organizedconfusion
Master Don Juan
.... my last thread was soo conviniently closed
down right before i could even reply..
NOT AN ENDING, ONLY A BEGINNING
-originally posted by Rollo-
Please permit me too respond…
{Please do NOT be fooled that all it takes is to use 'power plays' or tactics (high value/status)and thats all it takes to maintain a healthy relationship.}
Maybe not, but ask Mr. Tomassi if whether it is more important to win a battle or the war. Looking at marriages from many peers older and younger, all I hear is how the Mrs. Got over on me this that and the other. Now if they started disagreeing with wives, is this grounds for divorce? More than likely not. If you say no to your boss, will he or she fire you? It depends. If so, your azz was already on thin ice. Playing power plays allow components remind the other components the essence of their true value in their relationship.
it's a component in a relationship, but theres much more in
order to making it work...
{Not only til i realized that mentality creates resentment and alot of anger in the relationship. Is this a girl that you love and respect? or is this just 'another girl'.
This dosen't mean dropping your nutts and permanently gluing you lips to a girls a$$, what it means is that there must be compromise...sometimes ALOT of it.}
You know..this is where you start to sound like some wounded female trying wonder why her tactics caused some guy to pull her card. In effect leaving her where she stood. All because she thought she was cute. You also sound like you loose a lot of these compromising battles, because you probably give in more than she does. Can’t you see this is a revolutionary site? It challenges societies’ ideas of women should be in a age of Oprah and high rates of divorce. I never heard of a woman leaving a man for a wimp, who can’t lay pipe. Think about it. Think of how many guys lost out to older guys who had their stuff together in terms of women. If you can’t understand this then my assumption is correct. Furthermore, respect is something you have to earn, still. Hell, you’ve been in two LT relationships your whole life. Did you love any of these women? I bet you did. Maybe. Did you respect your partner with equal value? I want to hear this. Did you ever go to dinner and look over at some woman who had bigger breast and a rounder biscuit than your mate? Did you look without feeling guilty?
That was my problem in the past though..i ALWAYS had to
have the power in the relationship and seldom did i compromise or really listen to her needs entirly.It really was my way or no way and that's where it hurt things the most. I had my sh*t together and i took care of buisness, but there wasn't really a balance and i was brutish at times..and that only made things
worse.I respected her, but i still kinda looked down on her in a way...
{Understanding, emotional/mental support ,patience,being mature and being a MAN about things. }
This is a true statement. Actually, not true. Most men aren’t these things. I have too ask if these things are important, not to be funny, why have you only been in long term relationships? If you know the key, why not be married by the age of 22? I know why it’s not a choice you wanted to make. It’s about choices. And freedom to make choices without someone pressuring them into making a potential mistake.
why just two? because i decided that after the last one and
how hurt i was by it and how stubborn and set in my ways i can be, i must change things first in order to have better relationships..where most suffer from having no control, i suffered from wanting too much control over things.Being the dominate part and always insisting on things my way. Sure, it's an
alpha trait or whatever you guys wanna call it, but it's only
gotten me nothing but trouble in the past.Not controling as
possessive insecure boyfriend, but controling as, everything has to be my way-like if we got in an argument over something
{I have a nagging suspicion that alot of guys that have never had serious relationships or girlfriends may make a lot of mistakes-fearing that they will be 'AFC' or whatever non-sense,and that the girl will leave or cheat}.
You’ve only interacted with two women intimately. I have more experience within the last two years than you the five. Me throwing out the garbage is based on my ability to instinct from past experience. Hell I was an AFC with this one girl, who by the way was LT, when it got bad at the end I wouldn’t e surprised if some dude was plowing her as she was drifting away from me. I wouldn’t be surprised. I am the sum of my existence. I can only speak from my experience and pass it on to a guy in need.
Oh really?
and how would you know that exactly? because i have had only 2 LTRs you assume i was twidling my thumbs and
crying over them? give me a break and don't think soo highly of yourself. I have had plenty of experiances with woman and i know
enough that alot of this PUA type stuff WILL get your foot in the
door in terms of sex and the initial attraction phases of a short-term relationship...but in the long run , these tactics don't work forever. Intitial attraction is nothing like an emotional attatchment that has been built up through the years of trial and effort,good and bad times, thick and thin. Relationships last because of the
effort that both parties contribute,and fail when they don't.
{By holding back and not fully letting yourself go, it will totally limit your satisfation and enjoyment of the entire relationship.}
A wise man once said in a Gatorade commercial, “It’s not all about starting, it’s about finishing.” This was Michael Jordan. Never give out everything you had in the first weeks of dating. Hold something back for yourself. If it ends, you still have something left. If it doesn’t she continue to be fascinated with her findings.
geez, holding back as in forcing yourself to
hold things back that you really want to share with her..
or things you want to experiance with her but are too afraid to
in fear of looking like a chump for doing it..
{I can't help but laugh in my mind that there are guys 'pulling back' when they really want to talk about things with their girlfriend or wanting to buy flowers to suprise her
but feel like a chump for doing it-give me a break!}
talk about things like when she says shes 'okay' when theres
clearly something wrong, when she says leave me alone but really means 'hold me'...
