Just learned that a friend will be divorcing his wife of 16 years

[iqqi]

Here is the quote from the article that I DIDNT WRITE.

But since you keep wanting to harp on about women's roles in divorce, this quote from a Discovery Channel article about that subject should really get you worked up, I have highlighted my favorite part. Those of you who subscribe to the Myth of the Quality Woman hype take note:

Two-thirds of all divorces are initiated by women. One recent study found that many of the reasons for this have to do with the nature of our divorce laws. For example, in most states women have a good chance of receiving custody of their children. Because women more strongly want to keep their children with them, in states where there is a presumption of shared custody with the husband the percentage of women who initiate divorces is much lower. Also, the higher rate of women initiators is probably due to the fact that men are more likely to be "badly behaved." Husbands, for example, are more likely than wives to have problems with drinking, drug abuse, and infidelity.

 

[bigjohnson]

This is a crap normative statement. Opinion only. Now the numbers in regards to custody, now that's a clear statement that women just don't have anything to lose and everything to gain when initiating divorce.

My thoughts precisely. Here's the paraphrase version:

"We found a clear correlation that we didn't like the sound of so we're gonna throw out some politically correct bullshyt we just made up to justify bad behavior from women."

 

[STR8UP]

I didn't mean it to be so simple like that. I have never seen a woman marry a man because he could protect her, or even provide for her.

This is kindergarten level information. It isn't even up for debate.

A few decades of feminism, the industrial and information age, all the attempts at transcending your animalistic nature are FUTILE.

Most people who I witness marriages between, choose each other based on similar life goals, dreams, and experiences shared together.

And then they are both running off with the secretary or the pool boy chasing their "biological imperative" as Rollo T would so eloquently put it.

Get your head out of the sand.

 

[STR8UP]

Each list of values are diffrent for every person. Beauty, and the ability to have his babies ranks highest on Str8up's list.

Thats at the top of pretty much every man list who has ever walked this earth. If he says otherwise he is either lying or in denial because he feel he can't GET what he deems to be attractive.

The two best relationships I ever had were with women whom I was captivated by their beauty. Coincidence?

They both also happened to be the "type" of woman I prefer (feminine, demure), but I have to wonder how much of my attraction level was due to the fact that every time I would look at either one of them i just wanted to start ripping clothes off and bend them over the nearest piece of furniture

I'm sorry, no offense to any women present, but women are nearly incapable of pinpointing the root of their attraction. It's covered up by deep layers of emotion.

On a womans end it goes back to the whole "Why would a woman be attracted to a man who is obviously 'no good' for her"? Because she can't rationalize attraction. It's ingrained in her DNA. Safety and security. Protection and provisioning for her and her children.

Same for a man. But with a man it's MUCH simpler. The primary requirement for a mate is and has always been beauty.

 

[bigjohnson]

But with a man it's MUCH simpler. The primary requirement for a mate is and has always been beauty.

Yes, that's what makes us bad bad bad.

 

[Interceptor]

Aliasguy wrote:

And WHAT the hell is all this stuff on several threads about how wonderful this "lovelylady" is? Damn, it's like Venus herself has deigned to descend upon the SS forum. What a bunch of ass-kissing p*ssies we can be.

:crackup:

I know LL personally.
I also know I am neither an ass kisser, nor a pvssy. I could interject some sexual innuendo here anyway, but I don't need to.


But I do appreciate women, and do not hold grudges, bitterness nor resentment towards women. Which SAYS A whole FVCKING LOT compared to SOME people on this board!!!!!!!!!:crackup:

I just interject some humour in the forums. It's light hearted, she knows who I am and we understand our 'language".
It's all in good fun, man.

She's a great girl. If you knew her , you would agree.


Don't get bent out of shape on it, dude. It's all in good fun.


And no, she is not Wyldfire.

Hope this clears that up for everyone on here...

Thanks.

 

[iqqi]

The two best relationships I ever had were with women whom I was captivated by their beauty. Coincidence?

And you didn't marry them. Coincidence?

And you are no longer with them. Coincidence?

Instead you are posting on this board, about how you don't understand women, but you do, but you don't... Coincidence?

 

[joekerr31]

And you didn't marry them. Coincidence?

And you are no longer with them. Coincidence?

