hard to figure out... I fingered her for several minutes - that sh1t made her moan like crazy. Her wish was to get fvcked by my c0ck. And this is where the hard part comes in... For some strange reason, I found it extremely difficult to maintain a hard-on with her. Although she is an extremely attractive girl (HB8), it seemed that the attraction I had for her wasn't that great at all... It took me an extremely long time to get hard enough to enter her pvssy... Once I finally did, I lost the hardness within a few minutes thereafter. And no matter what I did, whether going down on her or fingering her cl1t for an extensive period of time, the b1tch just wouldn't fvckin come!!! WTF?!?! After thrusting her for a sort amount of time, I achieved a mediocre orgasm (nothing as earth-shattering as I would have expected)... Although she didn't come, she was satisfied simply with the fact of having some kind of intercourse with me. Once the deed was done, she was completely fine. Little did she even imagine all of the bullsh1t I had to go through in order to get hard with her....

This is why I am calling out to you brothers. This experience has left me quite confused. Although I have officially lost my virginity at the age of 18 (which is relatively early compared to many of the other recovering AFCs in this community), my first experience with sex was not as pleasant as I thought... What would be the possible causes of this? Is it simple first-time performance anxiety? Or am I just not that attracted to her even though she is good-looking? Is this a case of bad sex as a result of unrequited love? I would greatly appreciate the more experienced of you guys giving me some expert advice on this pressing matter.


But overall, I am rather happy in terms of the greater picture:
OTB is a virgin no more!

Let's fvcking celebrate brothers! :yes:
 

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Sex is rarely good the first time.
I was 21, and didn't come at all. It was awkward too. You don't know what you're doing and thats perfectly fine. Performance anxiety is a good word, and you're not horrible for it, just new to the game.
Wann get better...? Get more practice.
 

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Don't worry, the first time wasn't great for me either. Well actually, I was happier than a pig in 5hit. I had to try a couple of times to get it up. Once I was in her, I blew in under two minutes. After you do it a few times, you can maintain a hard-on quite easily.

Just don't let it stress you out or the woman will lose interest. You have to be confident even when your d1ck isn't working the way you want it to.
 

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Ridingthelightning said:
Sex is rarely good the first time.
I was 21, and didn't come at all. It was awkward too. You don't know what you're doing and thats perfectly fine. Performance anxiety is a good word, and you're not horrible for it, just new to the game.
Wann get better...? Get more practice.
Thanks bro, that's really reassuring advice! :yes:

If you don't mind me asking, about how many fvcks did it take for you to start being comfortable and begin to enjoy sex?
 

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Desdinova said:
Just don't let it stress you out or the woman will lose interest. You have to be confident even when your d1ck isn't working the way you want it to.
Don't worry Desdinova, I got that part down pat :yes:

Ironically enough, she thought I had a really good time taking her virginity... :crackup:
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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The first time for me was in the back of a car... I couldn't even fit it inside. The second time though I used spit for lube, and everything fell into place after that. I guess all that porno watching and masturbation helped me, I can last as long as I want to and I know distinctly when I'm about to or close to orgasm, or maybe I'm just a lucky sumabich.
 

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Welcome to the club fella. Just to weigh in, my first few times were a complete shambles too. I had problems getting hard. Also, I've never known a woman to come during her first sexual experience. Girls don't really masturbate like men, especially at that age, and she's probably never had an orgasm in her life. Some girls just don't know how to come, and normally blame themselves. I can make some girls come in 2 minutes, others can take 30 mins whilst others just can't come at all. Still, they value the 'emotional bond' that you create while having sex, so don't be too worried by it. If you can make her come though, she'll want you for life. ;)
 

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My first time was an embarassing mess. I couldn't keep it up and to top things off I pretended it was no big deal and tried to do it anyway. She actually stopped me and was like "uh, i gotta get up early tomorrow". Now I can laugh about it but back then I was worried I had a disease or something.
 

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Well done, OTB. You're no longer a virgin. Party time! No, seriously now, what was the point in starting a thread to announce this? Just ask the questions without tooting your own horn (even though you shouldn't be tooting it, in my opinion).

Good for you that you "de-pruded" her. Good for you that she "also gave head for the first time to [your] d1ck". Good for you that "her wish was to get fvcked by [your] c*ck". Good for you that you're now a big-time stud and can now rip on so-believed "insecure males", because hey, you're a man that you've banged a babe! (Mind you, I'm a bit sceptical as to how hot this chick actually is. Where I'm from, I don't know of any hot chicks that remain virgins till the age of 18 -- not even the hot ones who supposedly hold puritanical views toward sex [i.e., full-on christians] are virgins at 18!)

But why do you wear the label "player" gladly? And why do call this girl a "b1tch"? Are you genuinely mysogynistic? Or do you just think labelling others that way is cool? It always irks me when I read or, more so, hear guys referring to girls they don't even know as "b*tches", sl*ts, wh*res, etc. -- it's unwarranted.