There’s no need. This board provides enough feedback for the fellas if needed. Besides women do it all the time, consulting with GF instead talking their Man, about the issue. And usually it’s petty.
{anyways, for all the guys that has never been in a serious relationship before..you're in for a really really really big suprise.Because even if you CAN get the beautyfull girl , will you know what to do when it comes to keeping a quality woman and maintaining the romance and attraction of a long term relationship?}
No, but the confidence he displayed can go along ways. Besides always better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all.
{Are you gonna trust yourself to make the right descision?}
Who knows? You live and learn. It may take years before you truly see an outcome of a choice that was made years before.
{And if so , don't you think it's kinda SAD that you have to put on such an act with someone you love soo dearly? when she is genuine and real and you are..
TING.}
You’re a fool if you think the women that you’ve been with never acted. Ha. Does she really like how you play Playstation or Xbox when she comes over. Or how she likes your boy that continuously calls women “chicks” and “broads” or my favorite “stunts”. LOL!
oh give me a break with the mumbo jumbo about how
all girls are attracted to those ridiculous arch-types...
and girls do 'act' but it's not like it's a 24/7 deal with i
suspect most guys are in hopes of meeting woman.
mr.'alpha' when they're really mr.dorkos inside.
{Don't be fooled that you have to be some arrogant jerk off in order to attract, meet and keep a spectacular girl- if thats who you naturally are-fantastic.}
Why not? Most of these probably couldn’t get a word off before this girl acted cute. Maybe a good Offense is a good Defense after all?..
great.. more card-board cut out 'alpha' drones..
whats worse then an AFC? an afc acting like he's alpha..
After all, you did attract her with the little tricks and gimmicks and 'acting' like an 'alpha' , right? What's her reaction gonna be when and if you reveil the
real you? Whatever it may be? however dorky, nerdy, whatever quirks about you it may be? whatever that makes you uniqueand makes you different from every tom,steve and harry out there?
You don’t get it. These tactics are no different than those used by females to get their man. If I can get you to keep and open mind, after a sales pitch, I can skillfully sell you the product. Since I know the product well, it will increase my chances. No one here says they follow the procedures word for word. You can’t. They can’t. Sometimes in game speed, they might forget a thing or two. But if a guy can get a girl too be open minded, as the commercial says, “Impossible is Nothing.”
i totally understand..but at some point, that persona, those
walls, it all has to come down eventually- in order to be the genuine person you are and be able to be with the girl you love completly.No not by spilling your guts to her or worshiping her,geez..i feel like everythig i say gets twisted up into some 'afc' whatever somehow!!
down right before i could even reply..
NOT AN ENDING, ONLY A BEGINNING
-originally posted by Rollo-
Please permit me too respond…
{Please do NOT be fooled that all it takes is to use 'power plays' or tactics (high value/status)and thats all it takes to maintain a healthy relationship.}
Maybe not, but ask Mr. Tomassi if whether it is more important to win a battle or the war. Looking at marriages from many peers older and younger, all I hear is how the Mrs. Got over on me this that and the other. Now if they started disagreeing with wives, is this grounds for divorce? More than likely not. If you say no to your boss, will he or she fire you? It depends. If so, your azz was already on thin ice. Playing power plays allow components remind the other components the essence of their true value in their relationship.
it's a component in a relationship, but theres much more in
order to making it work...
{Not only til i realized that mentality creates resentment and alot of anger in the relationship. Is this a girl that you love and respect? or is this just 'another girl'.
This dosen't mean dropping your nutts and permanently gluing you lips to a girls a$$, what it means is that there must be compromise...sometimes ALOT of it.}
You know..this is where you start to sound like some wounded female trying wonder why her tactics caused some guy to pull her card. In effect leaving her where she stood. All because she thought she was cute. You also sound like you loose a lot of these compromising battles, because you probably give in more than she does. Can’t you see this is a revolutionary site? It challenges societies’ ideas of women should be in a age of Oprah and high rates of divorce. I never heard of a woman leaving a man for a wimp, who can’t lay pipe. Think about it. Think of how many guys lost out to older guys who had their stuff together in terms of women. If you can’t understand this then my assumption is correct. Furthermore, respect is something you have to earn, still. Hell, you’ve been in two LT relationships your whole life. Did you love any of these women? I bet you did. Maybe. Did you respect your partner with equal value? I want to hear this. Did you ever go to dinner and look over at some woman who had bigger breast and a rounder biscuit than your mate? Did you look without feeling guilty?
That was my problem in the past though..i ALWAYS had to
have the power in the relationship and seldom did i compromise or really listen to her needs entirly.It really was my way or no way and that's where it hurt things the most. I had my sh*t together and i took care of buisness, but there wasn't really a balance and i was brutish at times..and that only made things
worse.I respected her, but i still kinda looked down on her in a way...