Instead you are posting on this board, about how you don't understand women, but you do, but you don't... Coincidence?

my penis casts a sillouette that looks like richard nixon...coincidence?

 

[KarmaSutra]

my penis casts a sillouette that looks like richard nixon...coincidence?

Mine resembles Lou Costello.

 

[bigjohnson]

... Coincidence?

You're a woman and can't seem to build a coherent argument. Coincidence?

 

[STR8UP]

And you didn't marry them. Coincidence?

And you are no longer with them. Coincidence?

Instead you are posting on this board, about how you don't understand women, but you do, but you don't... Coincidence?

No one said that looks are the end all be all. But they are the PRIMARY factor a man uses to choose a mate. FACT.

Whenever I tell my friends (male OR female) that I am seeing a new chick, they don't say, "Oh that's great, she's a nice girl!". No, they say "Wow, she's really PRETTY/HOT. Congratulations!"

I have had MORE THAN ONE chick say to me, "If you ever cheat on me, she had better be pretty".

Women KNOW their value is determined by their looks. That's why when I talk to older women, the claws come out when I mention younger chicks.

I'm not really a bettin' man, but if I were, and you really ARE a chick, iqqi, my money says you might be defending "other" virtues because you aren't exactly what most of us would consider to be a "hottie".

But I could be wrong.....

 

[Mr.Positive]

One more point. Whoever keeps bringing up the point that women initiate more divorces, seem to be conveniently blocking out the part that explains why. Such as men being more likely to gamble, cheat, drink, ect.

I think this is untrue, even if statistics show this because women are far less likely to admit to gambling, cheating, or drinking. They are just sneaker about it.

Besides, if it was true, it would only be because the men had to come home to a nagging, fat, give-me-everything princess who contributes absolutely nothing to the marriage.

H3ll Iqqi, you've probably pushed some guys here on sosuave to drink more than they usually do.. Good job.

 

[iqqi]

No one said that looks are the end all be all. But they are the PRIMARY factor a man uses to choose a mate. FACT.

Maybe... especially when it comes to DATING.

But this is about marriage. Most people do not marry someone based on looks or reproduction ability.

The fact that so many of you are arguing that people marry for such superficial reasons alone is bleak. I am glad I have so many examples of just the opposite in my own life.

You are all so hung up on looks. But then you have threads dedicated to telling all these other less than stellar looking dudes on here that it isn't about looks so much as game.

Game in other words, confidence, charisma, intelligence.

And then you say pity the fool that doesn't marry for superficial reasons! They are trading down, you say. But the truth is PITY YOU. Pity you for not being able to see that looks are just a superficial attraction. Yes, they attract. But do they HOLD long term? NO. Looks are just the opposite of what makes one worthy of marriage.

If you think otherwise, I feel sorry for you, but its your life, your morals, your mistake, IMO.

And just because I am championing deeper virtues than money, looks, and child birthing ability, does not mean I am ugly, broke, or barren. How ignorant of you to think so. And as if that is some kind of argument against what I am saying.

The reason most of you are even arguing with me is obvious, and if you really want to disagree, instead of saying "iqqi is sticking up for the fat chick, she must be fat", why don't you go ahead and take a real point I made, and blatantly disagree with it, and say why.

About the article I quoted, I didn't write it. So I am not going to sit here and argue about it. It came from the same place your statistics came from.

About what some of your c0cks look like. Sweet. That's hot.

 

[iqqi]

I think this is untrue, even if statistics show this because women are far less likely to admit to gambling, cheating, or drinking. They are just sneaker about it.

Ha. As if men are far more likely to admit it. Get riz-eal.

 

[STR8UP]

But this is about marriage. Most people do not marry someone based on looks or reproduction ability.

Where are you getting this from?

Most men most certainly DO marry based first and foremost on those criteria.

You are all so hung up on looks. But then you have threads dedicated to telling all these other less than stellar looking dudes on here that it isn't about looks so much as game.

That's because for men it ISN'T primarily about looking good.

And then you say pity the fool that doesn't marry for superficial reasons!.......Looks are just the opposite of what makes one worthy of marriage.

First off, it isn't "superficial" to marry someone you are physically attracted to, it's NATURAL.

