Just let go!

[Phat]

I've been visiting this forum for almost 4 years now and I'd just like to say thanks to the owner and creator of this place. Also I'd like to say thanks to all the guys on this forums who wrote the best damn threads. And if it wasn't for this site I would of never gotten laid, I would of never became the man I am today. So I'd like to contribute and share the advice that hopefully will have a great effect on those who are searching for the answer to all your problems with girls.

I am going to keep this short as possible.

In order to succeed with girls. You must accept your self for who you are.

Just let go!

You might say, " well I'm ugly" or " I'm not tall enough" or " I'm to fat" or " I don't have a big ****" or any insecurity you have. You have to let go. Because your insecurities are holding you back.

And getting rid of your insecurities are impossible to get rid of if you can't go back in the past and remember that time in your life when you started to think negative about your self. Most times your insecurities start when your verry young, usually from a bad experience you've had or somebody told you that you were ugly and you believed them.

The truth is; there is only one of you in this whole entire universe! And there will never be another one of you ever again!

Everybody is different! Everybody is different!! Even identical twins aren't exactly the same! Every girl has a different shaped butt! Every person is differen't!!!!

So stop trying to be like all these celebrities!!! Stop trying to look like this guy or that guy!!! Because its physically impossible to be that guy or anybody else!!! Look up to your own self goddamit!!! Stop letting people judge you!!! You can't judge anybody!!! Its impossible to judge people when everybody is different!!! Only god can judge somebody!!!

The media has messed with your mind your whole life! They tried making you be somebody you will never be nor possible to even be that person!!

Don't let anybody tell you your ugly,fat,too short,too small,too tall,too fat,dumb,stupid. Nobody has the right to judge you.

Every one of you are the goddamn shhyt.

Go out there and get what you want from life. Life is like a bank account you only get out of life what you put into life!

I'm going to end this with a few last words.

Barrack obama was rejected by michelle 13 times before she finally agreed to go out with him. And I bet michelle obama is glad she said yes!

It takes more then 1 try to succeed. The majority of people quit after 1 rejection. Every successful person in this world have delt with rejection! The more rejections you get the more success you'll have! Goddamit go out there and get rejected lol! Lol seriously guys there's 3 billion girls out there if one girl says no then there's still 2,999,999,999 girls out there lol.

Good luck every body. =)

 

[J. Darko]

I understand your point about limiting yourself with negative thoughts, but let's be honest here. You have to live up to certain standards in order to be succesful. If you don't have what it takes, what good is it to go out there and get rejected?

I haven't been approaching for a long time now. Do you think it's my negative thoughts that are holding me back? Think again. I feel like a god, but I don't have friends and lonely guys who approach don't get girls. That's a fact.

You got to have social proof. A while ago I was going to a club and girls wouldn't give me the time of day. A few weeks later I went with a girl to a club, because this girl wanted to help me out and knew the game. You know what? Girls stared at me all the time. They were begging me to approach them, just because I was with a girl. Now I'm alone again and women don't give me a second look. So I don't give them a second look either till I have some friends again and double my chances.

This is just an example of the expectations you have to live up too in order to be succesful. You have to have concrete value. Not just a mindset, but looks, clothes, social proof, a good job and a nice house. No concrete value? Then think of yourself as great all you want, but you don't stand a chance.

In other words: the dream and promise of Sosuave that anything is possible, is false, fake, flawed, an illusion. Please stop selling this to people. You give new members a false sense of confidence with these motivational speeches, which drives them into approaching women, only to get rejected again and read more of this cheesy stuff behind there computer because they think their mindset isn't good enough.

Stop the f*cking fairytales about game and mindset and help people achieve what it takes. Stop deluding people, please.

 

[PappyS]

Women have "concrete value". Men don't. If you look around you'll see all kinds of men getting laid. Rich men. Poor men. Young men. Old men. Good looking men. Ugly men. Skinny men. Fat men. And vice versa- all kinds of men not getting laid as well. There's no such thing as concrete value for men. Women want "alpha males" but nobody, including them, knows what an alpha male is. This is because "alpha male" is bullsh--. Men who are good at perpetrating this bullsh-- on women get the most p-ssy. That is what all these PUA programs are supposed to teach.