Keep in mind she is doing all this while thinking I am some kind of super-player... Who knows, I probably am at this point in my life
What the f*ck?! You're joking, right?
 

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The last time I was having trouble getting hard (I needed a break from sex) with my GF I changed tactics. Instead of just trying to put it inside her I started tickling her and she tried to stop it but I kept it up and was playfully joking around with her. For some reason that done the trick.


And always remain confident and in control. If I'm not getting hard I don't make any fuss about it because the truth is it doesn't bother me too much. It means I need a break. :D
 
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OTB said:
Hello again my fellow Don Juans... I know many of you guys are glad to hear from me again - Especially, since I haven't been writing any significant posts about what has been going on in my life recently. But to tell you guys the truth, my life has never been better!

As most of you know, I am probably one of the youngest Don Juans on this site. I have been on this site close to two years now (since I was a 16-year-old kid in High School), but now I am an 18-year-old College kid who only started his first term several weeks ago...

Keep your eyes out for an official "OTB's College Adventure Thread" :yes:

So here is why I am posting this to you guys today. Compared to the pitiful existence I lived at the beginning of my high school days, I am a completely different man in College. As soon as I onto my campus, the ultra-confident manner in which I carried myself caused all onlookers to immediately label me as a "Player." To be completely honest with myself, this is a label that I wear proudly. :up:

So as not to confuse you with all of the numerous beautiful women that I have managed to charm over the last several weeks (there will be a whole seperate thread devoted to that), I will turn our attention to the topic at hand.

There has been this fine (HB8) girl that has been feeling me for quite sometime... She and I both live in the same dorm and on the same floor. And before some of you guys go ahead and berate me for messing with a on the same floor as me, I will have to ask you guys one question... What is the worst thing that can possibly happen? Sure this b1tch might get angry and cause thsome melodrama... My answer to this "worst-case" scenario is So Fvcking What?! Our ability to create drama, feel anger and experience the whole wide-ranging plethora of emotions is what makes us human. This is what seperates us from the poor, soul-less individuals who waste their life away sitting in front of a computer all day in order to gain money by doing a boring, monotonous job that stands for absolutely nothing in the long run. This is why unlike many insecure males (I cannot call them "men" in full confidence) out there, I always say ------> Bring on the drama!

Now back to the b1tch... I have been messing with this girl's mind since I first laid eyes on her. (And no, this does not mean that I have been emotionally abusing her in any way whatsoever. This just means I have been implementing the same exact kind of mindfvcking tactics that women use on men all of the time. Only in this rare circumstance, I was able to flip the script in order to use it towards the advantage of the male ;-) When first meeting her, I smoothly introduced myself and established a notion that I was one of the most dominant males she had ever met in her entire life. Within no time, she believed me to be some sort of "God's gift to women" and became enamored with me. Unknowingly, I de-pruded her (gave her her first kiss) and taught her how to properly kiss a man (she used to do some kind of wierd thing with her teeth). She also gave head for the first time to my d1ck(she's obviously not that good, hahaha). Keep in mind she is doing all this while thinking I am some kind of super-player... Who knows, I probably am at this point in my life :cool:

It's pretty ironic that I'm trying to teach this chick how to probably give me head considering the fact that the only other time I got head was from some random club skank while vacationing in the Dominican Republic. Although very pretty, this chick has never actually been with a guy in the entire eighteen years of her existence (the reason she gave me was that there were only losers and creepers in the town that she grew up in). She views me as some sort of Adonis with whom she wishes to expand her long repressed sexual urges...

By today, she made it perfectly clear that she wanted me to take her virginity today. (Completely unaware that I am a virgin myself... lmao) At first, it wasn't all that hard to figure out... I fingered her for several minutes - that sh1t made her moan like crazy. Her wish was to get fvcked by my c0ck. And this is where the hard part comes in... For some strange reason, I found it extremely difficult to maintain a hard-on with her. Although she is an extremely attractive girl (HB8), it seemed that the attraction I had for her wasn't that great at all... It took me an extremely long time to get hard enough to enter her pvssy... Once I finally did, I lost the hardness within a few minutes thereafter. And no matter what I did, whether going down on her or fingering her cl1t for an extensive period of time, the b1tch just wouldn't fvckin come!!! WTF?!?! After thrusting her for a sort amount of time, I achieved a mediocre orgasm (nothing as earth-shattering as I would have expected)... Although she didn't come, she was satisfied simply with the fact of having some kind of intercourse with me. Once the deed was done, she was completely fine. Little did she even imagine all of the bullsh1t I had to go through in order to get hard with her....

This is why I am calling out to you brothers. This experience has left me quite confused. Although I have officially lost my virginity at the age of 18 (which is relatively early compared to many of the other recovering AFCs in this community), my first experience with sex was not as pleasant as I thought... What would be the possible causes of this? Is it simple first-time performance anxiety? Or am I just not that attracted to her even though she is good-looking? Is this a case of bad sex as a result of unrequited love? I would greatly appreciate the more experienced of you guys giving me some expert advice on this pressing matter.