Secondly, looks are not the opposite of what makes one worthy of marriage....they are a component of what makes one worthy.

And just because I am championing deeper virtues than money, looks, and child birthing ability, does not mean I am ugly, broke, or barren. How ignorant of you to think so. And as if that is some kind of argument against what I am saying.

Anyone who says money doesn't matter never had any. Same with value in the reproductive game. If you were attractive you wouldn't be posting this crap.

The reason most of you are even arguing with me is obvious, and if you really want to disagree, instead of saying "iqqi is sticking up for the fat chick, she must be fat", why don't you go ahead and take a real point I made, and blatantly disagree with it, and say why.

It's pretty much universally KNOWN to anyone who has studied human sexuality, which most of us here HAVE. I don't feel the need to quote sources, as pretty much everything ever written on the subject corresponds with what I stated.

 

[iqqi]

Where are you getting this from?

Experience, mostly.

Most men most certainly DO marry based first and foremost on those criteria.

That is probaly why MOST marriages fail.

That's because for men it ISN'T primarily about looking good.

BUT YOU JUST SAID....

Most men most certainly DO marry based first and foremost on those criteria.

First off, it isn't "superficial" to marry someone you are physically attracted to, it's NATURAL.

It is also known that people become more attractive over time when beheld by loving eyes...

Secondly, looks are not the opposite of what makes one worthy of marriage....they are a component of what makes one worthy.

I agree mostly that they are a component of what makes one attractive... but not valuable

Anyone who says money doesn't matter never had any. Same with value in the reproductive game. If you were attractive you wouldn't be posting this crap.

I know a lot of people with money who will tell you that money doesn't matter. They'd rather be happy.

I am attractive, according to most "damns!" when guys see me, and myths that I am "out of your league" that seem to be going around in my neck of the woods. I live in a very popular party hardy college town. And I AM posting this "crap".

Enough about me.

It's pretty much universally KNOWN to anyone who has studied human sexuality, which most of us here HAVE. I don't feel the need to quote sources, as pretty much everything ever written on the subject corresponds with what I stated.

Nobody here is studying nothin about nothin. In reality this site is a bunch of tips, technigues, and "old wives tales", with contradictory opinions on what works and what doesn't. Don't sit here and pretend this sh!t is a science, or ever will be.

 

[iqqi]

And if I misread something, and you meant that MEN don't need to look good... that is really just your experience, and I am glad you have atleast learned THAT lesson.

But the same thing applies to women who marry for money or protection solely... that sh!t won't last.

I've seen enough marriages where the man is not the protecter or the breadwinner, but he is valuable in other ways that mean more to the INDIVIDUAL he is married to.

 

[aliasguy]

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iqqi------


It SEEMS that you are saying that LOOKS and MONEY don't matter when it comes to marriage.

Why should we listen to you anymore AT ALL?

We don't CARE how attractive YOU are, we want to hit up chicks WE want.

If you don't like th "old wives' tales on here, that's ok, just keep on posting. We'll figure out what is really going on.


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[iqqi]

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It SEEMS that you are saying that LOOKS and MONEY don't matter when it comes to marriage.

Why should we listen to you anymore AT ALL?

We don't CARE how attractive YOU are, we want to hit up chicks WE want.

If you don't like th "old wives' tales on here, that's ok, just keep on posting. We'll figure out what is really going on.

Dude, I don't give a sh!t about how attractive I am either, THEY keep bringing it up like it means something.

Don't listen to me then, and don't worry about what I am saying, unless you are saying something that has to do with the point of the thread.

If it SEEMS like I am saying something, why don't you go back and read what I ACTUALLY wrote.

I said that looks and money aren't the preresiquites for marriage. do you know what that means?

 

[aliasguy]

Dude, I don't give a sh!t about how attractive I am either, THEY keep bringing it up like it means something.

Don't listen to me then, and don't worry about what I am saying, unless you are saying something that has to do with the point of the thread.

If it SEEMS like I am saying something, why don't you go back and read what I ACTUALLY wrote.

I said that looks and money aren't the preresiquites for marriage. do you know what that means?

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Sorry to elicit anger in you, iqqi. i apologize.

Perhaps you clue us guys in on what ARE the actual PREREQUISITES for marriage, sweetie. And spelling counts, this time.

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