You got to have social proof. A while ago I was going to a club and girls wouldn't give me the time of day. A few weeks later I went with a girl to a club, because this girl wanted to help me out and knew the game. You know what? Girls stared at me all the time. They were begging me to approach them, just because I was with a girl. Now I'm alone again and women don't give me a second look. So I don't give them a second look either till I have some friends again and double my chances.

Proves my point. You went to a club and had no luck. Then you brought a girl with you and all of a sudden girls were all over you. Nothing changed about you. You didn't all of a sudden get a high paying job. You didn't get a nice house. You didn't get better looking.

 

[zekko]

Barrack obama was rejected by michelle 13 times before she finally agreed to go out with him. And I bet michelle obama is glad she said yes!

Really? Hasn't he ever heard of the two strikes rule or the three strikes rule? What the heck is wrong with him?
This also reminds me of the threads where the black guys complain that black women only want thugs. Maybe he should have worn baggier pants.

In other words: the dream and promise of Sosuave that anything is possible, is false, fake, flawed, an illusion. Please stop selling this to people.

I disagree. Part of the philosophy of Sosuave is to improve yourself as a man, in all areas of your life. So if that is your main focus you should get there eventually.
Aside from that, I used to have a friend who was on welfare, with little ambition to get off of it. He could pull women. Not very high class women, but women nonetheless. If he could do it, I don't see why anyone else couldn't.

Women have "concrete value".

I've heard of this, but in a slightly different way. A good looking woman's value will not change, while a man's value changes depending on the situation and circumstances he finds himself in. Like if he's the boss one day he may be pimping but then if he loses his job his value plummets.

Proves my point. You went to a club and had no luck. Then you brought a girl with you and all of a sudden girls were all over you. Nothing changed about you. You didn't all of a sudden get a high paying job. You didn't get a nice house. You didn't get better looking.

Interesting. It's almost like the girl had the "concrete value" as you said, and the guy sort of absorbed it while she was around. He was reflecting her value in a way.

I feel like a god, but I don't have friends and lonely guys who approach don't get girls. That's a fact.

Not with that attitude. You're defeated before you begin. Anyway, you should work at getting some friends if that's what you want. Or you could put on an attitude that you don't care what other people think. I'm an older guy and I no longer want to hang around with a bunch of people all the time. But I know I can get women. I have my own agenda that I follow, and that doesn't include entertaining a bunch of acquaintances just so I can show social proof. You have to be able to talk to people though. Maybe you should try approaching outside of a club atmosphere if that's what you're doing. Try some day game - it's probably harder but more rewarding.

 

[Phat]

All this talk about needing social proof just sounds like an excuse. And it sounds like you guys are having trouble of just letting go.

If you stopped giving a care what everyone thought you would have social proof! You know why? Because you would have so many god damn friends to give you social proof from being social and not giving a care about shed!

So let's say a guy did have social proof and he did go to the club...but he still didn't have the courage to talk to girls or let him self go! What good is social proof then?

A good friend of mine for example kevin from new york city. Used to go out every day in the city and just talk to people, run game on girls, go to clubs alone and make out with 10 girls!! And this guy was just a skinny jew boy!! Now he's a successful real estate broker with an office on wall st! You know why? Because he just let go of what anybody thought. And caring about social proof is caring about what people think.

Just let go. Its tough letting go and just manning up.

The ones who don't give a shut are the ones who everybody else gives a shyt about. Then you wonder why every white boy dies their hair yellow to be like eminem. Or every girl wanna look like paris hilton.

If you want to look good then go get some new cloths goddamit. No I'm not saying go to express clothing and expensive stores and such. Take your ass to walmart and put together a nice outfit. Some jeans and a nice shirt. Spend a little money get some dress shoes from walmart or payless. Get a hair cut, shave your balls etc. Atleast look presentable.

Its all common sense. Stop making this look harder than it looks.

Do you think a lion worries about having social proof? Um,no? A lion gets his pride of females from having the courage to fight! The lion doesn't even know what social proof is. But he knows in order to get some booty he can't act like a ***** ass kitten with no testicles.