But overall, I am rather happy in terms of the greater picture:
OTB is a virgin no more!

Let's fvcking celebrate brothers! :yes:
Haha Good job my man. You know. Actually if that is the persona you want to project then keep it coming.

I personally have had quite a few girls (around 40 hooked up with and well into double digits on lays) lost my virginity in 7th grade and really began my sophomore year being a "player" but I really became a certified player my senior year and have exploded since then mackin' hard unless it's a square relationship you know?

I have 2 good friends that are just like me. Banging whoever we could trick fastest, it's something to strive for. We even make fun of each other depending on the circumstances and have found we've banged many of the same girls. (rather small town mind you :up: ) And you're not doing it right if you don't run into straight up rejections. :up:

It's about improving. It's about expanding your capabilities within the female psyche you know? It's also 'bout the 3 M's Money Mackin' and Murder.. haha you can imagine My rep 'round these parts Partna... You Know? Chuch.

Jorge Gonzalez
 

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First of all...I'm asking God to forgive me, and you OTB to forgive me...

My failure as a Christian, a Believer in Christ has a produced moral failure, fornication and adultery in your life and in the lives of many people. I have allowed man to be possesed by the media, and the lusts of the flesh to committ open rebellion against the true living God and his precepts.

I pray that God will forgive you and show you the true way, and everyone in this siutation.
 

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BigWillyStyle - OTB can toot his own horn if he wants. I'm sure you told at least one person about the first time you got booty, so don't hate.

I always enjoyed sex lol
With that girl I usually came rather quick except that first time. It was good because I think she was allergic to latex or the spermicidal lube and would have to stop.
I started to last longer near the end of the relationship, but never had a problem keeping it up with her.

After that relationship I soon got in another one and something weird happened. I guess I was still thinking about the old flame even though the new girl was hotter. It was weird because I couldn't get off, especially from bjs. It took at least half a dozen times with that 2nd girl before I came at all. She really started to worry lol

But somewhere in the last 3 years I've learned to relax and always pursue my ultimate goal... Get the girl off first. Actually... get her off multiple times to the point she can't take it anymore. This comes naturally sometimes because I'm a single man and will pound it till I'm scared my d!ck is gonna fall off because I never know when I'll be getting booty again. With most women after the 1st one the 2nd one comes quicker, as does the third one, and so on. But the thing I absolutely love is getting a girl off to where she can't stand it anymore and pushes me off of her.
Now after 13 girls I last a long time every time, but thats mostly because I'm worried about them getting off. Girls usually say something to the effect of "Are you done yet?!". And thats usually after they've come at least 2 or 3 times and are ready for sleep or just can't take it anymore.
If you want to be a true Don Juan... learn to be good in bed. Don't be out for yours and yours alone because it'll pay off in the future with *drumroll* more booty

Keep on truckin' brother.
 

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Congrats man, I'm happy for you.


EA Gold said:
First of all...I'm asking God to forgive me, and you OTB to forgive me...

My failure as a Christian, a Believer in Christ has a produced moral failure, fornication and adultery in your life and in the lives of many people. I have allowed man to be possesed by the media, and the lusts of the flesh to committ open rebellion against the true living God and his precepts.

I pray that God will forgive you and show you the true way, and everyone in this siutation.
I promise you, that at the end of your life, you will look back and regret all the things you could had, but didn't do. All because of some ancient book that's been misleading people for centuries and has proven to be full of bullsh*t many times by science.

Learn to think for yourself. Don't believe in superficial things just because a lot of other people do too.


I'm trying to help you here, man.
 

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Good job man, Sound just like me when i was Your age.

I once was told by a good friend that it takes Five years to become a Great mechanic, Guitar player, ect. So dont excpect yourself to allways be perfect. But thrive for it.

I just hit my five year mark started when i was 16 and began practicing like it was My daily ritual. Keep it up youll only get better.
 

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yea I know I was happy I lost mine. it really didnt feel good or wasnt with with a special girl or even a hot girl. it was more or less, ok she is acceptable I guess and you go and do it and then you tell all your dudes. the thing about sex is the confidence. watch pornos, do sit-up (about 12-15 and make sure you get a good contraction even if it takes 5 seconds) and then work on your hip flexors too. practice makes perfect especially if your doing a lot and with an attractive girl.
 
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EA Gold said:
First of all...I'm asking God to forgive me, and you OTB to forgive me...

My failure as a Christian, a Believer in Christ has a produced moral failure, fornication and adultery in your life and in the lives of many people. I have allowed man to be possesed by the media, and the lusts of the flesh to committ open rebellion against the true living God and his precepts.

I pray that God will forgive you and show you the true way, and everyone in this siutation.
hahahahaha :up: This isn't for you my friend.
 

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I'm proud of you, OTB. What does OTB stand for? Over-the-b!tch?

Anyhow, I'm considering marrying a Virgin and taking her virginity on our honeymoon. I wonder if she would go anal?
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

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