{Understanding, emotional/mental support ,patience,being mature and being a MAN about things. }
This is a true statement. Actually, not true. Most men aren’t these things. I have too ask if these things are important, not to be funny, why have you only been in long term relationships? If you know the key, why not be married by the age of 22? I know why it’s not a choice you wanted to make. It’s about choices. And freedom to make choices without someone pressuring them into making a potential mistake.
why just two? because i decided that after the last one and
how hurt i was by it and how stubborn and set in my ways i can be, i must change things first in order to have better relationships..where most suffer from having no control, i suffered from wanting too much control over things.Being the dominate part and always insisting on things my way. Sure, it's an
alpha trait or whatever you guys wanna call it, but it's only
gotten me nothing but trouble in the past.Not controling as
possessive insecure boyfriend, but controling as, everything has to be my way-like if we got in an argument over something
{I have a nagging suspicion that alot of guys that have never had serious relationships or girlfriends may make a lot of mistakes-fearing that they will be 'AFC' or whatever non-sense,and that the girl will leave or cheat}.
You’ve only interacted with two women intimately. I have more experience within the last two years than you the five. Me throwing out the garbage is based on my ability to instinct from past experience. Hell I was an AFC with this one girl, who by the way was LT, when it got bad at the end I wouldn’t e surprised if some dude was plowing her as she was drifting away from me. I wouldn’t be surprised. I am the sum of my existence. I can only speak from my experience and pass it on to a guy in need.
Oh really?
and how would you know that exactly? because i have had only 2 LTRs you assume i was twidling my thumbs and
crying over them? give me a break and don't think soo highly of yourself. I have had plenty of experiances with woman and i know
enough that alot of this PUA type stuff WILL get your foot in the
door in terms of sex and the initial attraction phases of a short-term relationship...but in the long run , these tactics don't work forever. Intitial attraction is nothing like an emotional attatchment that has been built up through the years of trial and effort,good and bad times, thick and thin. Relationships last because of the
effort that both parties contribute,and fail when they don't.
{By holding back and not fully letting yourself go, it will totally limit your satisfation and enjoyment of the entire relationship.}
A wise man once said in a Gatorade commercial, “It’s not all about starting, it’s about finishing.” This was Michael Jordan. Never give out everything you had in the first weeks of dating. Hold something back for yourself. If it ends, you still have something left. If it doesn’t she continue to be fascinated with her findings.
geez, holding back as in forcing yourself to
hold things back that you really want to share with her..
or things you want to experiance with her but are too afraid to
in fear of looking like a chump for doing it..
{I can't help but laugh in my mind that there are guys 'pulling back' when they really want to talk about things with their girlfriend or wanting to buy flowers to suprise her
but feel like a chump for doing it-give me a break!}
talk about things like when she says shes 'okay' when theres
clearly something wrong, when she says leave me alone but really means 'hold me'...
There’s no need. This board provides enough feedback for the fellas if needed. Besides women do it all the time, consulting with GF instead talking their Man, about the issue. And usually it’s petty.
{anyways, for all the guys that has never been in a serious relationship before..you're in for a really really really big suprise.Because even if you CAN get the beautyfull girl , will you know what to do when it comes to keeping a quality woman and maintaining the romance and attraction of a long term relationship?}
No, but the confidence he displayed can go along ways. Besides always better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all.
{Are you gonna trust yourself to make the right descision?}
Who knows? You live and learn. It may take years before you truly see an outcome of a choice that was made years before.
{And if so , don't you think it's kinda SAD that you have to put on such an act with someone you love soo dearly? when she is genuine and real and you are..
TING.}
You’re a fool if you think the women that you’ve been with never acted. Ha. Does she really like how you play Playstation or Xbox when she comes over. Or how she likes your boy that continuously calls women “chicks” and “broads” or my favorite “stunts”. LOL!
oh give me a break with the mumbo jumbo about how
all girls are attracted to those ridiculous arch-types...
and girls do 'act' but it's not like it's a 24/7 deal with i
suspect most guys are in hopes of meeting woman.
mr.'alpha' when they're really mr.dorkos inside.
{Don't be fooled that you have to be some arrogant jerk off in order to attract, meet and keep a spectacular girl- if thats who you naturally are-fantastic.}
Why not? Most of these probably couldn’t get a word off before this girl acted cute. Maybe a good Offense is a good Defense after all?..
great.. more card-board cut out 'alpha' drones..
whats worse then an AFC? an afc acting like he's alpha..
After all, you did attract her with the little tricks and gimmicks and 'acting' like an 'alpha' , right? What's her reaction gonna be when and if you reveil the
real you? Whatever it may be? however dorky, nerdy, whatever quirks about you it may be? whatever that makes you uniqueand makes you different from every tom,steve and harry out there?
You don’t get it. These tactics are no different than those used by females to get their man. If I can get you to keep and open mind, after a sales pitch, I can skillfully sell you the product. Since I know the product well, it will increase my chances. No one here says they follow the procedures word for word. You can’t. They can’t. Sometimes in game speed, they might forget a thing or two. But if a guy can get a girl too be open minded, as the commercial says, “Impossible is Nothing.”
i totally understand..but at some point, that persona, those
walls, it all has to come down eventually- in order to be the genuine person you are and be able to be with the girl you love completly.No not by spilling your guts to her or worshiping her,geez..i feel like everythig i say gets twisted up into some 'afc' whatever somehow!!
agree.