Take a look in the mirror. Look at them sharp fangs you got. You got fangs because your naturally a killer. But on the other hand your acting like a little flower girl afraid of this and afraid of that. You might as well cut your testicles off and get the sex change done. Go ahead deny your testicles.

And don't tell me about standards. The natural law of real standards says: if you got a penis and balls then your a man. So quit your excuses and act like a man.

Once upon a time a loving couple were expecting a baby. The doctor showed the couple the ultra sound and clearly the baby had a penis, the doctor said " its a boy ". The couple was very happy. The boy was born. The couple sat him in front of the tv and fed him the bull crap of barney and tellytubbies. His fragile learning brain now has learned how to "care" " share your toys" "please and thank you are the magic words!" So now you got this boy who has the mentality of a little homo. And then he reaches his teens and all his friends are a product of mtv and michael jordan worshipping coksuckers. And eminem hair dying homosexuals. And chick flick homosexual movies. Now you got this young man a product of barney, tellytubbie tinky winky, feminem, jesus saves this and jesus saves that little dandy lion coward. And you got these parents and schools teaching their kids "safe sex is no sex" and etc etc etc. Then you finally become a young man/adult and you completely forgot you had a set of balls and a penis. This whole time the media has fooled you into acting like a girl. And now your on this forum. Oh well I guess some of you will never learn.

The truth has always been right in front of you this whole time. And I bet the majority of you can't even figure out what truth I'm talking about. Because your whitey tighty underwear has hid your truth for years. And it's just now that your finally starting to "get it". And maybe someday your parents might be proud to say " its a boy" again.

 

[zekko]

Spend a little money get some dress shoes from walmart or payless. Get a hair cut, shave your balls etc

Remember you have shaved your balls and carry yourself accordingly. Women have a sixth sense about this sort of thing, and will know instinctively that you have shaved your balls.

 

[J. Darko]

Remember you have shaved your balls and carry yourself accordingly. Women have a sixth sense about this sort of thing, and will know instinctively that you have shaved your balls.

This made me laugh. :crackup:

Yes, I have it a lot easier day time, but women get pre emptive on me with talking about their boyfriend and that's a rejection right there. I do believe in improving yourself as a man and be happy with yourself, but the point I'm making is that having the right mindset isn't enough.

And absorbing her value sounds like hocus pocus, wouldn't you agree?

Pappy
Of course something changed. I got social proof for one, but I don't rule out the possibility that my behaviour changed as well. However, I've been working on myself anyway, so I think I already achieved that behaviour, still no other girls looking though.
I don't follow you on the first point either. The way you say it, it sounds like a man should educate women about alpha behaviour and take himself as an example. I mean, come on, you don't approach a girl saying: Hi, my name is Cartman and I'm going to show you how alpha I am?

And your talk about having balls is appealing, but nature also dictates that the weak die. Small, men, men who are banned from society, the lonely, they just die. They are outcompeted by the strong, not strong in mind, but strong in body. So there are limits.

 

[zekko]

Yes, I have it a lot easier day time, but women get pre emptive on me with talking about their boyfriend and that's a rejection right there. I do believe in improving yourself as a man and be happy with yourself, but the point I'm making is that having the right mindset isn't enough.

As DJs, we're supposed to be happy about collecting rejections because that toughens us, helps us kill off approach anxiety, and makes us rely on ourselves for confidence and not on the validation of other people (women).

Having the right mindset will help you improve yourself and be happy with yourself. Having the wrong mindset will not help you, it will only hold you back, believe me I know. You will get so much further with the right mindset. You have to make a choice to have the right mindset, make it a habit. This can be hard at first, but the more you practice it, the easier it becomes.

Anyway, I've known guys I swear to you had absolutely nothing going for them, but were conceited. And because they thought so highly of themselves, because they believed in themselves, they succeeded.

And your talk about having balls is appealing, but nature also dictates that the weak die. Small, men, men who are banned from society, the lonely, they just die. They are outcompeted by the strong, not strong in mind, but strong in body.

