"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Just left the club, strange experience feel like a reptile

Who Dares Win

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Just came back from the club, want to write it now to make sure I dont lose anything in the night.

So arrived as usual, this time alone as many times but not always, not particularly rich in terms of good looking girls yet but can bet your ass b1tch shields were as high as the walls of jericho....that fact somehow pissed me off but in a cold way not that kind of feeling of warm low anger.

I felt more like a guy who bets on horse races which does some cost/benefit evaluation on the situation, so just standed at the perimeter of the dance floor like many other guys and many other girls.

During the night I saw some girls I flirted with but didnt give anything or even gave me fake number, of course didnt even bother to acknowledge them.

At some point two girls came next to me, but being used of girl looking for ego boosts I simply ignored them...then the petite blonde got closer and even put her beer at half arm lenght from me while dancing, even got her looking straight in my eyes for few seconds.

But as I said I felt more like a cold reptile, I pictures myself all the work I have to put in this case from the approach to the dancing to the necessary procedures to pass sh1t tests, then her friend which needs entarteinment as well, then the fake numbers the flaking and all the rest...I mean it was pretty obvious she was somehow interested, she could at least bother to say Hi or make some random question like why Im not dancing.

I simply said to myself that I was in no mood for this unbalanced courting ceremony and kept ignoring them, at some point she moved and dont know if on purpose or not briefly touched my tight while turning away to her friend.

After about 15 minutes they left...not that I minded too much there are moments when a man for once in his life would like to have some acknowledgment as a person and not be expect to behave in the standard way...not sure if Im explaning myself actually.

Left at about 2 after realizing I was not energic or horny enough for that, it seems that despite my libido is pretty high Im in a no bvllsh1t mode and any slightly annoying fact push me into cold ice.

Didnt felt shy or intimidated from bulky guys around me, felt like cold stone.
I know for sure its not hormones cause just today I beated deadlift record and feel virtually no reaction or fear from bigger guys around me.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Harry Wilmington

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Welcome to 28...

Once I got around that age I really started hating going to the club. Like you said, just envisioning all the work and "game" needed to impress these chicks that don't even end up being worth more than one night of fun... it gets tiring and somewhat depressing. Plus, you can look around and really analyze just how desperate everybody is - the guys are all there trying to find anyone they can to validate how good they are at getting girls, and the women are there trying to validate how good they think they still look regardless of their age.

I have more fun going to the club with people I already know and/or girls I'm already dating. On the oh-so-rare occasions when I go there solo, I can see certain girls looking at me, and even though I know I have a shot at them I just don't feel like dealing with them...
 

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That's why i only go out to get drunk or at least heavily buzzed....used to i was so horny and eager, i could go to a club sober and pull a lot of makeouts and quality numbers or sometimes a lay or 2 just from sheer will power and immunity to rejection....and i can still do that but certainly not sober anymore...

I just don't have the patience or strong desire to do so anymore...i do get drunk off my ass though and dance like a maniac...some people probably think i am crazy and others think life of the party and join me...sometimes i get laid from it, sometimes i don't...but the point is, i am there to get drunk and have fun, dancing to music first and chasing women 2nd...but i find if you are really having fun in the first place and your beer gut is not too big then you won't have too chase they will come to you....also an important rule i have learned..if you need a nother beer or drink but you are dancing with a girl, don't hesitate to leave her ass and go get your drink...if she likes you, she will still be there and her IL will usually be bumped higher...though sometimes it backfires..point is, though, don't make the girl your priority.....

The problem is most clubs play terrible techno and the new (horrible) rap music......i like 80s type music and 90s rap when it comes to dancing and drinking...Dave Matthews for slow dance/make out is good too.

My god tecno music is just awful, though...i think they invented it for people who have zero rythm so they can just jump and and down waving their hands like drunk toddlers. Hell, even some Michael Jackson will get me going much more than tecno...especially that beat it song.
 

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i see your point man. i sometimes feel like this too and i am 23, girls expect YOU to do everything and for them just to stand there wait for you to make " the wrong move" then just toss you out the window.

my problem is i never have fun in the club. i really need to start managing my state better and just pump it to ****. i'd rather no go to clubs, but i don't have a choice in the mater.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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zinc4

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If you can't have fun at a club without it being dependent on women, then there is no point in being there...you should never just go to meet women IMO...
 

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Who Dares Win, you just shouldn´t go to the clubs by yourself.. You won´t enjoy it, it´s lost time and money, and you will look and feel like a creep. Most guys who go alone to clubs are seen by everyone as loners and weird even if they aren´t, it´s almost an impossible task to get a girl who isn´t a whale...

And one thing that most guys should recognize, is that women behavior in the club is normal, this kind of defense against strangers is the standard, and what should be expected from any mentally sane women. Most girls were followed a few times by strangers and just look how many rape stories are out there, you would do the same if you were one. It has nothing to do with feeling superior (in most cases)

I´ll assume you are a 7 in looks because you got one girl interested in you, most guys on sosuave I´m pretty sure that are from 3- 6 despite their self proclaimed greek god looks, do you know how many 7´s in their cell phone any decent and outgoing girl has (most women are more social than men btw). Why would she risk her reputation, security and comfort for a strange guy who is cute? When she knows tons of them?
If most guys here insist on going to clubs by themselves, and rely on clubs cold approach, they will be in the same situation 10 years from now, whining how *****y and arrogant women are.

PS: bulky guys are not a menace at all , they just look like narcissistic retards, while some women are crazy for them, the percentage is quite low. Most women prefer athletic ones. I see every night a team of bulky guys standing at wall, never touching a girl...
 

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When you go out with the sole intention of meeting girls, prepare to be disappointed.

Cut the bullsh1t, do things because they are FUN and girls are more likely to gravitate towards you.
 

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Happy that I stumbled upon this thread, since I had a very similar experience last night.

I was out with a mixed group at a local bar in my city close to home, having a decent time and having good conversation with my friends.

I notice there are many young looking girls (and some guys) there (I would hazard around 18-early 20's), I find out they are all from a Pharm D program from the professional school I go to nearby. Getting drunk, great targets to run game on.

But I simply didn't feel like it. I was mostly content talking to my close friends and leaving early. Even when one of the girls smiled at me, I still didn't muster the energy to go over and talk to her and her group.

I guess I'm getting old. The only thing I would have wanted to do with any of these chicks is take them home to my bed, not necessarily talk to them about mundane nonsense, get their phone numbers and take them out on dates, spend money on them, all for the goal of a lay (I wouldn't actually date most of these girls long term).

I've done all of the above many times before, and it just doesn't seem like its worth it anymore. The cost-benefit analysis going on in my brain tells me its not worth my breath talking to them unless they are really interested.

Who knows, maybe I'm just getting over this whole thing about being flailing penis whose only goal is sex.
 

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It runs in cycles. Once it gets nice out I am sure I will want to go out.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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