All the more reason to put your effort into making sure you're one of the strong. I don't know if you're talking about yourself there, but if you're physically weak, get into the gym, or get some weights at least. The most important muscle is your mind. Use the right mindset to achieve what you want.

 

[Phat]

J dark.

What would an alpha male do. What would a confident male do.

You may ask your self these questions.

But first in order to know what alpha male will do in a situation, you must let go of what somebody else thinks. Accept your self for who you are and realize you can only improve your self (thankfully). Once you completely don't give a shyt about rejection is only when your alpha male behaviors come out. You will start to love your self. You will stop taking **** from people. Taking **** from girls is like them offering them a piece of their poop and then telling you to eat it. Now how would you feel if a girl did that? Violated, and disrespected right? Of course.

I was writing in my notebook last night about what if a girl says she has a boyfriend and how you should handle the situation. I thought about bringing a caveman to the modern world and dressing him up in some decent cloths from walmart and giving him a hair cut. And making him shave. So he fits in with modern man. So let's say I got bambam the cavemen in the front seat of my car and bambam is pointing at all the girls and people making funny faces and yelling caveman obsenities to walking people in the city. And I put the window up because bambam is trying to crawl out the window like my dog. So I park the car and me and bambam go hunting for chicks. So now you got two modern looking guys on the street and of course bambam is grabbing food from peoples plates at sidewalk restaurant eating areas bambam is happy because its the first meal he didn't have to kill! And the victoms of bambam are in their sterotypical " oh my god, how dare you act like a man" attitudes. Bambam just smiles with his mouth full of caviar and chewed up steak and everybody is thinking " doesn't he care! " Of course bambam don't care. He's a man he takes what he wants to make him happy. He looks at the victoms like " haha suckerr". So on the way to the club bambam and I spot this sexy girl and she has a boyfriend with her her boyfriend leaves her because he forgot his wallet in the car. Bambam see's her and approaches her with only one thing on his mind! So I stand back and listen in on the conversation. The girl says " I have a boyfriend" Bambam * confused caveman face * bambam still proceeds to take her hand and lead her to the ally. She says " I have a boyfriend!" Bambam looks at her with confused caveman face. She trys to pull away but bam don't let that happen. The girl is confused because bambams the first guy to act like he didn't care. Bambam spots a set of 3 girls and leaves the girlwith a boyfriend for the 3 girls. Bambam is heaven. He never seen such an abundant of women before. Bambam approaches the 3 set by sniffing the girls and leading the girls back to the ally. The girls are wondering wow this guy doesn't give a flying fuk! They actually get turned on because bambam is showing them fun. Bambam spots another set and leaves the 3set. The set of 3 girls say " what an ******* " but the 3 set get jealous and go head inside the club. Bambam spots another set and leaves the set in awe and feeling rejected. Bambam don't care there's so much women he has to approach them all. Little did bambam know he was setting his self up for big success. So by the time a girl could even say " so what's your name?" Bambam had already left to approach another girl. Bambam left the club that night a fuking rockstar. All the chodes were giving bambam high fives as he left and bambams hands were occupied with girls so it wasn't possible to touch bambam because he was too busy. Bambam went home with 3 girls that night and I never saw the man again. I got laid though just for being seen with bambam. But bambam didn't even say goodbye. Bambam had his own way of saying goodbye by saying "see ya wouldn't wanna be ya sucker!!!" Years later bambam was scouted by the giecko insurance company. And he made it in this world for being himself. For being a man. For not caring what people thought. For not being a sucker. And till this day. I still see bambam arriving at the club with a limo full of girls from ages 18 - 60. I still see bambam next store screwing my neighbors wife with the baby crying in the backround. When bambam leaves her house he always says " see ya wouldn't wanna be ya suckerrr!!!"

 

[PappyS]

I don't follow you on the first point either. The way you say it, it sounds like a man should educate women about alpha behaviour and take himself as an example. I mean, come on, you don't approach a girl saying: Hi, my name is Cartman and I'm going to show you how alpha I am?

You're supposed to tell them without telling them. This is what all the PUA-DJ stuff is about. There is a reason for the popularity of these things just like there is a reason why women are interested in clothes and makeup.

 

[J. Darko]

As DJs, we're supposed to be happy about collecting rejections because that toughens us, helps us kill off approach anxiety, and makes us rely on ourselves for confidence and not on the validation of other people (women).

Having the right mindset will help you improve yourself and be happy with yourself. Having the wrong mindset will not help you, it will only hold you back, believe me I know. You will get so much further with the right mindset. You have to make a choice to have the right mindset, make it a habit. This can be hard at first, but the more you practice it, the easier it becomes.

Anyway, I've known guys I swear to you had absolutely nothing going for them, but were conceited. And because they thought so highly of themselves, because they believed in themselves, they succeeded.


All the more reason to put your effort into making sure you're one of the strong. I don't know if you're talking about yourself there, but if you're physically weak, get into the gym, or get some weights at least. The most important muscle is your mind. Use the right mindset to achieve what you want.

Yeah, I did got a lot stronger, but unfortunately, I kept plateauing for like, half a year. I should be a lot stronger by now than I am and to make matters worse, at 100 Kg I still have a small frame and people don't see that I've been working out.

But yeah, I've been trying to take what I deserve, but them I'm kind of an ******* and don't get respect. I'm not geting respect when I'm nice either. It's those little things as well. Like walking through town and bumping into people because they don't get out of their way, or almost a fight with a girl, because I was sitting in the bus awith my feet on the chair, there were some seats free and I told here to just sit somewhere else, but she didn't like that. Or saying stuff people don't like, etcetera. It's just hard to be yourself and use your claws when these things backfire at you. Anyway, I'm caring less and less about the backfiring part as well, just losing my interest in other people, I'd rather be alone for now.

People who are nice to me throw me off guard though, because before I know, I turn into mister nice guy as well. So, in short, it still doesn't feel as easy as just the mindset. Or maybe it is and I'm making things to complicated.


Phat
I like your story But, there is also the ignorant creep who approaches all the time and thinks of himself as a great guy, while in reality everyone thinks he's just a weirdo. How do you distinguish this ignorant creep from the not caring caveman? How would you know wether you're a caveman or ignorant?

 

[Phat]

J dark.

A caveman does not know what an ignorant creep is. An ignorant creep was made up by some girl most likely. You gotta remember a caveman most likely is on his own in the world. When you know your alone in the world that means there's only one of you. your value just for being the only one of you should be very high. When you see your self as high value for being you then everybody else will treat you like high value.

Also...a caveman does not know all these stupid terms for men that femenistic women give guys. A cave man only knows that he's suppose to get booty! Anything other than knowing your suppose to get booty is just an obstacle a girl may put in your way because she knows you care about her thoughts.

The person who cares about other peoples thoughts looses, the person who doesn't care about other peoples thoughts wins.

In this world we got 6 billion people with their own likes and dislikes. How did bambam get those girls to like him? Bambam just showed them fun and led them. And those girls creep gaurds eventually dropped and they ended up liking him. There's a natural law called the law of submission. It says the weaker person always submits to the stronger person.

I remember I spent the day hanging out with friends and this girl I liked had a boyfriend. But I didn't care I just wanted to go out with her! So I asked her out and she said "no I have a boyfriend". I ignored it and asked her out again. She said "no I have a boyfriend" I ignored her and just left her alone for a little while. I went back over to her and asked her out again, she said " why do you keep asking me?" I said " because your sexy...so will you go out with me?" She just smiled and said " I have a boyfriend haha I can't go out with you if I have a boyfriend" I said " how about you just give me a *******" she said" no I already gave head once last week and I can't do it this week and plus I have to go home in 10 minutes"

*This is the part that shocked me.*

She took my hand and led me over to the fence. She pushed me up against the fence!!! And started to make out with me!!! Then we stopped kissing and she said " I would give you head but I gotta go " she kissed me again and walked home.

Moral of story:
She submitted
=p

 

[zekko]

Years later bambam was scouted by the giecko insurance company. And he made it in this world for being himself.

First off, in real life instead of picking up chicks your Bambam would be cowering in a corner somewhere in mortal fear of the cars and the bright lights.

Secondly, as much as I like the Geico cavemen, they are as AFC as it gets.